(06-01-2019, 07:46 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:

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Windos, could you please calm down a little about the topic?  Yes, I know this could potentially be really annoying if that change is implemented, particularly for your character since healing is an essential part of your strategy.  I'd like for this to be a reasoned discussion, not what could be mistaken as a shouting match.

I'm sorta leaning towards a per encounter/daily limit, and I have my own concerns about the OG system on paper, particularly knowing this is going to be a longer game.

This is a test game, though, and we also haven't actually tried to put the will point based healing into practice yet.  Which is why I'm still considering it as an option and asking for everyone's opinions.  Your concerns have been noted, as have Spirit's.  IF I use the OG system (and it's a big IF right now), I'll see what I can do to help balance out some of the concerns.  If not, there are systems I can borrow from that have worked perfectly fine previously.

So...@PhantomUnderYourDesk and @Mikaruge108, what are your thoughts on the topic, if you don't mind?

(06-01-2019, 06:41 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:

(06-01-2019, 06:29 PM)Iron Wrote: Pokemon will have their own supply of Will points, right? So it might not be as big a deal as you'd think from being used to Skull Ruins.

They do, yes.  Pokemon don't usually spend Will on things other than healing moves unless they've been taught how to do so on command by a trainer, either.

Of course, Pokemon are probably also a lot more likely to spend Will than a trainer is since healing moves are very powerful.

It's kinda why I want to possibly test it out.  The original system was designed around Will point management, after all.  You can spend it on ignoring Pain, (almost) guaranteeing certain moves/techniques go off, or on healing.  How well it works though might depend on how frequently Will is awarded by the GM, however.  Trainers can spend it on things like throwing pokeballs, making sure their specialty rolls succeed...

Generally, the book recommends rewarding Will for good, in character RP.  Significant milestones that are very encouraging would probably also be a good time to reward it.  And getting a good rest probably also would.

IF I use the original system, I'll probably be more generous with handing out Will to help balance out the more frequent usage of Will Points.



No matter what system is used, though, you still have to be careful with spending Will, as it will still exhaust the user afterwards because they put all of their willpower into making sure that thing they were doing was going to work.

(06-01-2019, 06:54 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: I'd like to know how many Will Points would be gained for a 8 Hour Rest and Skipping Encounters, and if it would be possible to buy Will Items at Stores (Even if they're expensive at first) or farm them on the run (Growing Leppa Berries in Portable Pots like in Heart Gold/Soul Silver springs to mind) before I'm willing to consider supporting the Core Book's original rules on Healing. That, and Draining/Ability Healing is still to be left alone. 

I know I'm being stubborn and inflexible, but this is a fairly important/crucial topic for me and the other players, as THIS right here could either make or break our run through your campaign, depending on the situation.

(06-01-2019, 07:33 PM)Mikaruge108 Wrote: Looks like I weren't the only one to have a Gym leader as the character's friend (...)

Possible Spoiler Alert!

My chara can be counted as a Gym Trainer, and he adopted some traits of his boss. Like a bad temper when annoyed.

(06-01-2019, 07:46 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: So...@Phantom and @Mika, what are your thoughts on the topic, if you don't mind?

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(06-01-2019, 07:46 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:

(06-01-2019, 06:54 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: I'd like to know how many Will Points would be gained for a 8 Hour Rest and Skipping Encounters, and if it would be possible to buy Will Items at Stores (Even if they're expensive at first) or farm them on the run (Growing Leppa Berries in Portable Pots like in Heart Gold/Soul Silver springs to mind) before I'm willing to consider supporting the Core Book's original rules on Healing. That, and Draining/Ability Healing is still to be left alone. 

I know I'm being stubborn and inflexible, but this is a fairly important/crucial topic for me and the other players, as THIS right here could either make or break our run through your campaign, depending on the situation.

Windos, could you please calm down a little about the topic?  Yes, I know this could potentially be really annoying if that change is implemented, particularly for your character since healing is an essential part of your strategy.  I'd like for this to be a reasoned discussion, not what could be mistaken as a shouting match.

I'm sorta leaning towards a per encounter/daily limit, and I have my own concerns about the OG system on paper, particularly knowing this is going to be a longer game.

This is a test game, though, and we also haven't actually tried to put the will point based healing into practice yet.  Which is why I'm still considering it as an option and asking for everyone's opinions.  Your concerns have been noted, as have Spirit's.  IF I use the OG system (and it's a big IF right now), I'll see what I can do to help balance out some of the concerns.  If not, there are systems I can borrow from that have worked perfectly fine previously.

So...@Phantom and @Mika, what are your thoughts on the topic, if you don't mind?

(06-02-2019, 04:35 AM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote:

(06-01-2019, 07:46 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: So...@Phantom and @Mika, what are your thoughts on the topic, if you don't mind?

Uh, I actually don't have an opinion in that case, some testing and trying out along the way will probably encourange one.
EDIT: I'm wondering whether this whole thing affects Heal Bell as well as this is an important move within my party, but I guess not as it uses a normal Accu Roll using Stats and not Will.

(06-02-2019, 05:30 AM)Spiritmon Wrote: A question I have about Will Points. Each time we or our Pokemon gain Will Point, it will stack or there will be a limit a Pokemon/Human have will points? And if no, if the the Pokemon has original 5 Will Points, gain 1 for a certain action and then spend for a healing action, next day in 8 hours will he restored it?

(06-02-2019, 09:20 AM)Mikaruge108 Wrote: Just so I have the Will-based healing right, it's number of times ya can heal in a given period, using will to do the healing move?
Like Phantom said, I'd rather see it in action before fully deciding on it.

Quote:So, should we test out the Will point healing for now, everyone, or leave it be?

(06-02-2019, 09:48 AM)Dragonstrike Wrote: So, should we test out the Will point healing for now, everyone, or leave it be?

I'll give those with 6 or less Will some bonus points and Rowan will include some Will point restoring items in the starting supplies he's purchasing if we do.  In that event, I'll also make natural Will recovery a daily thing (which might be more effective for characters with lower Will scores) and also give out Will points as a reward for various other things at my discretion.