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[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins
(09-19-2018, 04:02 PM)Iron Wrote: As for Stealth Rocks + Spikes, I'm not sure. I have a feeling that means it doesn't stack with itself.

You can certainly have both in the games.

Expending 2 actions to deal 2 damage to every (well, most) incoming Pokemon doesn't seem OP. Dragonstrike what do you think?

I think they should stack.  Both because they stack in the games, and because they're technically 2 different effects since one of them can't hit flying/levitating pokemon unless some special effects/items are in play.

Do I think it's OP?  Kinda, yeah.  It's why most competitive teams at least have SR at the minimum, though, and why Spikes stacking was so dominant in gens 2 and 3.  Chipping off HP every time your opponent switches is an amazing effect, particularly if you take off 10-25% each time.  Of course, it's less effective in pokerole due to the nature of multiple actions, but immediately forcing (almost) all of your opponent's pokemon into -1 Pain range is still fairly strong.

Considering that 2 HP is going to be 20-25% of most fully evolved pokemon's health (the 8-10 max HP stuff), it seems mostly in line with what's possible in the actual games. 3 layers of spikes is 25% to grounded mons, SE SR is 25% to types weak to it.  

The fact that the entry hazards were nerfed in pokerole means you have stack both SR and Spikes to get the most out of it, whch vastly promotes variety in team composition.  Which I think is a great thing.  Spikes is also a rather rare move, all things considered, and most SR users are going to be Rock and/or Ground types of some variety with the limited TM compatability.

In short, it's a strong combo, but few trainers are going to have both on a single pokemon.  Forretress is one of those rare pokemon that can do it because entry hazards are kinda their sole niche.  I think it's fine for the moves to stack with each other, but not themselves.
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RE: [Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins - by Dragonstrike - 09-19-2018, 05:45 PM

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