(07-18-2018, 08:27 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:

(07-18-2018, 08:19 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Also, maybe using Hazma, I can make a deal with Gyarados to make him normal. That might be a good reason for Gyarados to let Arial help him. And since its a dragon, maybe Arial could ask Reiner or Lindworm to help about how to raise a dragon.

I don't think an even angrier Gyarados is going to care too much about whether it's purified.  Or most corrupted Nuclears, for that matter, but especially for something that naturally has 5 Disobedience even uncorrupted.  Trying to bargain with Gyarados is most likely just asking for it to smash you.

...I make no guarantees that Reiner will help with this N-Gyarados, by the way.

(07-18-2018, 08:35 PM)Lord Windos Wrote:

(07-18-2018, 08:27 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:

(07-18-2018, 08:19 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Also, maybe using Hazma, I can make a deal with Gyarados to make him normal. That might be a good reason for Gyarados to let Arial help him. And since its a dragon, maybe Arial could ask Reiner or Lindworm to help about how to raise a dragon.

I don't think an even angrier Gyarados is going to care too much about whether it's purified.  Or most corrupted Nuclears, for that matter, but especially for something that naturally has 5 Disobedience even uncorrupted.  Trying to bargain with Gyarados is most likely just asking for it to smash you.

...I make no guarantees that Reiner will help with this N-Gyarados, by the way.

Reiner has two big incentives in helping with N-Gyarados: Preventing it from becoming a MAXIMUM THREAT and killing Arial/having him trade it away to some doofus that WILL cause problems, and that a relatively Tame Gyarados is a VERY good ace in the whole to have for the both of them.

If purified, the extra Disobedience will go away too. You are right they are not the most...magnanimous of creatures, though, so barginning without a talent for Dragons, High Insight/Empathy, a REALLY good barginning chip, or ideally some combination thereof will end in failure (to put it mildly).

(07-18-2018, 08:45 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:

(07-18-2018, 08:35 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Reiner has two big incentives in helping with N-Gyarados: Preventing it from becoming a MAXIMUM THREAT and killing Arial/having him trade it away to some doofus that WILL cause problems, and that a relatively Tame Gyarados is a VERY good ace in the whole to have for the both of them.

Well, the first is rather unarguable as long as Arial gets it out of the NRF successfully...but as far as the second point goes, there's no guarantees Reiner and Arial are even going to be remaining allies in the near future, so...





Slightly unrelated, but since Turbo only has to be used by Reiner and it affects the whole party, does it only need 1 dose of treatment to cure its downsides for everyone?

(07-18-2018, 09:10 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote:

(07-18-2018, 08:51 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: If you help Arial with his draconic problem, he will be in great debt with you. Perhaps even joining with you. Think about it. Reiner would might need a extra pair of hands when deal with ferocious angry Rockets. And it is a good thing for Arial because he will still going to follow Reiner and Reiner will not need to hunt Arial down, since he will have a Cursed Arm user on his side. One who have a Pure Nuclear Pokemon and a powerfull Gyarados.

...that's quite the suggestion you're making, considering what Arial knows concerning what the consequences of leaving Team Rocket are.