(07-16-2018, 09:31 PM)Spiritmon Wrote:

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Hmm there is one I been thinking: What if, Baltazar and Airmid use Wide Guard? Sure, Wide Guard its not so much as Protect, but it is a spread move, and could potential Shield us against a swarm of attacks. I know stats move dont stack to each other (like Bulk Up+Infuriate), but Wide Guard dont raise status. Its only a temporally shield to protect against certain moves. Its a protect against 3 Dice Damage. If two get activadaded = 6 Damage Negated. I call this combo as Great Shield.

Even if not permitted to be use it, maybe they could be use as a shield wave. Per example: Airmid use Wide Guard and protect us against nuc attacks. She cant do anything anymore since she already have use her action to make the Wide Guard and she target to a attack. But Baltazar use Wide Guard too and protect her from possible dangerous damage. That way, we can make a barrage of Shields one after other. I call this combo as Sparta Wall (Since Sparthans have a strategy to make a wall of shields to protect each other companion and use the lance to kill any fool who try to break that formation).

This could open a vast possibilities of attack and defense. If I recall, Weavile have a multi-attack move I dont recall the name now. Thats make him a vulnerable target to attack since its a all or nothing attack. With the combination of Double Wide Guard, Weavile would be protect from bigger attacks, and make him stay alive. I call this strategy Ice Age Wall. 

Another combination I been thinking: Wide Guard (Baltazar) + Double Helping Hand (Airmid and Poe) + Draco Meteor (Kingdra). Draco Meteor have the side effect of reduce strengh of the user, but if we could counter attack that disavatange with a move raise strengh and accuracy, that could counter at least a little the reducing strengh, and make Draco Meteor even hit more hard to cause critical hits. And Wide would serve as a protection to Airmid and Poe, even more for Poe since he have Reaper Cloth who already offer a defense. I call this strategy the Shooting Star Fall.

Anyway, there is a plenty of strategies to use it. Any confirmation if Wide Guard can stack with each other to protect against more heavy damage or not @Lord Windos?

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(07-16-2018, 09:48 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:

(07-16-2018, 09:31 PM)Spiritmon Wrote:

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Hmm there is one I been thinking: What if, Baltazar and Airmid use Wide Guard? Sure, Wide Guard its not so much as Protect, but it is a spread move, and could potential Shield us against a swarm of attacks. I know stats move dont stack to each other (like Bulk Up+Infuriate), but Wide Guard dont raise status. Its only a temporally shield to protect against certain moves. Its a protect against 3 Dice Damage. If two get activadaded = 6 Damage Negated. I call this combo as Great Shield.

Even if not permitted to be use it, maybe they could be use as a shield wave. Per example: Airmid use Wide Guard and protect us against nuc attacks. She cant do anything anymore since she already have use her action to make the Wide Guard and she target to a attack. But Baltazar use Wide Guard too and protect her from possible dangerous damage. That way, we can make a barrage of Shields one after other. I call this combo as Sparta Wall (Since Sparthans have a strategy to make a wall of shields to protect each other companion and use the lance to kill any fool who try to break that formation).

This could open a vast possibilities of attack and defense. If I recall, Weavile have a multi-attack move I dont recall the name now. Thats make him a vulnerable target to attack since its a all or nothing attack. With the combination of Double Wide Guard, Weavile would be protect from bigger attacks, and make him stay alive. I call this strategy Ice Age Wall. 

Another combination I been thinking: Wide Guard (Baltazar) + Double Helping Hand (Airmid and Poe) + Draco Meteor (Kingdra). Draco Meteor have the side effect of reduce strengh of the user, but if we could counter attack that disavatange with a move raise strengh and accuracy, that could counter at least a little the reducing strengh, and make Draco Meteor even hit more hard to cause critical hits. And Wide would serve as a protection to Airmid and Poe, even more for Poe since he have Reaper Cloth who already offer a defense. I call this strategy the Shooting Star Fall.

Anyway, there is a plenty of strategies to use it. Any confirmation if Wide Guard can stack with each other to protect against more heavy damage or not @Lord Windos?

I can also say that the book's FAQs says that Shield moves won't stack with each other.

Staggering Wide Guards isn't a bad idea, though.

Weavile's 'multi-hit' attack is Beat Up.  Works a little differently in pokerole.  He attacks with a 2 power move, and up to 3 others can help him with it, adding 2 more damage dice per helper.  The catch is it costs an action to help, so it's difficult to pull off.  Great for doing large damage if the helpers have nothing better to do with those actions or are moving later in the initiative order than the Beat Up user, though.

Weavile's also a Dark type, however, so not sending him out would be preferred, just like with Raijin.

If Poe's out, he needs to absolutely not be in any real danger, or Ridia will throw a fit.  Wide Guard could definitely help with that, though.  And he can do more than use HH.  Charm, Fake Tears, Tail Whip, and Growl are all extra potent debuffing moves on him.

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(07-16-2018, 10:08 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: If the Corebooks says no shield stacking, then that is a no go. Sorry mates!

Yeap, if Poe is used at ALL during the NRF while Ridia is out, she'll definitely starting raging at whomever was the fool to suggest summoning him. If used alone, he's liable to be the first targets in a battle royale due to how weak he is, and even if not he's going to be constantly terrified in the creepy lab full of horrid monsters. Well, unless you Evolve him into a Nucleon, but I doubt Reiner wants to do that to the poor fellow since it will make them even MORE fragile. Ack!

(07-16-2018, 10:11 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Well, the Beat Up could be use maybe in another kind of battle without the Nuclear thing mission.

And maybe we could use Yang to spam Twister to cause damage to many foes at the same time, and staggering with Shields for better protection.

Debuffing could help quite a lot too. He can learn Wish too if I recall, so maybe using that combination could help too. Together, Airmid and Poe can act together as powerfull supports for both of us. The meeting with Nellygator indeed was great reward to help it. Get a Cleric was my best decision ever.

(07-16-2018, 10:15 PM)Spiritmon Wrote:

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(07-16-2018, 10:08 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: If the Corebooks says no shield stacking, then that is a no go. Sorry mates!

Yeap, if Poe is used at ALL during the NRF while Ridia is out, she'll definitely starting raging at whomever was the fool to suggest summoning him. If used alone, he's liable to be the first targets in a battle royale due to how weak he is, and even if not he's going to be constantly terrified in the creepy lab full of horrid monsters. Well, unless you Evolve him into a Nucleon, but I doubt Reiner wants to do that to the poor fellow since it will make them even MORE fragile. Ack!

Even if Reiner would ask to Arial to shoot Nuclear Laser Beams in the eevee, Arial would problably refuse. Because he dont have the courage to hurt or corrupt the so damn cute Eevee. Arial maybe done some things he is dont have proud of it, but my good, corrupt such cute thing it would drag his soul to the most deepest hell.

(07-16-2018, 10:36 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Now that I think of it, I could prevents of receiving to much damage from that explosion if I have change to Airmid, Baltazar, or both and have spam Wide Guard to protect us from the effects of the Explosion. I feel a idiot right now...