09-27-2016, 09:54 AM
(09-27-2016, 08:58 AM)poweroftibarn Wrote: Not a fan of Disenchant. Fairy is not a common coverage type and Beliaddon already takes neutral against Fairy, making the ability very situational. Defiant definitely deserves a mention as well. Once Defog becomes an HM or a move tutor move, Defiant will become very strong on Beliaddon, since it will allow him to switch in on Defog for a free +2 Attack, which is absurdly good. Additionally, when Nucleon gets the banhammer, users of Intimidate and Petrify such as Gyarados, Chimaconda, M-Arbok, and even Beliaddon himself will become more prevalent, further increasing the usefulness of Defiant.
As for the sets themselves, Choice Band and Flare Blitz deserve a mention on the first set. Choice Band is actually the best item to use on Beliaddon IMO, since it suits Beliaddon's pivoting nature quite well. Flare Blitz can definitely be used over Infernal Blade with 252 HP investment and you have a hazard remover on your team (which you should have if you are using Beliaddon in the first place). Not a fan of the second set, I don't like making Beliaddon full tank. Bulk Up still isn't that bad on Beliaddon, but some attack EVs would be appreciated. The anti lead set is pretty good, only problem is that Fire Orb and Fling are unnecessary when you have Will-o-wisp.
I would like to see two sets added: a choice scarf set and a subpunch set. In the interim, I will petition for Pursuit to be added to Beliaddon's move pool. Overall, nice work.
When I was writing this guide, I though of Defient as very situational. Getting a free stat boost is nice, but without some form of baton pass support, anything that gives it can either switch out to a physical wall and counter it, or, in the case of Gyarados and Chimicoda, Hydro Pump/Toxic it. If those don't KO it, it will be severely crippled, even with Drain Punch. Still, once Defog becomes more prevalent, though, and Nucleon bites the dust (Sadly), it usefulness will increase, so I'll rework the guide to make include that function.
As for Disenchant being situational, well, yes it is. There are not a lot of Fairies out there, and sacrificing Intimidate's ability to force switchs/make you bulkier or, as you point out, free exploitable ATK boosts from Defient does not sound like a good idea. However, what fairy type there around are pretty powerful. Slyveon, Luxelong, Winotinger, Mega Syrentide, and Mega Kircorn all are solid Pokémon that need to be accounted for, so having a 'mon that can switch into there STABs and brutally retaliate is quite useful, escpecially if your running one of the Various dragons on your team.
The Tank set may not to be to everyone's preference, but I will add some option for a alternative EV spread for it, if they want more ATK to run.
I have never been a fan of Choice Items myself, but I can not deny their usefulness. A Choice Band set would be ridiculously strong on Beliaddon, making whatever coverage move it uses be even more dangerous. A Choice Scarf set, though, seems a bit... weak on Beliaddon. A lot of things outrun it even with full investment in SPD, and the few things that can't either are not to prevelant in 'higher' tiers, or have some way of Killing it quickly. If you can give you thoughts on why a Choice Scarf set is important, I will see if a set can be made.
As for Flare Blitz, I already explained my thoughts on it, but I'll add it for completeness sake, if nothing else.
Subpunch can be accommodated for, though. At the time, I though that more than one Sub. set would be a bit too much, but I see the appeal of it. I'll get on it later today, or maybe sooner than that.
If Pursiut was added to its movepool, I would so add it in on all the sets (or most) or the sets. Beliaddon's ability to force switches is extremely powerful, and having pursuit paired with that would be icing on the cake. Thank you for the critique, again, because I can not improve on these guide without someone telling me I am doing something wrong~
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