[Meta Thread] Dragonstrike's Pokerole Test Game: Mount Coronet Mystery

[Spiritmon]

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We're still working off of the Gen 7 databases since Gen 8 did not exist at the time of this test game's creation, so the new information doesn't change anything in this test game.

I might implement some Gen 8 content into my main game, but that's going to be a tricky balancing act since some moves just straight up don't exist in Gen 8, and movepools are altered rather heavily as a result.  As of right now, I haven't decided if I'm going to use Gen 8 content in my main game at all.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

(...) since some moves just straight up don't exist in Gen 8 (...)

??????????????!!! That's dumb. Which moves are those, for example?
 
In that case thought, I'd rather just stick with what the Corebook says about the learnt LV-up movepool/Gen.7 stuff to make it easier for everyone.

[Lord Windos]

From what I can tell, Gamefreak took a lot of liberities with the Learnpools of Pokemon post Dexit with additional and/or removals to them, so they are a bit....strange, to put it simply, from what little I've looked into. Considering I no longer purchase Nintendo products , though, all Gens past 7 are pretty much non-existent to me, so I don't care about them in the slightest. If Dragonstrike ends up using content from future Gens in his campaigns I wouldn't object to it, but I will be in the dark about it for the most part unless he reveals all the details surrounding it.

[Dragonstrike]

??????????????!!! That's dumb. Which moves are those, for example?

A lot of them, but the big four that are missed in competitive pokemon are Return, Frustration, Hidden Power, and Pursuit.

Most of the other removed moves don't make nearly as much of an impact as those ones, so they aren't particularly missed usually.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

I'm with Windos on this one, means IF Gen.8 mechanics will be used, I'd please need to be updated on them since I don't know anything about this Gen bar some Pokemon, a few memes and the Dark -Type Gym Leader - he seems pretty cool design- and lorewise actually.

(...) Most of the other removed moves don't make nearly as much of an impact as those ones, so they aren't particularly missed usually.

Nooooooo not Hidden Power!!!

While the Comp.Scene might not miss the other removed moves, I probably would still because I usually enjoy rarely-used and unique moves.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Ohhh, I'm actually highly intetested in that Lycanrock Swarm! Does anyone want to join? I can do that myself if not

[Dragonstrike]

I'm with Windos on this one, means IF Gen.8 mechanics will be used, I'd please need to be updated on them since I don't know anything about this Gen bar some Pokemon, a few memes and the Dark -Type Gym Leader - he seems pretty cool design- and lorewise actually.

(...) Most of the other removed moves don't make nearly as much of an impact as those ones, so they aren't particularly missed usually.

Nooooooo not Hidden Power!!!

While the Comp.Scene might not miss the other removed moves, I probably would still because I usually enjoy rarely-used and unique moves.

I currently have no plans to use the major battle mechanic of Gen 8, Dynamaxing (which is basically Megas plus Z moves in one package for 3 turns only.  Gen 8 has neither of those mechanics present individually).  It wouldn't make sense for the story I planned. 

IF I used stuff from Gen 8, it would mostly be new moves and pokemon that were introduced in it.  Funnily enough, one of them would actually be something Roxie would probably be interested in personally: a punk rock themed pokemon called Toxtricity.

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On the flip side, the removal of Hidden Power and the ease of changing the effects of a pokemon's nature (yes, you can do that now), changes to egg move breeding mechanics, and ease of getting pokemon to level 100 means that you can now make any pokemon competitively viable in Gen 8 with enough work (and it almost eliminates the need for pokemon breeding.  It's still an option, of course, and it's arguably easier to breed for a nature than it is to change a nature's effects).

Serebii has a full list of the moves that were removed if you want to take a look at it.  It can be found here.

[Lord Windos]

Ohhh, I'm actually highly intetested in that Lycanrock Swarm!  Does anyone want to join? I can do that myself if not

Nope, I'm not interested in a bunch of Pokemon with potential access to STAB Rock Slide in a fricking mine that could also be capable of Roaring Pokemon in and out of a character's party at Will. My choice of Encounter (The Modrille Swarm also make me nervous for their potential access to STAB Earthquake and Rock Slide, but at least between Beethoven and Paula's AoE Moves and the Encounter's lower Difficulty  I'm more equipped to blast the whole lot away before they have the chance to use them (and the later's immune to Ground type Moves, so all the better!)  ! Those puppers are all yours, dear!

[Spiritmon]

Dragonstrike, before I choose a encounter, how much dangerous Earthquake from Aspido would be in this place?

[Spiritmon]

Aside from most decisions and...cut content (read: lies) Dynamex it's a kinda interesting mechanic, but way to much overpowered to the point is banished in certain competition, and can only be used in the story in places able to Dynamex like the Gyms. 

Not to mention the...argh, Kanto saturation.

That's why I still prefer Mega Evo and Z-moves. Some Mega is indeed overpower (Looking at Mega Rayquaza) but not of them.

But now? Even a Dynamex Magikarp if you not careful can kill ya.