01-17-2017, 08:08 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-17-2017, 08:37 AM by MonkeyLord83.)
The shiny star thing was a collateral damage, it's simply an issue in coding that causes several other problems and when the coding was fixed to fix the other problem, the star went away as well. Basically, asking for it back is asking for 3-4 other bad bugs back as well because there's simply no way to have one without the other. Dramsama was a balance issue. And to be fair, your argument with the HA bug thing is getting stupid.
For one, MANY HA wasn't released when the radar was first fixed due to map coding issue since JV's era. In addition, the fact that we have any HA at all is a blessing in itself, and A LOT OF the HA we even have right now SHOULDN'T even BE available (I'm referring to the exclusive encounters). There was a plan to release HA slowly and gradually into the game, and the fact we have all that we have already is plenty from my point of view. The HA bug was a thing never was to happen in the first place, the only reason why it existed was because coding issue, and its removal is merely correctly a wrong. Think from this point of view, had that bug never existed in the first place, would you be as vexed as you are now? That was supposed to be the reality. The bug should be treated as a dream, and not just because it was removed TWICE (ONCE by JV and Twitch when the game went from beta into released, and the second time around when Andro corrected his mistake).
Put yourself in their shoes, say you have carefully made this plan, and something you didn't plan for just pop that could POSSIBLY ruin the intended plan you just made, and possibly ruin the intended experience for everyone, but removing that may get on people nerve. The cost was making a part of the community mad, the benefit was ensuring the experience for the remaining of the community, and you have a pretty clear idea that the dividing line between the 2 is nearer to one side. I mean, all the people who actually minded and were actively against the removal of the bug were what, a handful(?), compare to everyone else who's okay either way or supportive of that removal. That's basically what happened.
While YOU already said you wouldn't mind all the application of the bug, you have to admit that bug would ruin the whole idea of Pokeradar. The radar is meant to be hard, it's meant to be the ONLY gateway to HA. And that bug would have made the radar nearly useless, and while YOU may not have any problem with that as a player, OTHER people, devs and players alike may. Just as releasing Punks to WT can possibly ruin the experience of catching them for other people, being able to chain breed HA would have the same long term effect of ruining the game experience. If you can chain breed HA, what's the point of the radar or what's the point of trading with other people? Just as duping Pokemon and flooding the market with a single Pokemon or item can ruin the experience for other players, so can this bug. And just as having a 6IVs Duplicat would break breeding, this bug CAN break the point of HA and Pokeradar. It's like Batman said to Alfred in Batman V Superman "if we believe there’s even a one percent chance that he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty", there's a good chance this bug could blow up on all of our faces big time if left as it was, so while some people would rather have it around, its removal is quite inevitable. Here, I'd like to take a step back and say, that I'm okay either way, but since you were hell bend on saying it's a good bug, I have to dig deep and point out EVERYTHING WRONG with that bug (it's just what I do, if people list all the good side of something, I'll point out everything bad about it, if someone say something is horrible, I'll point out all the good sides, and if someone talks abt both the good and the bad, I'll just add onto the growing list), which by the way, was not a happy experience, I actually was on okay term with it, now, I absolutely loathe it and am GLAD it's removed.
Just because something wrong makes people happy doesn't make it right. There are gray area, and then there are black and white area. Emotionally and biased-ly speaking, would I like a chance to be able to chain breed HA? Yes. But logically and unbiased-ly speaking, do I see that as wrong/immoral/illegal? Yes. It's wrong on so many level and whether or not it makes people or myself happy is irrelevant. And when it comes to decision making, I'll take logic side 99% of the time, and I'd rather the devs do the same than dealing with wishy-washy devs who changes their mind and make decision base on trying to please people or their personal emotions and feelings.
For one, MANY HA wasn't released when the radar was first fixed due to map coding issue since JV's era. In addition, the fact that we have any HA at all is a blessing in itself, and A LOT OF the HA we even have right now SHOULDN'T even BE available (I'm referring to the exclusive encounters). There was a plan to release HA slowly and gradually into the game, and the fact we have all that we have already is plenty from my point of view. The HA bug was a thing never was to happen in the first place, the only reason why it existed was because coding issue, and its removal is merely correctly a wrong. Think from this point of view, had that bug never existed in the first place, would you be as vexed as you are now? That was supposed to be the reality. The bug should be treated as a dream, and not just because it was removed TWICE (ONCE by JV and Twitch when the game went from beta into released, and the second time around when Andro corrected his mistake).
Put yourself in their shoes, say you have carefully made this plan, and something you didn't plan for just pop that could POSSIBLY ruin the intended plan you just made, and possibly ruin the intended experience for everyone, but removing that may get on people nerve. The cost was making a part of the community mad, the benefit was ensuring the experience for the remaining of the community, and you have a pretty clear idea that the dividing line between the 2 is nearer to one side. I mean, all the people who actually minded and were actively against the removal of the bug were what, a handful(?), compare to everyone else who's okay either way or supportive of that removal. That's basically what happened.
While YOU already said you wouldn't mind all the application of the bug, you have to admit that bug would ruin the whole idea of Pokeradar. The radar is meant to be hard, it's meant to be the ONLY gateway to HA. And that bug would have made the radar nearly useless, and while YOU may not have any problem with that as a player, OTHER people, devs and players alike may. Just as releasing Punks to WT can possibly ruin the experience of catching them for other people, being able to chain breed HA would have the same long term effect of ruining the game experience. If you can chain breed HA, what's the point of the radar or what's the point of trading with other people? Just as duping Pokemon and flooding the market with a single Pokemon or item can ruin the experience for other players, so can this bug. And just as having a 6IVs Duplicat would break breeding, this bug CAN break the point of HA and Pokeradar. It's like Batman said to Alfred in Batman V Superman "if we believe there’s even a one percent chance that he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty", there's a good chance this bug could blow up on all of our faces big time if left as it was, so while some people would rather have it around, its removal is quite inevitable. Here, I'd like to take a step back and say, that I'm okay either way, but since you were hell bend on saying it's a good bug, I have to dig deep and point out EVERYTHING WRONG with that bug (it's just what I do, if people list all the good side of something, I'll point out everything bad about it, if someone say something is horrible, I'll point out all the good sides, and if someone talks abt both the good and the bad, I'll just add onto the growing list), which by the way, was not a happy experience, I actually was on okay term with it, now, I absolutely loathe it and am GLAD it's removed.
Just because something wrong makes people happy doesn't make it right. There are gray area, and then there are black and white area. Emotionally and biased-ly speaking, would I like a chance to be able to chain breed HA? Yes. But logically and unbiased-ly speaking, do I see that as wrong/immoral/illegal? Yes. It's wrong on so many level and whether or not it makes people or myself happy is irrelevant. And when it comes to decision making, I'll take logic side 99% of the time, and I'd rather the devs do the same than dealing with wishy-washy devs who changes their mind and make decision base on trying to please people or their personal emotions and feelings.
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MonkeyLord83.
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Nothing is impossible, there are only things that are not yet possible!

MonkeyLord83.
OID: 213850. IGN: Magnus.
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