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Dragonstrike · 07-23-2018, 09:29 PM

BTW, I'll get to responding to your PM tomorrow, Windos. Need to take a close look at some stuff, and I'm kinda tired and might make some mistakes if I try to do it right now. Still going to pay attention to what's going on for a bit here, though.

Lord Windos · 07-23-2018, 09:48 PM

(07-23-2018, 09:29 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: BTW, I'll get to responding to your PM tomorrow, Windos. Need to take a close look at some stuff, and I'm kinda tired and might make some mistakes if I try to do it right now. Still going to pay attention to what's going on for a bit here, though.

Gotcha, mate. I ain't in no rush to hear back from you, and I rather you be well rested than straining yourself over a already straining campaign that, by its very nature, is already extreme, hard, and extremely hard.

Spiritmon · 07-24-2018, 06:02 PM

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Lord Windos · 07-24-2018, 06:09 PM

Huh....didn't know my Threads were so popular with others! Thanks, for all that are reading along on this wild ride of a campaign!

Spiritmon · 07-24-2018, 06:12 PM

(07-24-2018, 06:09 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Huh....didn't know my Threads were so popular with others! Thanks, for all that are reading along on this wild ride of a campaign!

Its because you and Iron are awesome Game Masters.

Dragonstrike · (This post was last modified: 07-24-2018, 08:35 PM by Dragonstrike.)

Alright, the bulk of my little project is finished, @Spiritmon! I was adjusting/combining the movesets from the book with Gen 7's! I'll be doing this with all the pokemon Arial, Reiner, and their allies obtain so that we have a clear reference. While going through this, I discovered there were some changes that needed to be made to certain pokemon's movepools...

Many of the pokemon have changed level up movesets and EXP costs for their moves due to the combining of the Gen 6 and 7 based movepools. I have a few you should note down for later, Spirit:

- Airmid the Alomomola has only one change to worry about: Whirlpool is added to her movepool for a base cost of 49 exp. (It'll probably cost more for her, obviously)

- Ea the Carracosta saw no changes at all.

- All Tandorian pokemon will use their wiki entries for their movepools unless Windos says otherwise. Asura only got a bonus because Primeape did (besides those 3 new moves, his level up movepool is staying the same for simplicity)

- Durendal the Gligar's moveset is exactly the same as the book's as well, even after evolving.

- (N-)Gyarados had some notable alterations to its movepool, however. Check it out and note it down:

Gyarados Adjusted Movepool

Spiritmon · 07-24-2018, 08:44 PM

(07-24-2018, 08:31 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: Alright, the bulk of my little project is finished, @Spiritmon! I was adjusting/combining the movesets from the book with Gen 7's! I'll be doing this with all the pokemon Arial, Reiner, and their allies obtain so that we have a clear reference. While going through this, I discovered there were some changes that needed to be made to certain pokemon's movepools...

Reiner
- Reiner's Kingdra effectively already knew Hydro Pump at the start of the campaign due to it being a Relearner move! As such, she learns a different move for free: Muddy Water!

- Rhyxemplar learned Ball Bearing Blaster upon evolving since Rock Wrecker is a Relearner move for Rhyperior! He also knew Horn Drill already, but instead of an EXP refund, he's getting 50% off his next Attribute based Surprise! Cuz Windos said so. *shrug*

- Weavile learns a Relearner move of his own! Quick Att...wait, what? That's not QA! That's Sudden Strike! How'd he learn that?! (I imagine Weavile is very confused right about now, as he probably knows he didn't know that move before...and that it's a move that he probably shouldn't know, too...)

- Poe learns Covet because it's 0 EXP for Eevee in Gen 7! Ridia gets a 23 EXP refund for it as well!

- Arbok gains 22 EXP since he already knew Crunch at the start of the campaign due to it being an evolution move!

- Felicia learns Swift because it's an evolution move!

- Ayame get a 10 EXP refund for Fury Stinger because Twineedle is an evolution move for Beedrill!

Clair
- Gyarados learns Bite because it's an evolution move!

- Charizard and Dragonite learn Wing Attack since it's an evolution move for both of them! Charizard also learns Heat Wave because it's a Relearner move!

- Aerodactyl learns Ancient Power without having to spend 25 EXP on it! Why? Because Windos said so! (It's also literally the only change to Aerodactyl's moveset, so she can still use the book's moveset without having to worry about remembering AP's cost)

Arial
- N-Gyarados learns Bite because it's an evolution move!

- Asura learns Stomping Tantrum, Pursuit, and Outrage for free! Why? Because Primeape learns them in Gen 7, so we'll treat them as Relearner moves for Empirilla.

Angelica
- Crobat learns Bite because it's a Relearner move!
Many of the pokemon have changed level up movesets and EXP costs for their moves due to the combining of the Gen 6 and 7 based movepools. I have a few you should note down for later, Spirit:

- Airmid the Alomomola has only one change to worry about: Whirlpool is added to her movepool for a base cost of 49 exp. (It'll probably cost more for her, obviously)

- Ea the Carracosta saw no changes at all.

- All Tandorian pokemon will use their wiki entries for their movepools unless Windos says otherwise. Asura only got a bonus because Primeape did (besides those 3 new moves, his level up movepool is staying the same for simplicity)

- Durendal the Gligar's moveset is exactly the same as the book's as well, even after evolving.

- (N-)Gyarados had some notable alterations to its movepool, however. Check it out and note it down:

Gyarados Adjusted Movepool
Thrash (0)
Bite (0)
Leer (21)
Dragon Rage (23)
Twister (24)
Ice Fang (27)
Aqua Tail (30)
Scary Face (33)
Rain Dance (38)
Crunch (39)
Hydro Pump (41)
Dragon Dance (44)
Hyper Beam (47)
Hurricane (48)

Wohoo! Awesome! Ice Fang with Gyarados gonna be awesome, and Outraged is a pretty useful! Since Outraged its a full mindless atacck, its pretty perfect for a pokemon like Asura. Just a question though: Acording to the Pokerole RPG tools Primeape learn the move Final Gambit for 0 XP. I think this doesnt mean much since there is already many awesome moves. We consider that one as a lost move or a Relearner move?

Lord Windos · 07-24-2018, 08:49 PM

I say that Final Gambit is a Relearner Move, and leave it at that.

Spiritmon · 07-24-2018, 08:52 PM

(07-24-2018, 08:49 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: I say that Final Gambit is a Relearner Move, and leave it at that.

Understood! Thanks.

Dragonstrike · (This post was last modified: 07-24-2018, 09:06 PM by Dragonstrike.)

(07-24-2018, 08:44 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Wohoo! Awesome! Ice Fang with Gyarados gonna be awesome, and Outraged is a pretty useful! Since Outraged its a full mindless atacck, its pretty perfect for a pokemon like Asura.

Yup, Ice Fang will be very useful when (N-)Gyarados learns it. Doesn't know it yet, but Ice coverage is always good to have.

Asura would have also faired a lot better against Arbok if he knew ST and Outrage before, but ah well.

(07-24-2018, 08:52 PM)Spiritmon Wrote:
(07-24-2018, 08:49 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: I say that Final Gambit is a Relearner Move, and leave it at that.

Understood! Thanks.

While we're at it, Asura should also know Covet, Leer, Focus Energy, and Fling as well since they're all 0 exp moves for Mankey and/or Primeape. (This is what happens when the movesets for canon pokemon in a fan game are based on older generations. *shrug*)

That okay, Windos?

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