[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

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Problem is, neither of our characters would desire to give Orthros a chance in the first place, due to their own hang ups and experience with its ilk and much, much prefer doing without it them trying to acknowledge as anything other than 'Nathan's Pokémon'. The very best you can expect for both Ventus and Shiva to treat Orthros is with VERY VERY grudging tolerance whenever he's out and about, or to simply shun/ignore it altogether whenever they are by the boy's side. Its forever tainted/untrustworthy/rightfully terrifying/easy hate target in their eyes , and will cause them to negatively modify their behavior around the dog accordingly based on those perceptions, no matter how hard Nate works to prove otherwise or positive evidence is presented for its case.

Essentially, its going to be like scaling a sheer, jagged, vertical 1 Km tall Cliffside to make the mutant mutt actually likable/non-provactive in Ventus and Shiva's eyes. Might be best to not try and please them and keep training/caring for Orthros regardless and ignore of their input, as I doubt it will be everything but good. Our character will eventually get used to the demon dog and rekindle their friendship towards you after the reveal....hopefully.
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That is an admirable goal that Ventus could get behind in most cases, as with Callam and Rotom, but with something like Orthros/Pinsir/Skunktank Line, his own history with them, his naturally paranoid, ruthless, and highly superstitious nature, and his experience as a Pokémon Researcher prevent him from opening his heart towards them. It take a miracle or something equally unlikely for him to consider anything less than menaces to society that need to be put down or locked away in a dark hole, so the chances of that happening are....slim. By all means keep at it, though, and my chara will no doubt support him in his endevour if not asked to stand up for Pokémon he explicitly hates/fears!

The fact that Nathan didn't force Orthros to come with him and he stayed this entire time should speak volumes by itself, I'm sure.  Nathan's going to keep training Orthros because of that alone.  The dog WANTS to be there, and Nathan's going to make sure everyone knows that, no matter how many times he has to say it.  The real problem there was that Mega Delta Houndoom, the pack leader.  And Nathan's got some plans for later concerning that if what I'm thinking of trying will work...

And like I've stated before, since Orthros has no reason to dislike Shiva (assuming she doesn't give him one), he should be very friendly towards her and her pokemon.  That should help with Orthros's image, I'm sure.

I want the reveal to Shiva to go as smoothly as possible, but it's just getting harder and harder for Nathan to even start it in the first place...once it's done, though, there's no need to worry about the dog as long as everyone at least tolerates it (Nathan isn't going to stand for any aggression towards the dog, period).  Orthros will be out and about, and everyone is just going to have to get used to him being around, and eventually come to terms with the fact that he's not the 'malicious monstrosity' his former pack leader was.

I feel like a broken record player...I've said all of this so many times already...I'm not asking nor expecting Shiva and Ventus to accept Orthros right away, I'm trying to give them enough reasons to get over their initial bias at least a little bit and tolerate the dog enough for the development to happen and allow Nathan to prove with a very, very, very good example that not all dangerous pokemon need be feared and/or shunned as a whole. Calam's the other big one, but it's not as big a deal since Absol only have a bad rep with most of Creshire.
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Skuntank only has 2 disobedience, so that's not a great example of anything but Ventus's personal bias.  And considering that Water Scimitar's Pinir wasn't the aggressor in Ventus and Shiva's case (just in Nathan's, and even then, the bug showed it wasn't overly cruel by letting Princess go.  And I know Ventus heard that when Nathan said that earlier), that's a REALLY bad example for Ventus to be using. Particularly since it was a trainer owned Mega Pinsir (which is already proof enough that Pinsir can be valuable companions instead of just aggressive bugs), not a wild one.

Neither of those specific cases are something Nathan would bring up in his arguments if there was no need to.