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[MonkeyLord83]

There should ALWAYS be a discussion about things of this nature, because how can we decide something is good or not if we don't take the time to look over the issue?

Can we agree to disagree on this? I believe that we are not convincing each other the merits of our arguments, so why don't we end this discussion now, rather than drag it out?

Thing is, NOTHING is completely good or completely bad, everything is both. So while I do see that discussion is needed, I also see that discussion in most case will accomplish NOTHING in the long term as people will always see what they want to see. Some will always see something as good/acceptable, and some other out there will always see that same thing as unacceptable, no matter how much discussion put into it. I see your point and I get it, but I'm looking at the bigger picture when I say that's just NOT how arguments and society work... No argument in history ever truly been won, one side either all died or got tired of arguing, but they never stop believing their point of view, and they never really got convinced. Maybe people can understand the other point of view and grudgingly reach a compromise, OR it can end badly in flame, wars, and bloodshed, but we human never really "win" or "lose" an argument, not when both side have valid points and supporting 2 different ideals.

As for what you said regarding justifying exploitation. If we justify HA chain breeding bug, how long will it takes people to use that to push forward duping Pokemon/item, cloning save on the principle that it's not much different, as they are all exploitation? Would it really be fair to say one exploit is okay and the other not just because YOU feel that way? Who gets to be the judge, and what gives them the rights? I believe the community already agreed upon the current devs, so what's the point of dragging out an arguments for whether the bugs should be acceptable or not if our devs get the final saying anyway? And so what if they do or don't give any reason why they do something? Would it really change anything? Like when Andro removed the shiny star, it was collateral damages and it was clear from the start, but people still rage for days because of that, some even purposely stay downgraded for that star. The devs will always do what they believe is right, and sometimes that means the tough choices that won't please everyone in the community, or even displease the majority of the community. But we still have to respect that because we trust and believe in them enough... unless you wanna look for new devs...