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(09-28-2018, 04:13 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: (09-28-2018, 03:13 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Yeah... I guess so. I think we will find a way to destroy those CA. Its not there to much me or Arial could stop you or Reiner since Reiner is Arial boss. But we could at least try to find a way to revert Riza to her human form.
And I have a idea to who ask....Allure Darkness Zuryk/@Lord Windos is there a way to revert the transformation of Riza?
For the shake of being impartial and fair towards you too, Spiritmon, you don't have to automatically concede to Dragonstrike/Reiner's plans if you want to Arial to keep his CA. Just because Reiner and Mew want and will be rid of those weapons of mass destruction from their lives doesn't mean your chara. has to be if you honestly both enjoy them. However, you are pretty much on your own in regards to them and any plotlines/characters/grand events that they inevitably attract since Dragonstrike has made it clear he wants nothing to do with them at this point - which I do not hold against him in anyway, since his disdain for them is now more than acceptable and justified.
Of course, if Dragonstrike/Reiner want to outright force you to give up the CA instead of letting Arial keep his (if that's what he wants to do), he's entitled to do that (heroically too, perhaps, given he's 'saving' Arial from the trouble those things bring), but it'll have to be openly announced so that either a duel or all out battle can take place for impartiality's/Not Suddenly Getting Stabbed in the Back IC shake. As I said, PVP Conflict and dickery is fine with me, so long as its handled in a relatively 'fair' manner and nobody starts nursing grudges over it - this is just a game we're playing for fun, after all, not our real lives.
.....Another pentioner for the Mother and Father of Illusions has come, I see. Though you are a much more favored one than the last, hehehehe.....
Hmm.....Yes, there are various ways to revert Arial precious mosquito to full humanity, but not all of the are equally......beneficial for her, let's say. Some outcomes are better, near perfect even, and others.......well, I do believe she'd be better of as she is than take those options, unless she has a death wish or is a masochist like your dear puppet....
Ah, and lest we forget, there's always the matter of price to consider too! After all, there is no such thing as a free lunch with darling dark old me, and what you are asking for is exponentially more costly than a simple meal. Perhaps as high or higher than the time I wound and weaved Arial back into the land of the living, after his......Explosive failure to capture Delta Muk. Higher and higher still the price rises, if you want 'treatment plans' that have the least negative impact.
So, how would you pay me for my services, Spiritmon? If a gave you a price, would you be willing to pay for it? And would it be worth it, in the end, for what you want?
After all, Riza in the end is just a pitiful gutter snipe, to whom your little fool took pity on and developed a puppy dog love for. One who couldn't handle herself well before and after Cursed Arms came into her life, and is certainly not capable of mending her ways without drastic measure or constant babying.
On a grander scale, she isn't even real to you and has no true 'self' , so her entire existence only has meaning so long as we place it within her. It would be quite easy - infinitely so, even! - to just stop caring about her, her fate, and simply enjoy her for what she is, until you inevitably tire of her and discard them like an empty can of mortein, instead of trying to broker a deal for her with dear old me.
Finally, and mayhaps most importantly......is what you are asking for her something she truly wants? Or would be able to handle all too well? Riza may be repentent and disgusted with what she is, but at the same time she appears to have rather drastically dissassociated themselves from her humanity, perhaps to comfort herself and maintain what few scraps of sanity she has left. Let's not forget how spectacularly she reacted to Arial that one lovely night prior in Celadon, hm? Though it was a long ago for you, so I don't blame you if have, hehehehehe.....
Ah, but that terribly rude of me to say, wasn't it? Well, let me show a little kindness, and give you so advice. From a dark god like me, you certainly know it will be quite valuable. It is thus: oh so v e r y often, best intentions go horribly awry. Whether it be for the good of another, or for yourself, what you want may not be what is needed. Sometimes, such august desires only serve ruininous ends. For you.....or the recipient. Or both. Or many more. Especially so even, when your intention are so......grand and impactful, like your request now.
That is my advice. Take it however you may or not at all, except for granted or folly. Well, maybe that too, if you choose to indulge spiteful. It means all the same to me, and it would be most amusing to see you turn your nose up to me and see you blunder, hehehehehe....
Hm.....I believe that's enough out of me for now. I do so love being a chatterbox, but it would be remiss of me not to give you time to think about this all. Give some thought to what I'm said, and see if you want to make a deal with me after all.
After all, the devil is always in the details, hehehehehehehe.......
Well, its for the reason I know Reiner its strong enough to get Arial Cursed Arm I decided not to fight. And like you say, if Arial refuse to give his CA, Reiner will take by force. Either way, I want to act in a more peace way.
As for you Zuryk....
I not going to be a fool like I did in the past...I still regret that day, when I...pratically try to kill Arial, and I accept a deal without think of the consequences...and in the process I kill Gaspar. Thats make me a double murderer. If Arial someday heart about that, he will problably hate me forever....nor I could blame him.
Its like you say Zuryk, I could simple let things go the way it is until I get tired of Riza and go in another path. I will not denied that. I a pitiful human like you say...But I want to give her happiness. To her and Arial. Both of them already suffer so much. Abbandoned, excluded, and alone...there is a reason I choose Arial to be my Avatar in this world. Not just because we both have love for bad puns, but because we have something in similar: We both have the feeling of loneliness. Now, thats doesnt mean I have a bad life, but in the past I was hurt, and feel the pain of loneliness, and like Arial I lost something very dear to me...Its just like Pain in Naruto once say: "Only someone who feel pain can understand the pain of other." Thats why I feel such strong conection with Arial. Because despite he be a masoquist, a madman, a rocket and villain in the eyes of others, he is more human than most "good" people out there.
At least he have someone who care for him. But Riza did not. Even if they not real to me or have a "true self", but she is real to Arial and thats enough to me. She deserve to have a chance to have happiness, along with Arial. They already have suffer enough grief and I think they both deserve a happy ending, even if I do not participate in some sequel. Strange isnt? Me care for a fictional characters? I blame you for this Windos for such immersity in this campaigh! But I not a fool to force her in go foward in such transformation from nothing. So I have a deal for you....
When everything over about Celadon City, I want to have a audience with me, you, Arial and Riza all together, for us to "discuss" the chance of her change back to human form. In exchange in that deal, I will sacrifice my conection to Celadon City conection with Arial, cutting our conection. I already mess more than enough of his life and he deserve happiness. And she also. You can call me stupid or idiot Zuryk, but you can never say I dont care for characters or "hosts" like you say. Its looks something little to you that deal...but its really pain my heart to separate from such char like Arial but I think its like they say: If you love something, you must let it go. I think its also because I a little selfish I gues.
So...what is your opinion about that, god of darkness. Do we have a deal?
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(09-28-2018, 04:42 PM)Spiritmon Wrote:
Well, its for the reason I know Reiner its strong enough to get Arial Cursed Arm I decided not to fight. And like you say, if Arial refuse to give his CA, Reiner will take by force. Either way, I want to act in a more peace way.
As for you Zuryk....
I not going to be a fool like I did in the past...I still regret that day, when I...pratically try to kill Arial, and I accept a deal without think of the consequences...and in the process I kill Gaspar. Thats make me a double murderer. If Arial someday heart about that, he will problably hate me forever....nor I could blame him.
Its like you say Zuryk, I could simple let things go the way it is until I get tired of Riza and go in another path. I will not denied that. I a pitiful human like you say...But I want to give her happiness. To her and Arial. Both of them already suffer so much. Abbandoned, excluded, and alone...there is a reason I choose Arial to be my Avatar in this world. Not just because we both have love for bad puns, but because we have something in similar: We both have the feeling of loneliness. Now, thats doesnt mean I have a bad life, but in the past I was hurt, and feel the pain of loneliness, and like Arial I lost something very dear to me...Its just like Pain in Naruto once say: "Only someone who feel pain can understand the pain of other." Thats why I feel such strong conection with Arial. Because despite he be a masoquist, a madman, a rocket and villain in the eyes of others, he is more human than most "good" people out there.
At least he have someone who care for him. But Riza did not. Even if they not real to me or have a "true self", but she is real to Arial and thats enough to me. She deserve to have a chance to have happiness, along with Arial. They already have suffer enough grief and I think they both deserve a happy ending, even if I do not participate in some sequel. Strange isnt? Me care for a fictional characters? I blame you for this Windos for such immersity in this campaigh! But I not a fool to force her in go foward in such transformation from nothing. So I have a deal for you....
When everything over about Celadon City, I want to have a audience with me, you, Arial and Riza all together, for us to "discuss" the chance of her change back to human form. In exchange in that deal, I will sacrifice my conection to Celadon City conection with Arial, cutting our conection. I already mess more than enough of his life and he deserve happiness. And she also. You can call me stupid or idiot Zuryk, but you can never say I dont care for characters or "hosts" like you say. Its looks something little to you that deal...but its really pain my heart to separate from such char like Arial but I think its like they say: If you love something, you must let it go. I think its also because I a little selfish I gues.
So...what is your opinion about that, god of darkness. Do we have a deal?
....Hehehehehe, my, what a bleeding heart you possess! Gushing woe, kinship, and affection for you little puppet and his motley tick! One could fault you for being so open and wearing your feelings on your sleeves like finery, ripe for the taking or explotation......but then again, you wouldn't be you if you act otherwise, hm?
If I may - and I will, thank you! - allow me to dispel an assumption you have, that left untouched would prove to be oh so disasterous potentially: nothing is unfailingly entitled or deserved to anyone. All things must be earned, whether it be through hard work, negotiation, action, inaction, or myriad other ways that will sadly go unmentioned. Nothing is ever guarenteed or freely given in this world or your own, most especially of all happiness and a good life. Two things you are asking for that have long been long denied to Arial, Riza.....hehehe, Reiner and Mew too, if I may lump them in while addressing you.
Dragonstrike, Reiner, Mew.....they are getting what they want because Windos erred so egregiously in his ongoing performance, for letting his story spiral further out of his control and away from them, that he feels terrible, guilty, terribly guilty, and on a whole so disappointed in himself, and so seeks to make amends. That, and like them, he too want to see and end come to his play, one that is not cancellation or restarting production to an earlier stage. And of course, compromises had been made to let the show go on like they wish.
In the end, those two want the same thing: A lovely, satisfying little end, to all the hard work and enjoyment they put into the story they wove. And both are willing to go to great lengths to achieve that covetous goal, no matter what, hehehehe.....
You, Arial, and Riza, on the other hand......you are asking for something rather extraordinary from me, St. Innocent themselves! The God of all that is Darkness, illusionary, intangible and immaterial, That Which Began Before Beginnings, and Which Will Persist After The Ending! The Sly Devil, Dark Humorist Incarnate, and All Devouring Fiend! M E.
Not to sound too callous, but I don't owe you or little cuddle bug anything. I don't have any obligation to change her back to being pure human, if that is what she even wants. That is why you are trying to make a deal with me in the first place: because you really don't have any other option.
So please, for your shake, don't make such presumptions, lest they presume crushing failure instead of uplifting success.
As for your offer to cut your puppet's strings - and what a bold one it is - .....let me think about it. I'll get in touch with you when I've come to a decision.....or otherwise. Until then, I'll leave you to your thought and in suspense, as per my want!
Oh, and before I forget, I would suggest you he Arial ask what Riza wants first, instead of forcing a decision on her. As I have just said moments ago, presumptions can make a fool of you! Well, more so in Arial's case, hehehehehehe......
Now, I go. Toodles~
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(09-28-2018, 05:42 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: (09-28-2018, 04:42 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Well, its for the reason I know Reiner its strong enough to get Arial Cursed Arm I decided not to fight. And like you say, if Arial refuse to give his CA, Reiner will take by force. Either way, I want to act in a more peace way.
As for you Zuryk....
I not going to be a fool like I did in the past...I still regret that day, when I...pratically try to kill Arial, and I accept a deal without think of the consequences...and in the process I kill Gaspar. Thats make me a double murderer. If Arial someday heart about that, he will problably hate me forever....nor I could blame him.
Its like you say Zuryk, I could simple let things go the way it is until I get tired of Riza and go in another path. I will not denied that. I a pitiful human like you say...But I want to give her happiness. To her and Arial. Both of them already suffer so much. Abbandoned, excluded, and alone...there is a reason I choose Arial to be my Avatar in this world. Not just because we both have love for bad puns, but because we have something in similar: We both have the feeling of loneliness. Now, thats doesnt mean I have a bad life, but in the past I was hurt, and feel the pain of loneliness, and like Arial I lost something very dear to me...Its just like Pain in Naruto once say: "Only someone who feel pain can understand the pain of other." Thats why I feel such strong conection with Arial. Because despite he be a masoquist, a madman, a rocket and villain in the eyes of others, he is more human than most "good" people out there.
At least he have someone who care for him. But Riza did not. Even if they not real to me or have a "true self", but she is real to Arial and thats enough to me. She deserve to have a chance to have happiness, along with Arial. They already have suffer enough grief and I think they both deserve a happy ending, even if I do not participate in some sequel. Strange isnt? Me care for a fictional characters? I blame you for this Windos for such immersity in this campaigh! But I not a fool to force her in go foward in such transformation from nothing. So I have a deal for you....
When everything over about Celadon City, I want to have a audience with me, you, Arial and Riza all together, for us to "discuss" the chance of her change back to human form. In exchange in that deal, I will sacrifice my conection to Celadon City conection with Arial, cutting our conection. I already mess more than enough of his life and he deserve happiness. And she also. You can call me stupid or idiot Zuryk, but you can never say I dont care for characters or "hosts" like you say. Its looks something little to you that deal...but its really pain my heart to separate from such char like Arial but I think its like they say: If you love something, you must let it go. I think its also because I a little selfish I gues.
So...what is your opinion about that, god of darkness. Do we have a deal?
....Hehehehehe, my, what a bleeding heart you possess! Gushing woe, kinship, and affection for you little puppet and his motley tick! One could fault you for being so open and wearing your feelings on your sleeves like finery, ripe for the taking or explotation......but then again, you wouldn't be you if you act otherwise, hm?
If I may - and I will, thank you! - allow me to dispel an assumption you have, that left untouched would prove to be oh so disasterous potentially: nothing is unfailingly entitled or deserved to anyone. All things must be earned, whether it be through hard work, negotiation, action, inaction, or myriad other ways that will sadly go unmentioned. Nothing is ever guarenteed or freely given in this world or your own, most especially of all happiness and a good life. Two things you are asking for that have long been long denied to Arial, Riza.....hehehe, Reiner and Mew too, if I may lump them in while addressing you.
Dragonstrike, Reiner, Mew.....they are getting what they want because Windos erred so egregiously in his ongoing performance, for letting his story spiral further out of his control and away from them, that he feels terrible, guilty, terribly guilty, and on a whole so disappointed in himself, and so seeks to make amends. That, and like them, he too want to see and end come to his play, one that is not cancellation or restarting production to an earlier stage. And of course, compromises had been made to let the show go on like they wish.
In the end, those two want the same thing: A lovely, satisfying little end, to all the hard work and enjoyment they put into the story they wove. And both are willing to go to great lengths to achieve that covetous goal, no matter what, hehehehe.....
You, Arial, and Riza, on the other hand......you are asking for something rather extraordinary from me, St. Innocent themselves! The God of all that is Darkness, illusionary, intangible and immaterial, That Which Began Before Beginnings, and Which Will Persist After The Ending! The Sly Devil, Dark Humorist Incarnate, and All Devouring Fiend! M E.
Not to sound too callous, but I don't owe you or little cuddle bug anything. I don't have any obligation to change her back to being pure human, if that is what she even wants. That is why you are trying to make a deal with me in the first place: because you really don't have any other option.
So please, for your shake, don't make such presumptions, lest they presume crushing failure instead of uplifting success.
As for your offer to cut your puppet's strings - and what a bold one it is - .....let me think about it. I'll get in touch with you when I've come to a decision.....or otherwise. Until then, I'll leave you to your thought and in suspense, as per my want!
Oh, and before I forget, I would suggest you he Arial ask what Riza wants first, instead of forcing a decision on her. As I have just said moments ago, presumptions can make a fool of you! Well, more so in Arial's case, hehehehehehe......
Now, I go. Toodles~
Thank you for your time Zuryk. I look foward to our next meeting.
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Well Windos...I believe you have something to say yourself. If you have something to say too, speak. We are friends after all.
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(09-28-2018, 06:00 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Well Windos...I believe you have something to say yourself. If you have something to say too, speak. We are friends after all.
....Forgive me, but I honestly......don't? I believe I've said I all I wanted earlier before.....they arrived, but I could be forgetting about it. I am rather abscent minded at times.
.....Great to be friends with you too, mate. He....never thought I make so many great friend here, but I'm glad it happened. Thank you, Spirtmon. Sorry you have to be caught up in the upcoming paradign shift, but....well, I've let things get too out of hand for too long.
So......when do we start on this, @ Dragonstrike and Spiritmon? Balls in your court, so for now I'm waiting to be serve it in the meantime.
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(09-28-2018, 06:07 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: (09-28-2018, 06:00 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Well Windos...I believe you have something to say yourself. If you have something to say too, speak. We are friends after all.
....Forgive me, but I honestly......don't? I believe I've said I all I wanted earlier before.....they arrived, but I could be forgetting about it. I am rather abscent minded at times.
.....Great to be friends with you too, mate. He....never thought I make so many great friend here, but I'm glad it happened. Thank you, Spirtmon. Sorry you have to be caught up in the upcoming paradign shift, but....well, I've let things get too out of hand for too long.
So......when do we start on this, @Dragonstrike and Spiritmon? Balls in your court, so for now I'm waiting to be serve it in the meantime.
Hey, dont feel like that. It was my own choice in join my friend. I just want everyone to have a good ending. You, me, Dragonstrike, Riza, Arial, Reiner and Mew. If to that end I need to cut my conections with Arial, I would do gladly to let them have a happy ending. Or something close. I guess it was more or less the sacrifice you did with Ventus in the Skull Ruins. Its hurt me indeed, but I guess someday this would happen. The only thing I want, is to my favourite goofball Rocket have the ending he indeed deserve.
But...at least I want to her what Riza indeed wish. If she trully want to become human again.
Also, dont need to thank me friend. I gladly too to have meet so many wonderfull people here. You are someone amazing Windos. Dont let anyone say the contrary buddy.
I guess we could do that after everything get wrapped in the NRF. We still have a world to save I guess. For some reason I feel we are some kind of suicidal squad. The HQ version I mean, since the Movie Version its lame.
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(09-28-2018, 06:07 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: So......when do we start on this, @Dragonstrike and Spiritmon? Balls in your court, so for now I'm waiting to be serve it in the meantime.
I'll get started on it fairly soon. However, before I do...is it okay if I do a little fourth wall breaking involving 4th wall aware characters to inform Reiner about what's goin' down? (I'm asking because I have something...interesting in mind, since this is a rather big deal)
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(09-28-2018, 08:29 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: (09-28-2018, 06:07 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: So......when do we start on this, @Dragonstrike and Spiritmon? Balls in your court, so for now I'm waiting to be serve it in the meantime.
I'll get started on it fairly soon. However, before I do...is it okay if I do a little fourth wall breaking involving 4th wall aware characters to inform Reiner about what's goin' down? (I'm asking because I have something...interesting in mind, since this is a rather big deal)
Go right ahead, since how else is Reiner going to get the notion that is a-OK to go nuking the NRF?
'Ahem.'
...Well, other than Mew, of course.
'Yes, me. I finally managed to regain access to the meta thread and catch up things. No thanks to you, Windos.'
Blame THEM for that, not me. Said they wanted things to be a 'Surprise for you' while we were....negotiating, so he blocked you out for that time.
'...Of course they would do that. Presumably, you are not going to be divulging anymore details of your conversation with him.'
Unless you want him to.....pay you a visit and make Reiner's life more interesting now that it has been for the past week, then no, I will not.
''*Sighs*......I thought as much. You two really are the worst.'
....We are who we are, Mew. We are imperfect, meddlesome beings that always muck around in the affairs of others, and can cause no end of grief or heads. We are not pure evil, however, and when we can we try to be beneficient and helpful. Even if we do so in not the nicest ways. All that, and more, can be said for you too.
'...All the same, at least I try more than you two at being good. Or limit my fun to just mostly harmless pranks and wagers, unlike the play you two get up to. Just so you know.'
*Shrugs* True. Makes me glad that I made you much better than myself or them, you know? Shows me that I'm not completely hopeless deep down, and that I have more to provide to the world than just.......
'...'
Enough of that, though. Dragonstrike's got posting to do, I have plans and.....negotiations to finalize, and you have preparations for that Move. Let's all get start, right?
'...*Sighs* Right. See you in the Game Thread, Dragonstrike. Time to erase at least some of my......Akrus' greatest mistakes.'
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Working on my next post now. Liking some of the ideas I've had so far to spice things up a little and lighten the mood a little before we dive back into the serious stuff.
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Welp, and I'm done with that post. Well, I certainly think it's helping me get my creative juices flowing again. But what do you guys think?
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(09-29-2018, 11:28 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: Welp, and I'm done with that post. Well, I certainly think it's helping me get my creative juices flowing again. But what do you guys think?
So far, that interaction between Creator and created as been cool and impressive at the same time. Wish I could contribute with something in that conversation since it's been a while since I have post anything in Celadon City game thread. But I guess it would be rude on my part kill the immersion of your own momentum dragonstrike. I guess I gonna still act as a watcher for now. Unless any of you need something...?
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