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RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Dragonstrike - 10-15-2017

So, looking at Black Hole Eclipse got me wondering...can Gardevoir use it?

Turns out, it CAN.

But the only moves it can learn that would allow it to are Fling and Thief. So it would have some pretty bad damage output compared to other Z-moves. Ironically, Gallade would be a much better user of it (though there's still better ones for it to use, obviously)


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Lord Windos - 10-15-2017

I would say that the Z-Crystal would buff Beat Up AFTER its base power is increased based on how many allies join in. So if the maximum number came to assist in the execution of the move, then following the first set of rules it would end up doing STR + 12 Damage , or STR + 6 Base Damage + 3 + Half Damage Dice Rolled Out . If you spend a Z Crystal on a move, I want it to be pretty damn powerful to make up for the fact that it can only be used once per Encounter!

Mate, if something is strong enough to survive THAT level of firepower, then nothing sort of either Arceas casting JUDGEMENT on them or all the Legends dogpiling on them will defeat them. That, or some controvied plot device that will appear and be used by the True Heroes of that Scenario....
"Or me. Can't forget about the power that I hold, can't you Windos? Or maybe you just don't want to think about it, hmm? HeheheHA!"
1/4 of the Paradoxical Might of Creation Used For Destruction is still just that: Overkill the likes of which no mortal has seen. Or survived seeing it, at any rate. Diging several Kilometers under the surface of the earth or Flying like your life depended on it several Kilometers into the upper stratosphere, or phasing into another dimension MIGHT spare you. Might....

Fell Stinger will have + 2 Base Power, and will grant the user + 3 Strength if they finish off an opponent with it.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Dragonstrike - 10-15-2017

(10-15-2017, 10:55 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: I would say that the Z-Crystal would buff Beat Up AFTER its base power is increased based on how many allies join in. So if the maximum number came to assist in the execution of the move, then following the first set of rules it would end up doing STR + 12 Damage , or STR + 6 Base Damage + 3 + Half Damage Dice Rolled Out . If you spend a Z Crystal on a move, I want it to be pretty damn powerful to make up for the fact that it can only be used once per Encounter!

Mate, if something is strong enough to survive THAT level of firepower, then nothing sort of either Arceas casting JUDGEMENT on them or all the Legends dogpiling on them will defeat them. That, or some controvied plot device that will appear and be used by the True Heroes of that Scenario....
"Or me. Can't forget about the power that I hold, can't you Windos? Or maybe you just don't want to think about it, hmm? HeheheHA!"
1/4 of the Paradoxical Might of Creation Used For Destruction is still just that: Overkill the likes of which no mortal has seen. Or survived seeing it, at any rate. Diging several Kilometers under the surface of the earth or Flying like your life depended on it several Kilometers into the upper stratosphere, or phasing into another dimension MIGHT spare you. Might....

Hmmm...alright then.  Looks like Reiner is definitely grabbing that Darkinium Z since he'd probably know just how dang ridiculous that could be.  Pokerole Beat Up certainly is a little weird in that it does all the damage at once instead of with multiple, individual hits like in the games, so I guess another exception here makes sense.  And I guess that would also mean a Z-Assurance would work off of a 5 BP attack in that case, yes?  Not nearly as strong, but you don't have to use 4 actions total to use the nuke.  Just need your target to be at half HP.  Z-Taunt and Z-Snatch could be fun too...or even Z-Embargo. Theft the likes of which has never been seen before, yo...

Yeah, I wouldn't expect anything to take a Z-move THAT strong under most any circumstances.  But what about 'normal' Z-moves?  1/4 damage could matter a lot then, right?


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Lord Windos - 10-15-2017

(10-15-2017, 11:04 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: Yeah, I wouldn't expect anything to take a Z-move THAT strong under most any circumstances.  But what about 'normal' Z-moves?  1/4 damage could matter a lot then, right?

If target uses Protect style moves, then the bonus damage of the Z-Move is ignored entirely, and its treated as if the target is only suffering from the regular damage of the move (I.E: STR + Base). They'll still take damage, but nowhere near as much if they just decided to take the move on the chin!

Also, when Garvedour makes a black hole, they don't use a Z-Move to do so: they actually make a mini-Black Hole. If they so happened to use Black Hole Eclipse in synch with summoning the real thing, they end up creating a bigger, badder, and self sustaining Black Hole. Eventually it'll go away, but not without compacting/devouring/erasing a LARGE area, the size of which can scale upwards to City Sized if the Garvedour was particularly powerful, Buffed, and motivated. As such, owning a Darkium Z and Garvedour together at the same time is ILLEGAL NO MATTER WHAT, much less equipping one. All Trainers are informed of this fact, and if they break the law, both them and their Pokémon are promptly captured and executed. The Leagues are not tolerate in this instant, mate.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Dragonstrike - 10-15-2017

(10-15-2017, 11:18 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: If target uses Protect style moves, then the bonus damage of the Z-Move is ignored entirely, and its treated as if the target is only suffering from the regular damage of the move (I.E: STR + Base). They'll still take damage, but nowhere near as much if they just decided to take the move on the chin!

Also, when Garvedour makes a black hole, they don't use a Z-Move to do so: they actually make a mini-Black Hole. If they so happened to use Black Hole Eclipse in synch with summoning the real thing, they end up creating a bigger, badder, and self sustaining Black Hole. Eventually it'll go away, but not without compacting/devouring/erasing a LARGE area, the size of which can scale upwards to City Sized if the Garvedour was particularly powerful, Buffed, and motivated. As such, owning a Darkium Z and Garvedour together at the same time is ILLEGAL no matter what, much less equipping one, and all Trainers are informed of this fact. If they break the law, they both they and their Pokémon are promptly captured and executed.

Sounds like a reasonable nerf if a Shield move is used at the right time.

Yeah, the 'dex entry predated the actual attack and all that.  Still, I found it funny that Gardevoir can actually create a Black Hole in the games as of Sun and Moon, finally showing that the Pokedex entry wasn't lying Tongue

Good thing Megas and Primals can't use Z-moves, period, right?  Or Rayquaza would be having a LOT of fun in Anything Goes...


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Lord Windos - 10-15-2017

(10-15-2017, 11:24 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: Sounds like a reasonable nerf if a Shield move is used at the right time.

Yeah, the 'dex entry predated the actual attack and all that.  Still, I found it funny that Gardevoir can actually create a Black Hole in the games as of Sun and Moon, finally showing that the Pokedex entry wasn't lying Tongue

Good thing Megas and Primals can't use Z-moves, period, right?  Or Rayquaza would be having a LOT of fun in Anything Goes...

If I were Gamefreak, I'd actually make that a Special Z Move for Garvedour, with the appropreiately High BP + Effect and resulting in them Fainting upon using it. Pretty neat, right?

Raquaza can in my campaign, but if you ever get the opportunity to see them use it, chances are you dun fucked up something FIERCE.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Dragonstrike - 10-15-2017

Dang it...that mysterious man has some incredible 4th wall breaking powers if he can invade Reiner's character sheet of all things...it's messing up my formatting for the character notes!  Grrrr...now I have to redo all the bolding and italicizing AGAIN...


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Lord Windos - 10-16-2017

Annoucement: I will not be able to update my Game Thread at all OR participate in Iron's Game Thread Monday, due to school related work. I'll check in every now and then, but I'm going to be offline for the most part.

With that said, its time for me to head to bed. See you guys Tuesday or later!


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Dragonstrike - 10-16-2017

Oh dang.  Must be really, really busy then.  Well, good thing you left some autoing instructions for Ventus and there's no need for him to interact with Nathan for the next in-game day for Skull Ruins...

...though I do wonder if Reiner is going to start noticing his world's kinda frozen in time...I might have to explain things a little if he does...


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Dragonstrike - 10-16-2017

Okay, so I just looked up Dresden Files and Mab as recommended...and now I see why Ninetales was the one to sacrifice herself to save Mina...

You had this all planned out, didn't you, Windos?