06-24-2017, 06:45 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2017, 08:11 PM by Cataclyptic.)
Geeze you guys type fast -_-
@Lord Windos : Magnet rise is kind of useless on Astronite since it still has 6 other exploitable weaknesses and would much more prefer to use a better setup move. Iron defense is in the same boat, I can’t really justify using it on this rock type since I can’t see it helping sweep, support or anything else. Calm Mind can work on the offensive sets, but is generally outclassed by the Nasty Plot sets because Astronite’s SpDf isn’t too good. Also Crocune Syrentide does it way better and with a much better typing.
Gravity COULD be an interesting move to use on it… but Astronite cannot really make use of it outside of Focus Blast. It has some team wide use but that makes it situational. Focus Blast could be good on one of your hypothetical Fighting/Psychic/Ghost coverage attacker sets, but would be outclassed if one uses HP Fighting.
Focus Blast: 120 * 70 = 8400 overall damage
HP Fighting (60*1.5) *100 = 9000 overall damage
-Though Focus Blast might be able to score more KO’s. Speaking of the set though, that set does have some use but the Rock/Ground/Fire is generally better for this meta. Looking at the threatlist through A rank, counting supereffective hits as +1 and double supereffective hits as +2, Roc/Gro/Fir has a score of 25 whereas the Gho/Fig/Psy gets 19, meaning the set I have posted scores more SE hits than this other one (discounting nuclears). That being said, if combined with Psyshock, this could let Astronite function as a pseudo mixed attacker (though atm I do not know how useful that would be).
@shademonkey : Yeah I’ll put Sturdy on that set in a minute. Must have been a typo because I swore I put it in there… as for the Defense thingy you linked, I have not heard of it. I come from Smogon, so that’s how I figure out EV spreads and whatnot.
I’ll make some edits in a minute because I did more calcs and it turns out Hidden Power Ice is a viable alternative to HP Fire, achieving perfect coverage while hitting ~ the same SE damage as fire did but with different threats.
@Lord Windos : Magnet rise is kind of useless on Astronite since it still has 6 other exploitable weaknesses and would much more prefer to use a better setup move. Iron defense is in the same boat, I can’t really justify using it on this rock type since I can’t see it helping sweep, support or anything else. Calm Mind can work on the offensive sets, but is generally outclassed by the Nasty Plot sets because Astronite’s SpDf isn’t too good. Also Crocune Syrentide does it way better and with a much better typing.
Gravity COULD be an interesting move to use on it… but Astronite cannot really make use of it outside of Focus Blast. It has some team wide use but that makes it situational. Focus Blast could be good on one of your hypothetical Fighting/Psychic/Ghost coverage attacker sets, but would be outclassed if one uses HP Fighting.
Focus Blast: 120 * 70 = 8400 overall damage
HP Fighting (60*1.5) *100 = 9000 overall damage
-Though Focus Blast might be able to score more KO’s. Speaking of the set though, that set does have some use but the Rock/Ground/Fire is generally better for this meta. Looking at the threatlist through A rank, counting supereffective hits as +1 and double supereffective hits as +2, Roc/Gro/Fir has a score of 25 whereas the Gho/Fig/Psy gets 19, meaning the set I have posted scores more SE hits than this other one (discounting nuclears). That being said, if combined with Psyshock, this could let Astronite function as a pseudo mixed attacker (though atm I do not know how useful that would be).
@shademonkey : Yeah I’ll put Sturdy on that set in a minute. Must have been a typo because I swore I put it in there… as for the Defense thingy you linked, I have not heard of it. I come from Smogon, so that’s how I figure out EV spreads and whatnot.
I’ll make some edits in a minute because I did more calcs and it turns out Hidden Power Ice is a viable alternative to HP Fire, achieving perfect coverage while hitting ~ the same SE damage as fire did but with different threats.
