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RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Dragonstrike - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 04:37 PM)Spiritmon Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 04:16 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: ...yup, as I said, need some careful thought for yet another messy situation...*sigh*...

If is permitted for me to input something. Why don't you menace her? Say something like with a single snap of fingers, Mew can de-resurect her and make her soul return to the limbo? If Alexandria don't come by good, treat her might do the thing. Or perhaps a more careful approach like her be ungrateful since Reiner sacrifice his Tauros to save her life. Use psychology against her my friend.

...well yes, those are options too, but not necessarily ones I want to use right this moment...

You're not wrong about the psychology thing, though.  That's the whole idea behind this conversation, after all.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Spiritmon - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 04:45 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 04:37 PM)Spiritmon Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 04:16 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: ...yup, as I said, need some careful thought for yet another messy situation...*sigh*...

If is permitted for me to input something. Why don't you menace her? Say something like with a single snap of fingers, Mew can de-resurect her and make her soul return to the limbo? If Alexandria don't come by good, treat her might do the thing. Or perhaps a more careful approach like her be ungrateful since Reiner sacrifice his Tauros to save her life. Use psychology against her my friend.

...well yes, those are options too, but not necessarily ones I want to use right this moment...

You're not wrong about the psychology thing, though.  That's the whole idea behind this conversation, after all.

Well, we are Rockets so do evil is what we can do.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Dragonstrike - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 05:02 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Well, we are Rockets so do evil is what we can do.

That's a fairly general statement/assumption you're making there.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Spiritmon - 09-06-2018

(09-06-2018, 05:18 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 05:02 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Well, we are Rockets so do evil is what we can do.

That's a fairly general statement/assumption you're making there.

We work under the law, break rules, and we work with a guy who is leader of a criminal organization. If this do not make us villains, then it's something close.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Spiritmon - 09-06-2018

Another excuse @Dragonstrike would be this: If she wants to evacuate, she wil have to do it alone, since we don't have to much to return to get her out of this place. And either way the path is filled with Nucmons. With us, she have a higher chance of survive. Any choice she makes she will have to face Nuclear Pokemons. Without any steel type, and all alone herself.

That's might be enough to change her about "Why should I help you" thing. Because Reiner save her, and with him and his commarads she have a higher chance of survive.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Lord Windos - 09-07-2018

(09-06-2018, 06:34 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Another excuse @Dragonstrike would be this: If she wants to evacuate, she wil have to do it alone, since we don't have to much to return to get her out of this place. And either way the path is filled with Nucmons. With us, she have a higher chance of survive. Any choice she makes she will have to face Nuclear Pokemons. Without any steel type, and all alone herself.

That's might be enough to change her about "Why should I help you" thing. Because Reiner save her, and with him and his commarads she have a higher chance of survive.

I'm not one to give away things, but threatening or overtly coersing Alexandria will have its own set of consequences down the line, regardless of whether or not she would agree to act as combination guide/expert for the NRF. I'll also tell you right now that any case of abandoning her would instantly fail, though, as Mew would be.....displeased with that option to veto it, given the significant energy and resources that goes into reviving someone from the dead. 

For now, that's all I'm saying on this help-wise, unless Dragonstrike is having trouble coming up with a good enough argument/solution to her counter proposal (in which case, PM me for hints, mate!). I don't want my game stall on chara. I made to explicitly help out the party do the opposite, after all.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Lord Windos - 09-07-2018

(09-06-2018, 05:24 PM)Spiritmon Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 05:18 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:
(09-06-2018, 05:02 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Well, we are Rockets so do evil is what we can do.

That's a fairly general statement/assumption you're making there.

We work under the law, break rules, and we work with a guy who is leader of a criminal organization. If this do not make us villains, then it's something close.

Spiritmon has a point, and a fairly strong one at that. Reiner's has done some no doubt nefarious stuff in his tenure of TR (he's likely ruined several people lives with his criminal activities, among other things), though the range of how 'bad/evil' his actions/methodology would probably lean more towards the lighter end. Arial's probably close towards Chaotic/Purely Selfish Evil of the range of 'Badness/Evilness of Criminality', but not quite at the extreme due to his strong bonds/Loyalty with his Pokémon and a select few human. His madness makes it harder to qualify just HOW 'evil' he is, though, since at any given moment he could ping pong between being 'normal' , a better person, or worse.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Dragonstrike - 09-07-2018

Sorry about the delays, guys.  Yeah, I'm having a hard time with figuring out what to say/how to phrase it.  I've not really taken a load of time to think about it, tbh, but it is definitely still giving me a little trouble...

...though it is still partially due to irl stuff.  Partially because my sister still has her own problems, partially because I've been really tired lately due to some of my own stuff...honestly, I've had to take more time away from this campaign than I like in order to attempt to de-stress.  It's been a mild success...kinda.  I really don't want it to seriously impede this game's progress, but I've had a lot of difficulty with motivating myself to buckle down and continue it recently...

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Final word from me on the topic of the whole 'criminal thing': I've quoted it before, and I'll quote it again.  (Well, I'm actually paraphrasing it, but the idea is the same)

Quote:Just because you're a bad guy, that does not mean you're a *bad* guy.

- Zangief in Wreck-it-Ralph

Not every 'villian' is/needs to be a complete jerk. It might make a lot of situations more complicated, but it's what I'm trying to stand by as far as Reiner's characterization goes. Whether Reiner is a Rocket or not doesn't have much to do with how he's deciding to handle Alexandria at the current moment.


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Lord Windos - 09-07-2018

(09-07-2018, 08:34 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:

I don't mind them, especially since their are other campaigns and I'm currently starting my last year of college, so take your time figuring it out. No need to rush this dungeon through to completion, as haste would probably be deadly IC or OOC for your charas, and its the very last MANADITORY challenge of this current part of the over arching plot for you mates, so I want you to savor it!

…I was wondering about that, actually. If a hiatus is still needed for you to get everything in your life in order and find peace, then I'm completely willing to put the game on hold again until such time that you feel are ready to handle it and enjoy it simultaneously. Alright?

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Oh, I know that without a doubt, and I am completely approving of it! Being more Anti-Villainous/less Anti-Heroic may make things harder on yourself than need be in a crime campaign, but it also has come with its own benefits and make Reiner a much more nuanced and developed character, so I'm fine with whatever direction you take him in regards to morality! I'll just have to adjust what happens in response accordingly is all, which is not a problem!


RE: [Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels - Spiritmon - 09-07-2018

...Thats indeed serious my friend. Delay as much you need to organize your life friend Dragonstrike. We all needs sometimes a time for us to organize things in life.

About be evil or not, I also fine with that. This in fact make the duality between Reiner and Arial even more interesting. Reiner be a serious guy but with a more sense of justice and good, and Arial be a goofball lover of pokemon but who is indeed a more selfish and chaotic person as a villain and ironically act more as a Rocket. Thats indeed a interesting alchemy between those two characters.