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Team for Uranium (competitive) - Cataclyptic - 09-24-2016

EDIT @ 10/19/16: I guess people are still payng attention to this thread. I've updated my team, but not on here. Later today I'll update my team on here to reflect what changed while you all weren't looking.

Hey all, I'm a long time competitive battler but I do appreciate feedback, so I'd like to post my team here and see what you all think. My team is based around my favorite pokemon, Yatagaryu, as a Bulky Offense type team. 



[Image: latest?cb=20160816030848&format=webp] @Life orb
Timid, 252SP, 252SA, 4HP
- Dragon pulse 
- Thunder
- Focus Blast
- Draco Meteor

[Image: latest?cb=20160816223551&format=webp] @ leftovers 
Impish, 248hp, 252SD, 8DF
- Stealth Rock
- Subduction
- Metal Cruncher
- Knock Off

[Image: latest?cb=20160816032725&format=webp]@ Syrentidite
Swift Swim --> Pixilate
Calm, 252 HP, 252 DF, 4 SD
- Hyper Voice
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Sleep Talk


[Image: latest?cb=20160816054856&format=webp] @ Leftovers
Impish, 252 HP, 252 DF, 4 SD
- Sticky Web
- Heal Order
- Thunder Wave
- U Turn

[Image: latest?cb=20160812152051&format=webp] @ Choice Scarf
Disenchant
Adamant, 252 AT, 252 SP, 4 DF
- Flare Blitz
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Infernal Blade

[Image: latest?cb=20160812033707&format=webp] @ Life Orb
Jolly, 252 AT, 252 SP, 4HP
- Taunt
- Shadow Claw
- Drain Punch
- Swords Dance



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Team Explanation:


First we have Yatagaryu, my favorite pokemon in the game. I'm going with a Wallbreaker set as with Draco Metor, Thunder and Focus Blast with Life Orb it can OHKO nearly the entire game. Its ability is amazing, letting me nix focus sashes and do chip damage, not to mention getting Thunder to 100% accuracy and increasing its power by 50%, allowing my dragon to spam a 247 base power move. This set lets me clear important 


Lanthan is another very important pokemon for defensive manuevering. It has maxed special defenses for now to take care of special hits, and the only reason it has an Impish nature is because I messed up. I'll get it Careful when I start a new game, or maybe I'll switch to a physically defensive spread int he future. This one is helpful because it can counter other Yatagaryu and switch in on Thunderstorm. Stealth Rocks because I'm still a Smogonite, Subduction for massive power despite no attack investment, and the math says it'll kill Archilles and Ingflagetah if they try to switch in.  Knock off for utility and Metal Cruncher to deal with fairies. 


After that is Crocune Mega Syrentide, my primary wincon. Once Yatagaryu and Belliadon have taken care of everything, I'll setup the mermaid and kill everything else with Hyper Voice. Calm Mind + Rest + Sleep Talk makes this mon incredibly hard to take down once its counters have been removed, and since Disenchant Belliadon is the only pokemon who could take a Pixilate Hyper Voice, victory is assured. 

Seikamater is next, due to how useful it is. It sets up my other hazard, Sticky Web, allowing for great speed control. Combined with Thunder Wave and I'll be able to setup more often, or take care of primary threats easier. U turn is there to let me switch in and out easily to my sweepers, especially Belliadon, while Heal Order is there to recover HP so Seikamater can keep spamming U turn and Thunder Wave. 

After that we have choice scarf Belliadon. This thing has a massive attack, and with that speed control I mentioned earlier, Belliadon has the potential to sweep entire teams if played correctly. Knock Off is obvious for its power and utility, as well as Flare Blitz for immediate and raw power. Earthquake is my coverage choice since the entire meta is practically weak to ground, and Infernal Blade is a strong STAB with no recoil that also can surprise fairies. Disenchant is the ability of choice to allow more switching in. 

Finally we have Navighast, whose status is still in question on this team but I think he can work. He has taunt to make him an Anti-lead, as well as Swords Dance in the event of a needed sweep. Shadow Claw and Drain Punch are the STAB moves of choice, since ghost/fighting is great neutral coverage on everything. May replace Shadow Claw with Shadow Sneak. Important is Navighast's Levitate ability, which mitigates my ground weakness. 

Changelog:

- GIVE ME HA LUXELONG
- Yatagaryu has a Wallbreaker set
- Crotide
- + Belliadon and Navighast
- At least sticky web Seikamater is a thing

Hypothetical corner:

Replace Navighast with Coatlith?: It also has Levitate, a great typing and ice weakness isn't a problem. Grass stab can help for sweeping and a NP set with Giga Drain, Dragon Pulse, Earth Power would be awesome in theory. 


RE: Team for Uranium (competitive) - Lord Windos - 09-24-2016

First off, you have a major fire weakness in your ranks. Skek, Garlikid, and Lathan all hate fire with a passion, so M-Archilles or M-Inflagetah will have a merry time with them. No recovery for Syrentide, but that is just me preference, and Lathan might benefit more from Earthquake in the long run. Also, Skek is not exactly the best mon to run, as a lot of things can end up countering it. If you want to slow other teams down, using a Pokémon with Petrify can serve your needs quite well. Chimaconda in particular is a good choice, as you have other 'mon that counter its ground weakness, and it has Poison STABs to kill fairies that try to assault Yatagaryu. Just my two cents...


RE: Team for Uranium (competitive) - Reeveelution - 09-24-2016

(09-24-2016, 02:44 AM)Lord Windos Wrote: First off, you have a major fire weakness in your ranks. Skek, Garlikid, and Lathan all hate fire with a passion, so M-Archilles or M-Inflagetah will have a merry time with them. No recovery for Syrentide, but that is just me preference, and Lathan might benefit more from Earthquake in the long run. Also, Skek is not exactly the best mon to run, as a lot of things can end up countering it. If you want to slow other teams down, using a Pokémon with Petrify can serve your needs quite well. Chimaconda in particular is a good choice, as you have other 'mon that counter its ground weakness, and it has Poison STABs to kill fairies that try to assault Yatagaryu. Just my two cents...

I strongly agree with Lord Windos. Fire Pokemon in this game is extremely prominent, the most notable of these Fire mons are M-Archilles and Inflagetah. both have access to powerful Fire STABs, both are destructively fast. You either need tankier Pokemon that resists Fire Pokemon in your team, or a Choice Scarf Pokemon that can take care of these threats. A common example I often give for these examples respectively are Tubareel (great defensive distribution, has STAB Aqua Jet as well) and Scarf Laissure (Gets Intimidate, or more commonly on a scarfed variant, Moxie).

I meanwhile like Seikamater as a Pokemon, and I wouldn't mind you using one at all. Not so sure where you can get Sticky Web though... I forgot... Anyways, an offensive set I can give you right now that doesnt make use of Sticky Web is Quiver Dance/Thunder/Hydro Pump/Bug Buzz, of which the following set will make it more OP under rain especially wth that elementalist boost, but otherwise a risky coverage move that will kill off persistant Flying Pokemon like Harptera (which can also kill you with its priority Acrobactics, so be careful!) and Hydro Pump for the Rock-Types and Fire Types. If you want a more Utility set, I'd recommend Sticky Web/ Roar/ U-turn/ Filler, of which the filler can range from sooooo many moves, including T-wave, Toxic or Heal Order (similar to Roost), and a laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge varient of coverage moves, such as Ice Beam, SLudge Bomb, Fire Blast, Thundernolt, Focus Blast... too many to name really, but the decision to decide the last filler is up to you.

....Toxic?? Refresh??? On Mega Syrentide???? That has to go. Especially Refresh. Why would you think that is a good idea despite your competitive background is beyond me. What is good however, is stuffs like Calm Mind, Rest, or HP Fire. and if you opt for Rest, you better have Sleep Talk.... If keeping your syrentide alive is a problem, get yourself a cleric. Luxelong and Glavinug are examples that can pull this off, but Luxelong is far more superior due to its bulk and typing. 

I'm also fine with Garlikid, but as I stated before (along with Windos) your team is too frail against fire types. You might need to ditch this in the future. Until you get another pokemon or better garlikid, this one is fine.

I'm okay with Lanthan and Nucleon, though it would be better prefered if you dsitributed EVs in Sp DEF and not DEF. Also, with all these fairies around in this game, metal crusher is far better than toxic. None of your pokemon have protect anyways, and the synergy for toxic stall isnt prominent exactly.... so go with Metal Crusher. Also, keep in mind that explosion is a Physical Move.. I'd rather you have Hyper Beam over Explosion for this.


RE: Team for Uranium (competitive) - Cataclyptic - 09-24-2016

(09-24-2016, 04:56 AM)Reeveelution Wrote:
(09-24-2016, 02:44 AM)Lord Windos Wrote: First off, you have a major fire weakness in your ranks. Skek, Garlikid, and Lathan all hate fire with a passion, so M-Archilles or M-Inflagetah will have a merry time with them. No recovery for Syrentide, but that is just me preference, and Lathan might benefit more from Earthquake in the long run. Also, Skek is not exactly the best mon to run, as a lot of things can end up countering it. If you want to slow other teams down, using a Pokémon with Petrify can serve your needs quite well. Chimaconda in particular is a good choice, as you have other 'mon that counter its ground weakness, and it has Poison STABs to kill fairies that try to assault Yatagaryu. Just my two cents...

I strongly agree with Lord Windos. Fire Pokemon in this game is extremely prominent, the most notable of these Fire mons are M-Archilles and Inflagetah. both have access to powerful Fire STABs, both are destructively fast. You either need tankier Pokemon that resists Fire Pokemon in your team, or a Choice Scarf Pokemon that can take care of these threats. A common example I often give for these examples respectively are Tubareel (great defensive distribution, has STAB Aqua Jet as well) and Scarf Laissure (Gets Intimidate, or more commonly on a scarfed variant, Moxie).

I meanwhile like Seikamater as a Pokemon, and I wouldn't mind you using one at all. Not so sure where you can get Sticky Web though... I forgot... Anyways, an offensive set I can give you right now that doesnt make use of Sticky Web is Quiver Dance/Thunder/Hydro Pump/Bug Buzz, of which the following set will make it more OP under rain especially wth that elementalist boost, but otherwise a risky coverage move that will kill off persistant Flying Pokemon like Harptera (which can also kill you with its priority Acrobactics, so be careful!) and Hydro Pump for the Rock-Types and Fire Types. If you want a more Utility set, I'd recommend Sticky Web/ Roar/ U-turn/ Filler, of which the filler can range from sooooo many moves, including T-wave, Toxic or Heal Order (similar to Roost), and a laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge varient of coverage moves, such as Ice Beam, SLudge Bomb, Fire Blast, Thundernolt, Focus Blast... too many to name really, but the decision to decide the last filler is up to you.

....Toxic?? Refresh??? On Mega Syrentide???? That has to go. Especially Refresh. Why would you think that is a good idea despite your competitive background is beyond me. What is good however, is stuffs like Calm Mind, Rest, or HP Fire. and if you opt for Rest, you better have Sleep Talk.... If keeping your syrentide alive is a problem, get yourself a cleric. Luxelong and Glavinug are examples that can pull this off, but Luxelong is far more superior due to its bulk and typing. 

I'm also fine with Garlikid, but as I stated before (along with Windos) your team is too frail against fire types. You might need to ditch this in the future. Until you get another pokemon or better garlikid, this one is fine.

I'm okay with Lanthan and Nucleon, though it would be better prefered if you dsitributed EVs in Sp DEF and not DEF. Also, with all these fairies around in this game, metal crusher is far better than toxic. None of your pokemon have protect anyways, and the synergy for toxic stall isnt prominent exactly.... so go with Metal Crusher. Also, keep in mind that explosion is a Physical Move.. I'd rather you have Hyper Beam over Explosion for this.

Good advice for the fires. I was hesitant to put another fire counter on my team since Syrentide is bulky enough, but it looks like my prediction was correct and fires truly are a dominant force. I'll work on that... Maybe replace Garlikid with Luxelong.

You're SUPPOSED to get Sticky Web from the ultimate tutor, but a glitch happened so you can't for now, despite the move being readily available... So that.

Mega Syrentide is supposed to be a pivot/ general special attacker, so no calm mind. I was thinking of rest, but I don't know if a rest/ sleep talk set would have worked. If you say it does I might give it a shot if I can't find another cleric.

So there are a lot of fairies... Alright metal cruncher it is. I still want subduction though, because my math says it can OHKO those fire types that threaten meanwhile Earthquake is only about 90% damage.

Explosion > Hyper beam because it still gets atomizate boost, and in the event that I kill something, the next pokemon won't have an opportunity to set up against my nucleon, say quiver dance seikamater like you've suggested. Even if the move is physical it would still do massive damage, much like scarf heatran back in DPP.

All and all, thank you for your critique.


RE: Team for Uranium (competitive) - Reeveelution - 09-24-2016

(09-24-2016, 01:00 PM)Cataclyptic Wrote:
(09-24-2016, 04:56 AM)Reeveelution Wrote:
(09-24-2016, 02:44 AM)Lord Windos Wrote: First off, you have a major fire weakness in your ranks. Skek, Garlikid, and Lathan all hate fire with a passion, so M-Archilles or M-Inflagetah will have a merry time with them. No recovery for Syrentide, but that is just me preference, and Lathan might benefit more from Earthquake in the long run. Also, Skek is not exactly the best mon to run, as a lot of things can end up countering it. If you want to slow other teams down, using a Pokémon with Petrify can serve your needs quite well. Chimaconda in particular is a good choice, as you have other 'mon that counter its ground weakness, and it has Poison STABs to kill fairies that try to assault Yatagaryu. Just my two cents...

I strongly agree with Lord Windos. Fire Pokemon in this game is extremely prominent, the most notable of these Fire mons are M-Archilles and Inflagetah. both have access to powerful Fire STABs, both are destructively fast. You either need tankier Pokemon that resists Fire Pokemon in your team, or a Choice Scarf Pokemon that can take care of these threats. A common example I often give for these examples respectively are Tubareel (great defensive distribution, has STAB Aqua Jet as well) and Scarf Laissure (Gets Intimidate, or more commonly on a scarfed variant, Moxie).

I meanwhile like Seikamater as a Pokemon, and I wouldn't mind you using one at all. Not so sure where you can get Sticky Web though... I forgot... Anyways, an offensive set I can give you right now that doesnt make use of Sticky Web is Quiver Dance/Thunder/Hydro Pump/Bug Buzz, of which the following set will make it more OP under rain especially wth that elementalist boost, but otherwise a risky coverage move that will kill off persistant Flying Pokemon like Harptera (which can also kill you with its priority Acrobactics, so be careful!) and Hydro Pump for the Rock-Types and Fire Types. If you want a more Utility set, I'd recommend Sticky Web/ Roar/ U-turn/ Filler, of which the filler can range from sooooo many moves, including T-wave, Toxic or Heal Order (similar to Roost), and a laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge varient of coverage moves, such as Ice Beam, SLudge Bomb, Fire Blast, Thundernolt, Focus Blast... too many to name really, but the decision to decide the last filler is up to you.

....Toxic?? Refresh??? On Mega Syrentide???? That has to go. Especially Refresh. Why would you think that is a good idea despite your competitive background is beyond me. What is good however, is stuffs like Calm Mind, Rest, or HP Fire. and if you opt for Rest, you better have Sleep Talk.... If keeping your syrentide alive is a problem, get yourself a cleric. Luxelong and Glavinug are examples that can pull this off, but Luxelong is far more superior due to its bulk and typing. 

I'm also fine with Garlikid, but as I stated before (along with Windos) your team is too frail against fire types. You might need to ditch this in the future. Until you get another pokemon or better garlikid, this one is fine.

I'm okay with Lanthan and Nucleon, though it would be better prefered if you dsitributed EVs in Sp DEF and not DEF. Also, with all these fairies around in this game, metal crusher is far better than toxic. None of your pokemon have protect anyways, and the synergy for toxic stall isnt prominent exactly.... so go with Metal Crusher. Also, keep in mind that explosion is a Physical Move.. I'd rather you have Hyper Beam over Explosion for this.

Good advice for the fires. I was hesitant to put another fire counter on my team since Syrentide is bulky enough, but it looks like my prediction was correct and fires truly are a dominant force. I'll work on that... Maybe replace Garlikid with Luxelong.

You're SUPPOSED to get Sticky Web from the ultimate tutor, but a glitch happened so you can't for now, despite the move being readily available... So that.

Mega Syrentide is supposed to be a pivot/ general special attacker, so no calm mind. I was thinking of rest, but I don't know if a rest/ sleep talk set would have worked. If you say it does I might give it a shot if I can't find another cleric.

So there are a lot of fairies... Alright metal cruncher it is. I still want subduction though, because my math says it can OHKO those fire types that threaten meanwhile Earthquake is only about 90% damage.

Explosion > Hyper beam because it still gets atomizate boost, and in the event that I kill something, the next pokemon won't have an opportunity to set up against my nucleon, say quiver dance seikamater like you've suggested. Even if the move is physical it would still do massive damage, much like scarf heatran back in DPP.

All and all, thank you for your critique.

Just keep in mind that Explosion FAINTS nucleon. and your nucleon is modest with 65 base attack. not really worth it imo. Hyper Beam gets Atomizate as well, since Hyper Beam is also a normal type move.


RE: Team for Uranium (competitive) - Cataclyptic - 09-24-2016

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Just keep in mind that Explosion FAINTS nucleon. and your nucleon is modest with 65 base attack. not really worth it imo. Hyper Beam gets Atomizate as well, since Hyper Beam is also a normal type move.
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Oh yeah its attack is that low, isn't it? Forgot for a second... Well I still disagree with hyper beam, since if I use hyper beam my opponent can just switch in say, mega inflagetah, use swords dance, kill my nucleon anyway then proceed to sweep the whole team. I'll have to figure out a fourth moveslot later. Maybe explosion can still be kept though, on the grounds that its still supereffective against the metagame.

PS:I have been persuaded to swap Garlikid with Luxelong! I just realized that its hidden ability, regenerator, is now available thanks to the latest patch, and it has a great clerical movepool, not to mention it'll patch things up pretty nicely, though I might have to nix Syrentide due to similar typings. I'll update the OP once I sort more stuff out.


RE: Team for Uranium (competitive) - Lord Windos - 09-24-2016

Where can you get the regenerator luxi? I want to get one for breeding attempts.


RE: Team for Uranium (competitive) - Cataclyptic - 09-25-2016

(09-24-2016, 08:06 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Where can you get the regenerator luxi? I want to get one for breeding attempts.

Get a female luxi, then breed with an appropriate HA male pokemon. There's a 20% chance to breed the HA Luxi with this method, at least if I'm reading the patch notes correctly. I'll try doing that tomorrow, if you want to try it then get back to me if you succeed and I'll do the same.


RE: Team for Uranium (competitive) - Lord Windos - 09-25-2016

(09-25-2016, 12:17 AM)Cataclyptic Wrote:
(09-24-2016, 08:06 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Where can you get the regenerator luxi? I want to get one for breeding attempts.

Get a female luxi, then breed with an appropriate HA male pokemon. There's a 20% chance to breed the HA Luxi with this method, at least if I'm reading the patch notes correctly. I'll try doing that tomorrow, if you want to try it then get back to me if you succeed and I'll do the same.

I thought that 20% only applied if you breed a HA male with a duplicat? If you can get results that says otherwise, then I am all ears for it.


RE: Team for Uranium (competitive) - Cataclyptic - 09-25-2016

(09-25-2016, 12:44 AM)Lord Windos Wrote:
(09-25-2016, 12:17 AM)Cataclyptic Wrote:
(09-24-2016, 08:06 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Where can you get the regenerator luxi? I want to get one for breeding attempts.

Get a female luxi, then breed with an appropriate HA male pokemon. There's a 20% chance to breed the HA Luxi with this method, at least if I'm reading the patch notes correctly. I'll try doing that tomorrow, if you want to try it then get back to me if you succeed and I'll do the same.

I thought that 20% only applied if you breed a HA male with a duplicat? If you can get results that says otherwise, then I am all ears for it.

Aha! I have a regenerator Luxi by doing exactly what I said up top! My evil plans will come to fruition in no time...

(And unbelievably, it was on the first try! And its female!