[Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels

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But didnt Masoquist ignore pain penalizations? For Arial and all his pokemons? Sure its have the dowside about -1 Defense but still very powerfull

Geigeroach isn't Arial's pokemon.  If she were his, Pain Split wouldn't exactly be very useful if it was used on him.

Using TPK and Pain Split separately from each other in this case seems to be the safe bet.  One lets Arial maximize his raw power while crippling his opponent (better against a single enemy), the other lets Geigeroach offload some of her Pain somewhere beneficial, letting her more easily use multiple actions (best when Arial is not a potential/easy target and he's not using TPK)

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Pain Split is fairly counterproductive to optimizing that Strength buff, however.  What makes Pain Split valuable is taking away Pain Penalties from Geigeroach and giving it to something else so she doesn't have to deal with them as much.  If Arial stacks huuuge Pain Penalites on himself, they'd start getting shared with Geigeroach and start crippling her rolls quite heavily, even if she still has a lot of HP remaining.

So basically, there's no real way to take advantage of Pain Split to give Arial even more Pain unless Geigerach is the one accruing 'bonus' Pain.  And she probably wouldn't appreciate becoming a pin cushion on purpose at all, no matter how 'helpful' it might be.

But didnt Masoquist ignore pain penalizations? For Arial and all his pokemons? Sure its have the dowside about -1 Defense but still very powerfull

Key words: Only his Pain, and only for him and his Pokémon. Giegeroach isn't his Pokémon, so any Pain he gains and shares it to her....well, that will suck for the big Bug.

Oh. I understand. Any pokemon who dont have a bond or its not in Arial team if get the effects of masoquist...will accumulate pain and eventually this will might affect the dice of rolls...yikes! Its a smart weakness to be honest...

Yeap! Only Arial and his team benefits from Masochist, and anything else just suffers tremendously. Yikes indeed!

Keep in mind that if Pain Penalizations = the total number of Accuracy Dice you have for any one move WITHOUT Bonuses, then Arial or anyone else passes out for awhile. Since Arial has I believe 8-9 Dice for basic Attack Rolls, he can only get 8-9 STR Point before he passes out. That still can give a monsterous 11-12 STR to pass onto his Pokémon, but building up to that level is literally arduiously long, and exceeding the regular - 3 Pain has its own consequences...

Its a interesting strategy. Able to acumullate pain via safer methods then use Pain Split to let the foe have this pain and the same time have some secure boost of strengh when possible. This is something who can be very useful and powerfull.

You know? When I decided to make a crazy char with tendecies to love pain, it never pass though my head this could be a source of power. More Pain = More Power. I never could imagine Arial could be strong as Reiner. Perhaps close, but never a equal. Since he doesnt have anything special: Well, besides the fact about be have resistance against Mind Read, he was not choose to be some sort of Choose One of any Legendary Pokemon. Or have super psychic powers like Reiner. Or be Dragon Tamer or whatever. I believe he would just be a comically relief in this campaigh.

Even masoquists have limits I guess. But I guess Arial can still have huges buffs of strengh before pass out.