(01-18-2018, 02:31 PM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote:

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(01-17-2018, 07:18 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: "Thank you...And sorry to bother you." Then Heart join with Shiva in the tabble. He massage his head trying to find words about what to say. "I going to direct to the point. Me and Nathan since I join in the group we not...get along very much well, as you already notice until now. But since we return from the caverns when we meet the sage, the situation became more dired I guess. I was irate from Nathan decision from absent of the battle when we was battling that ground pokemon and see giving up and acting something like "Oh my Kirlia is frozen and my Deltadog is beat, I have pokemon to still continue the battle but instead I giving up from still fighting!" I was kinda irate about how much he left his guard down in that with the danger of another ambush."

"Yeah, we discover later it was some kinda of test, but if was not? What if it would be some danger who even might kill us in the first opportunity? I fight with him, trying to make him have a atitude, but because of the stress of life/deadly situation I call him onion and try to make him have some atitude. Then I try to courage him to have some atitude but instead he simple do nothing. I was disapointed and irate by this kinda of atitude. In that time I was beggining to respect him, but my respect for him fade away when he act the way he did, and with other atitudes."

"I even try to apologize him, but with no effect. Then the situation go worse and worse. When I invite you and Nathan, he was clealy umcofortable with my presence everytime. And I can see he is not acting the way he was normally acting when I joined with you guys. Yesterday after my pokemon battle in the Little Cup, when you was having your pokemon battle I try to talk with him, trying to fix our situation. But instead he simple ignore me like a statue, almost like he thinks he was superior to me. I was umpleased since I try to be polite, then I let go a comment like that: "Well, I know when my presence is not apreciated. I guess I have to keep this Old Unow notes with me and this information Dagny told to me. Welp I tried." Then I try to turn away and find another seat to watch your battle."

"But Kirlia simple teleport in my front trying to stop me. I imagined Nathan simple order his pokemon to try stop me and make me talk then I simple say: "IF Nathan want to talk with me, Nathan just need to talk with me. Otherwise I remain silent." Then I have trying to follow my path and Kirlia try again to stop me, and nothing about Nathan have any atitude, almost like he thinking I have own something to him and I the one to begin the talk. I was more infuriated like a Empirilla and say to Kirlia: "Look Kirlia, I say that before and I will say again: IF Nathan want speak with me, he just need just to speak with me. I will not talk unless he made his move, and talk about it. Otherwise I will remain silent. And he need learn something: Even friends sometimes give up trying in help when that person dont want to be help. You can have you blind loaylty as much you want Kirlia. I dont mind and I dont care. But dont expect me, Ventus or Shiva have the same blid loaylty. Now if you excuse me I have other things to do."

"This might be the reason why Nathan have some gloomy mood today. Nathan simple...ugh I dont know. I know I am wrong in many ways, but his atitude and actions sometimes me question if I really want to apologize such person like him. Sometimes I even think he dont care about anything, nor want to understand others or accept the opinion of anyone. And his past actions in the cavern make me question if Nathan have any moral left to boss anyone anymore. I simple want to give up in try resolve or fix the situation since he clearly stated in the beggining of our journey to Star City he doesnt even consider me a friend, so why I should try be friendly with someone who doesnt respect anyone and have any moral left with him?"

"Sorry Shiva to bother you with all of this, but I simple dont know what to do or how interact with such person like Nathan. He is like a wall filled with spikes. Everytime you try to understand, you hurt your hand and have your hand filled with spikes. This is the way I feel about Nathan."

When Heart apologied for feeling like he's bothering her and takes a seat at the table she was at, Shiva only took that off with a friendly hand gesture to show that it's no big deal and that he's NOT bothering her. "That's no big deal, really. Do pur out your heart on me if that's what you desire. Or go get tea or coffee first if you'd like, I'll wait... Nope? Well then..." By leaning back into her chair, adjusting glasses and taking another sip of coffee - today's brewing was splendid! - while making careful eyecontact she expressed being all ears. She may not be a therapist, but if someone she knows comes directly to her with a request to talk, how could she ever refuse, especially now when there was still time to talk before she'd have to head to the Shelter and Ven has somewhat unlocatable currently (where has he gone...?) AND Shiva was in a rare good mood this monring?

Heart's ...troubled look and coming directly to the point wondered her a little and caused a semi-curious frown, but otherwise she let him speak out without interruption.



She should have known.
She could have known.
She should and could have known why Heart wanted to talk, that he'd come back again after that somewhat failed dinner to talk or ask her about things concerning Nathan (luckily not over the cause of her leaving the scene, phew), sooner or later...
But Shiva was not Gothitelle, so she could not know.

It took her a little until she spoke up, silence broken by the white noise of the others here in Lobby reigned meanwhile, in a voice that was clearly help as neutral as possible. "Thanks for entrusting me with all your worries, Heart... Hmm... Well, concerning any happenings during or shortly after that battle at the eremit's cave, you have to excuse me for not really paying attention to what happened to the others, as my Cottonee got knocked out by a Poison Jab right at the start while Nightshade bravely took her place and battled on, eventually even dealing the final hit to that Beartic to enable me catching it... Luckily I managed to keep both safe, had a Revive on hand and the catch succeeded, so I managed to recover rather quickly. Unlike...him, it seems..."

At that point, Shiva simply could not hold that frustrated(?) sigh that escaped her, while leaning forwar again and resting her head on one head while stirring the remaining content of mug more for the sake of doing something than the actualy stirring process. "Heart, let me start by saying that you have done nothing wrong. To my opinion, that is. Instead of shutting up, you approached and spoke with Nathan, encouraged him and apologized, that deserves some praise. Really! The thing is... He is some sort of an extra tough issue. Good luck on getting through his stubborness, as this is an action that feels somewhat doomed to fail unless you take an immense ammount of time and care, and even then it's no guarantee that you'll reach him. Me and Ventus have dealt with this for a while, you don't want to know how often Ven and Nathan ended up in fights and conflicts.... Until dear Ven just gave up on him, as I figured out. I can't blame him for that choice, really. Sometimes I wonder why I haven't done yet."

"Concerning that dinner... Yes, I figured out Nathan was not feeling rather comfortable. That's partly his fault as it'd be no problem to friendly decline by saying thanks but no thanks instead of alienating from us... Dinner table should be a peaceful place where everyone likes to gather for good food or sharing how one's day has been. Like...at home. Partly it's your fault though, Heart - there was really no point in stressing the issue, you could have left things to rest for that night instead of pulling him down even more. He's sensitive to such a thing for his own reasons, so please keep that in mind."

"... ... ...that's the point, Heart. He's having issues, to put it simply. Don't ask me about it, do us all a favour and don't ask him about it unless you absolutely must, but please do trust me when I say that he's struggling with his own demons." *Sigh* "It's not like I'm clean and free by myself, I'm simply rather good at keeping my issues hidden to rot within me and poison my interior, but I'm drifting apart, sorry... Ehm, thing is, don't blame Nathan for shutting off and sending his dearest Kirlia in return. That...seems to be the way he's dealing with troublesome things. Weather this is a good or bad thing to deal with things is a different matter... Like, I stopped counting how often Kirlia somewhat told me to please talk or take care for his Master. It could be a lifesaviour, but on the other hand I can TOTALLY understand that this may be taken in the wrong way, like you did. I don't blame ya for deciding that it has to be Nathan HIMSELF to make a move instead of his Pokemon, sooner or later he'd have to learn that lesson anyway. Good decision, actually. The outcome of that decision...well, certainly not pleasant, but let's be honest: What did you expect? "



At that point, Shiva made a break of her speech. She needed to both catch up on breath and gather her thoughts together, choosing carefully what to say. Damn - no more coffee left, mug was empty. Also, naturally Shiva had no idea what an Empirilla was, but she opted that this again was a Pokemon from Tandor? The urge to get that Upgrade for her Almanac increased for a little...

"...Heart, you made your points and sentiments clear towards Nathan and Kirlia. Crystalclear, if I may believe your words. The rest depends on Nathan, really, but...allow me to tell you one thing: You don't have to be friends with him. None is forcing you. As long as leave him at peace  and aren't stressing things AND you two are able to get along without huge trouble during our further traveling, I feel like things will be alright. Maybe not 'best', but very fine. Who guarantees that you succeed if YOU try to mend things, things with a person you don't seem to like and who doesn't seem to like you either? None, correct. Think about that for a moment." ... "Concerning he bossing us around - ah, you don't know how things were at the beginning of our journey. We, especially Ventus, have our own morals and thoughts, it seemed like that was new to Nathan and he struggled with us disagreeing to his beliefs. Lead to inevitable fights and conflicts, but since Ven stopped caring and just goes his way regardless of what Nathan thinks, things went a loooot better. I for my part know what I am doing although I'm not always sharing, and there's a tiny amount of pride in me that tells me that I don't always have to listen nor follow someone who is less mature and younger in years than I am as well as keeps a nightmarish deltadog despite me and Ven clearly distrust and fear it."

"Concerning that blind loyalty... Ah, that is a different matter. Let's...talk about to a different time, shall we? For now, well, take the way my sweetish Cottonee and how I interact with her and compare that with him and Kirlia... Quite a difference although the respective Pokemon is a friend for life to us, isn't it? The background's different, blahblah, I know that."