[Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels

[Lord Windos]

Yes, they do, and I already calculated it as *4 Vitality in the Dynamic Punch roll since your character has 3 Vitality, and Mega Evo. adds a + 1 to all stats. Cooler is just strong and in charge that high Vit doesn't bother them, mate.

[Spiritmon]

Spoiler

Yes, they do, and I already calculated it as *4 Vitality in the Dynamic Punch roll since your character has 3 Vitality, and Mega Evo. adds a + 1 to all stats. Cooler is just strong and in charge that high Vit doesn't bother them, mate.

Have less Fight, Brawl and Canalize is very much dificult. Wish I have join sooner in the campaigh to not have this dificult. *Sigh* Anyway, lets take a few changes. Post comming Windos.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Have less Fight, Brawl and Canalize is very much dificult.

It's only a real problem if you're really competitively orientated, I guess, and if there are faced battles are challenging. *shrugs*

Besides, I'm waiting for you in Iron's campaign, Windos, if you have time and muse, please don't leave me standing there alone!

[Dragonstrike]

(Note: Typically Transform is NOT an free action, but I'll make an allowance in this case. Next time, keep that in mind mate!)

Awww, and I was all ready to see Gaspar get creamed too

Kidding, it's a 'friendly battle' and all, so this makes some sense in character

There is ONE important piece of info Arial still needs, though...what's Cooler's ability?  Sheer Force (since you can choose to NOT activate it in Pokrole if you don't want to, unlike in the games. That extra damage is killer if applied properly, particularly if you start getting reckless...), or Torrent (moar Water! Max soaking power in the rain! *Blub*)?

Another thing to note about Transform is the book explicitly states it also copies the target's Attributes (I think the Skills and Specialties are implied to be copied as well? They are tied to individuals instead of groups in the base rules, after all), so would Gaspar be using Nelly's stats instead of Arial's in this case?

And yes, this is a very important question since Mew can do this too, so...

[Dragonstrike]

@Spiritmon

Dynamic Punch has a -5 Accuracy penalty, so keep that in mind on top of the other points I've raised about Transform just now.  Of course, Nelly can use it 3 times without TOO much trouble, so if Gaspar DOES end up using her stats instead of Arial's...

If we're talking about Dynamic Punch based off of Arial's stats, though...he'll struggle to even use it once without focusing on using it in a Single Action...

[Spiritmon]

Spoiler

(Note: Typically Transform is NOT an free action, but I'll make an allowance in this case. Next time, keep that in mind mate!)

Awww, and I was all ready to see Gaspar get creamed too

Kidding, it's a 'friendly battle' and all, so this makes some sense in character

There is ONE important piece of info Arial still needs, though...what's Cooler's ability?  Sheer Force (since you can choose to NOT activate it in Pokrole if you don't want to, unlike in the games.  That extra damage is killer if applied properly, particularly if you start getting reckless...), or Torrent (moar Water!  Max soaking power in the rain!  *Blub*)?

Another thing to note about Transform is the book explicitly states it also copies the target's Attributes (I think the Skills and Specialties are implied to be copied as well?  They are tied to individuals instead of groups in the base rules, after all), so would Gaspar be using Nelly's stats instead of Arial's in this case?

And yes, this is a very important question since Mew can do this too, so...

@Spiritmon

Dynamic Punch has a -5 Accuracy penalty, so keep that in mind on top of the other points I've raised about Transform just now.  Of course, Nelly can use it 3 times without TOO much trouble, so if Gaspar DOES end up using her stats instead of Arial's...

If we're talking about Dynamic Punch based off of Arial's stats, though...he'll struggle to even use it once without focusing on using it in a Single Action...

Decided to not post yet until I make sure about the information. Want to know and be right first.

[Lord Windos]

(Note: Typically Transform is NOT an free action, but I'll make an allowance in this case. Next time, keep that in mind mate!)

Awww, and I was all ready to see Gaspar get creamed too

Kidding, it's a 'friendly battle' and all, so this makes some sense in character

There is ONE important piece of info Arial still needs, though...what's Cooler's ability?  Sheer Force (since you can choose to NOT activate it in Pokrole if you don't want to, unlike in the games.  That extra damage is killer if applied properly, particularly if you start getting reckless...), or Torrent (moar Water!  Max soaking power in the rain!  *Blub*)?

Another thing to note about Transform is the book explicitly states it also copies the target's Attributes (I think the Skills and Specialties are implied to be copied as well?  They are tied to individuals instead of groups in the base rules, after all), so would Gaspar be using Nelly's stats instead of Arial's in this case?

And yes, this is a very important question since Mew can do this too, so...

I was half thinking of letting that happen, but I recall I'm deliberately trying not to be a Killer Gamemaster despite the difficulty of my campaign. Its hardly fun having your counter getting wasted because you forgot to que up some attacks afterwards!

Cooler's Ability is Torrent, and his Surprise is + 2 Vitality, since Nelly picked this one up from a trainer looking to make a good trade as a Totodile. She believe she got the better end of the deal, and I'm inclined to agree!

Hmm.....given that Pokémon in our campaigns drawn their Attributed prowess from their Trainers rather than themselves primarily unless Wild/Special, letting them auto copy an STRONK being's stats could be problematic.....but then again Reiner is hardly a weakly himself, and Arial's Gasper has a Choice Scarf to limit what he can do with the move. Up until now I've been having it just copy the Moves, Abilities, Surprises, and Stat Changes, so changing the way it works now would seem odd. Still, you make a good point with the rulings in the book AND this change would make the move more in line with how it works in the base games, so going forward Transform will also duplicate the Opponent's  Attributes as well. However I still can keep the Attribute secret myself, so as to not give more intel to you guys to exploit ruthlessly!

So Gasper Cooler would have + 2 VIT and + 1 STR and DEX, with the afformentioned moves and Torrent and Nelly's own stats backing it up. What a beast!

[Dragonstrike]

I was half thinking of letting that happen, but I recall I'm deliberately trying not to be a Killer Gamemaster despite the difficulty of my campaign. Its hardly fun having your counter getting wasted because you forgot to que up some attacks afterwards!

Cooler's Ability is Torrent, and his Surprise is + 2 Vitality, since Nelly picked this one up from a trainer looking to make a good trade as a Totodile. She believe she got the better end of the deal, and I'm inclined to agree!

Hmm.....given that Pokémon in our campaigns drawn their Attributed prowess from their Trainers rather than themselves primarily unless Wild/Special, letting them auto copy an STRONK being's stats could be problematic.....but then again Reiner is hardly a weakly himself, and Arial's Gasper has a Choice Scarf to limit what he can do with the move. Up until now I've been having it just copy the Moves, Abilities, Surprises, and Stat Changes, so changing the way it works now would seem odd. Still, you make a good point with the rulings in the book AND this change would make the move more in line with how it works in the base games, so going forward Transform will also duplicate the Opponent's  Attributes as well. However I still can keep the Attribute secret myself, so as to not give more intel to you guys to exploit ruthlessly!

So Gasper Cooler would have + 2 VIT and + 1 STR and DEX, with the afformentioned moves and Torrent and Nelly's own stats backing it up. What a beast!

Sweet.

And what's the Choice Scarf's effect again?  +2 Initiative or something?  Because a Quick Claw does the same thing in the book rules, but with no drawback, so...

Speaking of which, Gaspar still needs an Initiative roll iirc. Didn't matter at first due to Prankster, but it certainly matters now!

[Spiritmon]

Spoiler

(Note: Typically Transform is NOT an free action, but I'll make an allowance in this case. Next time, keep that in mind mate!)

Awww, and I was all ready to see Gaspar get creamed too

Kidding, it's a 'friendly battle' and all, so this makes some sense in character

There is ONE important piece of info Arial still needs, though...what's Cooler's ability?  Sheer Force (since you can choose to NOT activate it in Pokrole if you don't want to, unlike in the games.  That extra damage is killer if applied properly, particularly if you start getting reckless...), or Torrent (moar Water!  Max soaking power in the rain!  *Blub*)?

Another thing to note about Transform is the book explicitly states it also copies the target's Attributes (I think the Skills and Specialties are implied to be copied as well?  They are tied to individuals instead of groups in the base rules, after all), so would Gaspar be using Nelly's stats instead of Arial's in this case?

And yes, this is a very important question since Mew can do this too, so...

I was half thinking of letting that happen, but I recall I'm deliberately trying not to be a Killer Gamemaster despite the difficulty of my campaign. Its hardly fun having your counter getting wasted because you forgot to que up some attacks afterwards!

Cooler's Ability is Torrent, and his Surprise is + 2 Vitality, since Nelly picked this one up from a trainer looking to make a good trade as a Totodile. She believe she got the better end of the deal, and I'm inclined to agree!

Hmm.....given that Pokémon in our campaigns drawn their Attributed prowess from their Trainers rather than themselves primarily unless Wild/Special, letting them auto copy an STRONK being's stats could be problematic.....but then again Reiner is hardly a weakly himself, and Arial's Gasper has a Choice Scarf to limit what he can do with the move. Up until now I've been having it just copy the Moves, Abilities, Surprises, and Stat Changes, so changing the way it works now would seem odd. Still, you make a good point with the rulings in the book AND this change would make the move more in line with how it works in the base games, so going forward Transform will also duplicate the Opponent's  Attributes as well. However I still can keep the Attribute secret myself, so as to not give more intel to you guys to exploit ruthlessly!

So Gasper Cooler would have + 2 VIT and + 1 STR and DEX, with the afformentioned moves and Torrent and Nelly's own stats backing it up. What a beast!

Incredible. This will save us in the future I sure. 
Windos, I will have to delay a bit about my post. I have no idea how to proceed now. It will take a time to make my next post. Sorry...

[Lord Windos]

Sweet.

And what's the Choice Scarf's effect again?  +2 Initiative or something?  Because a Quick Claw does the same thing in the book rules, but with no drawback, so...

Speaking of which, Gaspar still needs an Initiative roll iirc.  Didn't matter at first due to Prankster, but it certainly matters now!

Quick Claw only provide a + 1 Initiative in my campaign, and it doesn't add to Accuracy Rolls like CS does, since Speed and Dex are = in this game, I made that call early on it would provide + 2 DEX basically. So with Quick Claw Gasper would move  a bit faster, but he wouldn't have it helping him spam attacks more or move as fast as with CS.

Oh, and DM fiat is still on the table when it comes to Transforming into Legendary and Mythical Pokémon or other Special Pokémon, as those are DESIGNED to be overpowered and borderline impossible challenges, and having a go to counter would diminish the threat they hold a wee bit...

Roll: (1) + 4 + 2 + Choice Scarf (2) + Dragon Dance (1) = 10 , still slower than Cooler, so it goes second.