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Competitive Guide: M-Arbok
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(06-05-2017, 11:40 AM)Lord Windos Wrote:
(06-05-2017, 11:31 AM)Dragonstrike Wrote:
(06-03-2017, 07:19 AM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote:
(06-01-2017, 06:23 AM)shademonkey Wrote: And Hyper Voice bypasses subs.

I didn't know that before. But Bulbapedia indeed states that "Substitute no longer protects against this move" from Generation 6 onward. Good to know on a HyperVoice-Sylveon. Thanks for sharing!

Yup!  A decoy doll isn't going to do much to protect your from a sound based attack, now, is it?

Yeah, Nucleon is just really stupidly OP for many reasons...

The only way I can see M-Arbok can take Nucleon is if they got a Boost from Coil and their were Stealth Rocks on the field when Nucleon switches in. It uses Sucker Punch, and Nucleon dies, but other than that Nucleon needs chip damage for this snakes move to OHKO it. Why does sound go through sub again, and who's idea was it? Sub is supposed to always take a hit before the user, or what's the point of setting it up in the first place?

Sound goes through Sub because Nintendo and Game Freak said so starting in gen 6.  A doll sitting on the ground won't do much to protect ears.  It makes sense.

Infiltrator and sound based moves are ways the main series games made Subs a little less powerful.  The move still does its job, but you have to be just a little more careful with it.
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Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Lord Windos - 05-30-2017, 09:35 PM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by shademonkey - 05-31-2017, 08:42 AM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Lord Windos - 05-31-2017, 12:01 PM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by shademonkey - 05-31-2017, 01:48 PM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Lord Windos - 05-31-2017, 02:12 PM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by shademonkey - 05-31-2017, 02:54 PM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Lord Windos - 05-31-2017, 03:01 PM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by shademonkey - 05-31-2017, 04:25 PM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Lord Windos - 05-31-2017, 04:32 PM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by shademonkey - 06-01-2017, 06:23 AM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Spiritmon - 06-02-2017, 02:25 PM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Dragonstrike - 06-05-2017, 11:31 AM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Lord Windos - 06-05-2017, 11:40 AM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Dragonstrike - 06-05-2017, 11:46 AM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Lord Windos - 06-05-2017, 11:53 AM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Dragonstrike - 06-06-2017, 01:15 AM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by shademonkey - 06-05-2017, 04:28 PM
RE: Competitive Guide: M-Arbok - by Lord Windos - 06-05-2017, 04:34 PM

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