Idea to fix the nuclear type

[Andyv2]

An in-game nerf to the type as a whole does seem rather extreme when you put it that way. I am also perfectly fine with playing a meta where no nuclear types are allowed at all. With regards to the one where they are allowed, it seems as if all the good ones are doomed to receive the ban hammer and then both metas will be functionally identical. Then, what would be the point of having separate metas? I think it would probably be best to follow a Smogon-like example and ban the type as a whole to Ubers, avoiding complexity in the process.

Yeah, that's another possible way to do it too.  However, the problem with that is not all Nuclear types are busted to the point of being uncounterable.  Nuclear Kinetmunk, for example.  The only Nuclear attack it gets is the underwhelming Gamma Ray, which isn't going to be OHKOing much of anything with Kinetmunk's stats (75 Sp Atk is kinda eh).

For now, I do agree that following a Smogon-like process and avoiding complex bans when possible would be an effective plan.  Banning the type as a whole might be a bit extreme, though.

In any case, this isn't a question that's likely to be fully answered today.  Until the Battle Sim is fully updated with the new stuff unique to Uranium (and it's all properly functional), there's not a whole lot that can be done about creating official tier lists.  All we have for the time being is baseline tiers based mostly on speculation and the statistics of every pokemon.

Having 4X supereffective damage on greater than 50% of the Pokedex is definitely broken. I think the best way to think about this is just like thinking about the Baton Pass ban in Sun and Moon OU. One of the arguments against banning Baton Pass was that some Pokemon have sets that would benefit from "dry passing". However, the Pokemon which this applied to were very irrelevant in the meta and preserving Baton Pass while disallowing stat passing was ultimately decided against.

My point is that Baton Pass was banned on the basis of having broken aspects (the passing of all accumulated stat boosts to strong abusers who would otherwise not be busted without it), despite its ability to be used in certain situations without being broken. The Nuclear type, by definition, has a broken aspect, which is that of having 4X supereffective damage against the entire Pokedex. >50% of the Pokedex is oneshot by any STAB Nuclear type move of reasonable power, another large chunk cannot counter the type due to dying in 2 hits or less. Not banning the Nuclear type on the basis of preserving meta-irrelevant Kinetmunk and Gamma Ray (both mediocre Pokemon and moves) is unreasonable. It doesn't matter either that nuclear is bad as a defensive type, since the discussion is focused on countering the type, which means being able to switch in multiple times on the type's STAB moves, since they will almost always switch out if they are slower than the opponent.

In conclusion, the type, by its design itself, is busted, or at least threatens the idea of countering in the comp scene, which should make people feel very uncomfortable. Don't get me wrong; I would still be interested in having two metas: one with and one without the nuclear type. However, I sincerely hope that they aren't so ban-heavy on specific Pokemon in the meta where the Nuclear type is allowed, to the point where it looks and functions identically to the meta not containing nuclear types.