[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Dragonstrike]

Go on and reveal Orthros to her at the evening of the current in-game day and we'll be done with that, @Dragonstrike. She needs to burrow Porygon-Z from Nathan anyway and return it at evening, so there's a trigger for that.

Alright.  PM incoming.

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Ventus was bloody near killed by that Stuntank, so bias or not that is a preeetty good reason to despise the fuck out of the species line, and he hates Pinsir more for the threat they posed to you at first than being a Pinsir, but that evolved to outright hating the entire species overtime. Mega Pinsir is a good argument point, though!

Shiva going to treat it with fear at best and Ice Cold Hatred at worst in the beginning, and Ven will be right there by her side to protect them and reinforce those beliefs, especially if Orthros reacts negatively to my chara for his past actions.

I've been repeating myself quite the many time on this issue as well, and I'm rather tired of it to be honest, so let me be rather up front and give the definitive statement concerning my chara side in the argument: Ventus will NEVER like or accept Orthros in any way, shape, or form no matter WHAT happens. No matter how hard Nathan tries to prove otherwise, Orthros will always be a monster, fiend, demon, and abomination in my character's eyes, and he'll make those sentiments known clear and upfront from the get go to the boy to forever dissuade him of the notation to make him like their dog. There will be no positive development or coming to like the dog in Ven's eyes, and the only inch he's going to give it is the fact that its owned by Nathan.

 The only reasons tolerance is even on the table is because of DM fait, that grudging acknowledgment of your chara ability as a training in this regard, and not starting a shitstorm that would tear the group apart at its seems and scatter our charas to the four winds. OOC I don't mind the Delta Houndour myself much, but the sheer awfulness and trauma it'll inflict on Ventus/Shiva is just.....bad. Nathan knows this will not end well no matter what way he introduces the topic, and yet he would still force the mutt on them despite the hugely negative consequence it poses for their friendships with each. Finally, my character would normally agree with the point the boy is trying to make, but consider the Delta Houndour and its kind so inherently monsterous/horrible that they don't deserve anything less than fear and hatred. In Ven's eyes, they are the justified exception, and that lumping them in with other dangerous Pokémon would do a grave disservice at best....

- Why?  We've only encountered the one Pinsir so far.  I don't see any reasonable justification for that.

- Nathan will never ask Ventus to change his opinion on Skuntank.  I don't expect the species to ever come up IC in these discussions unless Ventus brings it up.

- Don't expect Orthros to ever like Ventus in return while he believes that, then.

- If Nathan could avoid revealing Orthros to them, he would.  But with how much the species stands out, a reveal would be inevitable. He has no choice in the matter as long as he wants to use Orthros.  Though I do wonder how Ventus would react to what Nathan's planning to do later on with Orthros (assuming it works)...

- Considering Ventus already knows about Orthros and has quite clearly expressed his distaste a few times without even meeting the dog first (close-minded thinking at its finest...), I don't even know if Nathan will want Ventus present for the reveal to Shiva.