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(08-11-2017, 12:44 AM)Lord Windos Wrote: (08-11-2017, 12:40 AM)Cataclyptic Wrote: PS: can anybody get me data on the move changes that were applied? Like who gets defog and rapid spin at what level, other move changes?
I'll check the Wiki and Check every change that I can notice, but that is at least a 3 Hour task of combing the entire Wiki, and even longer if I'm going to be methodical and thorough. Still, I'll see what I can put together for you, as a gift from one comp guide maker to another. Actually that's why I'm asking- the wiki needs updating. It won't have any of that information yet.
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Then I have as much of an Idea as you do, mate. I don't an idea where to start on that front, so I am afraid that I can't help on that front. Sorry...
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Well, my first try on a randomizer nuzlocke wasnt very successful, lost to the first trainer on route 1 bec he had a Dermafrost with Blizzard, and my starter Quezoral didnt do very well against that 
Lets try again
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08-24-2017, 05:07 AM
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(08-11-2017, 02:34 AM)Cataclyptic Wrote: (08-11-2017, 12:44 AM)Lord Windos Wrote: (08-11-2017, 12:40 AM)Cataclyptic Wrote: PS: can anybody get me data on the move changes that were applied? Like who gets defog and rapid spin at what level, other move changes?
I'll check the Wiki and Check every change that I can notice, but that is at least a 3 Hour task of combing the entire Wiki, and even longer if I'm going to be methodical and thorough. Still, I'll see what I can put together for you, as a gift from one comp guide maker to another. Actually that's why I'm asking- the wiki needs updating. It won't have any of that information yet.
I don't know when that was added on the wiki but it seems now that Frosthra learns Defog at level 65.
That's another one in addition to S51-A, Drilgann, and the birds. Still not sure about Unymph.
Edit : Quetzoral also learns Defog at level 58.
Edit 2 : Buuuuuut I just checked in Venesi if my Coatlith could relearn Defog. And it couldn't. Seriously there's something wrong here. Just because I evolved my Quetzoral before level 58 (that was prior to the update) my Coatlith can't learn it now? I mean the pokemon still gained levels, the move should be in its "forgotten moves list" or however you call it. Geez I'm so disappointed
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(08-24-2017, 05:07 AM)shademonkey Wrote: I don't know when that was added on the wiki but it seems now that Frosthra learns Defog at level 65.
That's another one in addition to S51-A, Drilgann, and the birds. Still not sure about Unymph.
Edit : Quetzoral also learns Defog at level 58.
Edit 2 : Buuuuuut I just checked in Venesi if my Coatlith could relearn Defog. And it couldn't. Seriously there's something wrong here. Just because I evolved my Quetzoral before level 58 (that was prior to the update) my Coatlith can't learn it now? I mean the pokemon still gained levels, the move should be in its "forgotten moves list" or however you call it. Geez I'm so disappointed
Ah yes, the infamous situation of level up moves that only a pokemon's pre-evolution can learn. Unfortunately,that's how it works in the main series games, so unless Defog were to be added to Coatlith's level up movepool as well, you're out of luck. :/
I do agree that it's unfortunate that Coatlith evolved prior to the update can't learn it, but at the same time, those Coatlith weren't raised with the intent of using Defog, so...
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(08-24-2017, 11:47 AM)Dragonstrike Wrote: (08-24-2017, 05:07 AM)shademonkey Wrote: I don't know when that was added on the wiki but it seems now that Frosthra learns Defog at level 65.
That's another one in addition to S51-A, Drilgann, and the birds. Still not sure about Unymph.
Edit : Quetzoral also learns Defog at level 58.
Edit 2 : Buuuuuut I just checked in Venesi if my Coatlith could relearn Defog. And it couldn't. Seriously there's something wrong here. Just because I evolved my Quetzoral before level 58 (that was prior to the update) my Coatlith can't learn it now? I mean the pokemon still gained levels, the move should be in its "forgotten moves list" or however you call it. Geez I'm so disappointed
Ah yes, the infamous situation of level up moves that only a pokemon's pre-evolution can learn. Unfortunately,that's how it works in the main series games, so unless Defog were to be added to Coatlith's level up movepool as well, you're out of luck. :/
I do agree that it's unfortunate that Coatlith evolved prior to the update can't learn it, but at the same time, those Coatlith weren't raised with the intent of using Defog, so... Erm, unless I'm saying complete bs, I think I recall my evolved mons back in fourth gen remembering moves their pre evos never learnt... But that was in fourth gen. Anyway you're right about the last part. I admit I wrote this comment out of frustration I couldn't teach my perfect IVed Coatlith the move right away, but I've managed the hatch another interesting Chicoatl so now I'm all good. Just a random tantrum from the good ol' lazy breeder that I am.
Oh and while we're at it, Barewl can learn Rapid Spin at level 40, yay!
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(08-24-2017, 03:44 PM)shademonkey Wrote: (08-24-2017, 11:47 AM)Dragonstrike Wrote: (08-24-2017, 05:07 AM)shademonkey Wrote: I don't know when that was added on the wiki but it seems now that Frosthra learns Defog at level 65.
That's another one in addition to S51-A, Drilgann, and the birds. Still not sure about Unymph.
Edit : Quetzoral also learns Defog at level 58.
Edit 2 : Buuuuuut I just checked in Venesi if my Coatlith could relearn Defog. And it couldn't. Seriously there's something wrong here. Just because I evolved my Quetzoral before level 58 (that was prior to the update) my Coatlith can't learn it now? I mean the pokemon still gained levels, the move should be in its "forgotten moves list" or however you call it. Geez I'm so disappointed
Ah yes, the infamous situation of level up moves that only a pokemon's pre-evolution can learn. Unfortunately,that's how it works in the main series games, so unless Defog were to be added to Coatlith's level up movepool as well, you're out of luck. :/
I do agree that it's unfortunate that Coatlith evolved prior to the update can't learn it, but at the same time, those Coatlith weren't raised with the intent of using Defog, so... Erm, unless I'm saying complete bs, I think I recall my evolved mons back in fourth gen remembering moves their pre evos never learnt... But that was in fourth gen. Anyway you're right about the last part. I admit I wrote this comment out of frustration I couldn't teach my perfect IVed Coatlith the move right away, but I've managed the hatch another interesting Chicoatl so now I'm all good. Just a random tantrum from the good ol' lazy breeder that I am.
Oh and while we're at it, Barewl can learn Rapid Spin at level 40, yay!
Thanks for the info!
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Wow, awesome work guys. Just one little thing.
I can't seem to get the mystery gift? Is it available still?
I downloaded the update and went to mystery gift. This caused my game to load up, and grant me randomizer mode, instead of checking for the gift. Maybe that has an influence? I checked for the mystery gift again on my main and second file and there is none.
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(09-03-2017, 10:01 PM)Cigar and a Fedora Wrote: I can't seem to get the mystery gift? Is it available still?
Maybe it just isn't anymore.
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