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Nuclear Pokemon Breeding: nuclear offspring
#11
(10-14-2016, 08:11 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: That, and the idea the radiation corruption is inheritable.... not liking that idea on a whole number of levels.

Radiation is known to alter DNA.
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(10-20-2016, 02:58 PM)Keileon Wrote:
(10-14-2016, 08:11 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: That, and the idea the radiation corruption is inheritable.... not liking that idea on a whole number of levels.

Radiation is known to alter DNA.

Good point!  If radiation mutates a Pokemon's DNA enough to change their typing, then it only makes sense (from a scientific standpoint) that said mutation would be hereditary.

Then again, one could also argue that radiation exposure also runs the risk of sterilization, so... either way, I don't think the breeding portion is ever going to make complete logical sense anyway. Rolleyes

Going back to Epsilon a moment... didn't Cameron say that the radiation had mostly dissipated from the island over the past ten years?  (Let's ignore the fact that this is highly unrealistic in the first place)  If the radiation had, in fact, gone away, shouldn't the Pokemon have eventually lost their Nuclear typing and/or had a portion of them die off to where there wouldn't be nearly as many Nuclear-types as there are now?  The fact that the island is COMPLETELY overrun with Nuclear Pokemon ten years later seems to suggest that they've been breeding... unless each and every one of the Pokemon you encounter had been there since the time of the first accident.
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(10-20-2016, 03:07 PM)EeveeBailey Wrote:
(10-20-2016, 02:58 PM)Keileon Wrote:
(10-14-2016, 08:11 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: That, and the idea the radiation corruption is inheritable.... not liking that idea on a whole number of levels.

Radiation is known to alter DNA.

Good point!  If radiation mutates a Pokemon's DNA enough to change their typing, then it only makes sense (from a scientific standpoint) that said mutation would be hereditary.

Then again, one could also argue that radiation exposure also runs the risk of sterilization, so... either way, I don't think the breeding portion is ever going to make complete logical sense anyway. Rolleyes

Going back to Epsilon a moment... didn't Cameron say that the radiation had mostly dissipated from the island over the past ten years?  (Let's ignore the fact that this is highly unrealistic in the first place)  If the radiation had, in fact, gone away, shouldn't the Pokemon have eventually lost their Nuclear typing and/or had a portion of them die off to where there wouldn't be nearly as many Nuclear-types as there are now?  The fact that the island is COMPLETELY overrun with Nuclear Pokemon ten years later seems to suggest that they've been breeding... unless each and every one of the Pokemon you encounter had been there since the time of the first accident.
While the land might be slowly becoming clean, the Pokémon affected by the radiation are not. Once enough radiation gets to them, they are permanently part Nuclear type, even if a Hazma cleans them up, producing and leaking radiation as they go along. This is why Kellyn and the Ranger had to repel them after the 2nd Nuclear disaster, since if they got past them, they would just spread the radiation across the land. And while I give it that they may be breeding in the wild, no one in there right mind would breed feral or partially irradiated Pokémon (ignoring Nucleon and the other stable Nucs).
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(10-20-2016, 08:19 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: ... while I give it that they may be breeding in the wild, no one in there [sic] right mind would breed feral or partially irradiated Pokémon (ignoring Nucleon and the other stable Nucs).

Are you insinuating that I might be sane? That's laughable.
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(10-20-2016, 08:19 PM)Lord Windos Wrote:
(10-20-2016, 03:07 PM)EeveeBailey Wrote:
(10-20-2016, 02:58 PM)Keileon Wrote:
(10-14-2016, 08:11 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: That, and the idea the radiation corruption is inheritable.... not liking that idea on a whole number of levels.

Radiation is known to alter DNA.

Good point!  If radiation mutates a Pokemon's DNA enough to change their typing, then it only makes sense (from a scientific standpoint) that said mutation would be hereditary.

Then again, one could also argue that radiation exposure also runs the risk of sterilization, so... either way, I don't think the breeding portion is ever going to make complete logical sense anyway. Rolleyes

Going back to Epsilon a moment... didn't Cameron say that the radiation had mostly dissipated from the island over the past ten years?  (Let's ignore the fact that this is highly unrealistic in the first place)  If the radiation had, in fact, gone away, shouldn't the Pokemon have eventually lost their Nuclear typing and/or had a portion of them die off to where there wouldn't be nearly as many Nuclear-types as there are now?  The fact that the island is COMPLETELY overrun with Nuclear Pokemon ten years later seems to suggest that they've been breeding... unless each and every one of the Pokemon you encounter had been there since the time of the first accident.
While the land might be slowly becoming clean, the Pokémon affected by the radiation are not. Once enough radiation gets to them, they are permanently part Nuclear type, even if a Hazma cleans them up, producing and leaking radiation as they go along. This is why Kellyn and the Ranger had to repel them after the 2nd Nuclear disaster, since if they got past them, they would just spread the radiation across the land. And while I give it that they may be breeding in the wild, no one in there right mind would breed feral or partially irradiated Pokémon (ignoring Nucleon and the other stable Nucs).

Which also raises a question... if the Nuclear-types irradiate the ground as they go (and I definitely had a "wait WTF???" moment when Kellyn said this during the Route 11 quest), then it makes absolutely NO sense that Cameron would have deemed the island at Epsilon to be radiation-free.  I actually theorized in-fic as I was writing it that maybe only the newly-irradiated Pokemon had the ability to do that, but I'm not sure how logistically sound that reasoning is... Huh



(10-21-2016, 10:12 AM)CooltrainerHerb Wrote:
(10-20-2016, 08:19 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: ... while I give it that they may be breeding in the wild, no one in there [sic] right mind would breed feral or partially irradiated Pokémon (ignoring Nucleon and the other stable Nucs).

Are you insinuating that I might be sane? That's laughable.

I think there's enough people on this forum insane enough to breed them given the ability to do so... I might actually be one of them! Tongue
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Given the sheer amount of time that Breezards go through to not only get 1 perfect IV pokemon, but ALL of them, maybe I am overestimating their sanity. Carry on then, with the mad science~!
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(10-21-2016, 12:18 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Given the sheer amount of time that Breezards go through to not only get 1 perfect IV pokemon, but ALL of them, maybe I am overestimating their sanity. Carry on then, with the mad science~!

We're not THAT crazy, honestly  Wink Blush  Angel


Well, maybe @Aiden is, he IS trying to breed 6IVs one by one according to dex entry number, he bred a 6IVs Comite recently... I'm not THAT insane yet... I'm sticking to gender breeding where chain breeding is possible... for now  Cool
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A six IV Comite?! Bloody hell, they must have lost some hair in their attempts! By the way, what are your thoughts on nuclear breeding? For or against it?
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(10-21-2016, 12:30 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: A six IV Comite?! Bloody hell, they must have lost some hair in their attempts! By the way, what are your thoughts on nuclear breeding? For or against it?

Uh, I know you didn't ask me ditectly, but duhh... I watched this long enough... sorry if none gives a damn about my opinion.

So, to make it clear and short, contra unstable nuclear offspring, pro stable nuclear offspring. It's that simple. Headcanon: Breeding more stable Nukemon is currently considered illegal and will be punished by disciplinary measures by the facility in my Post-Uranium-RP.
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#20
Well said and put, Phantom. Lines up with the well with the given story, and conveniently prevent overpowered Nuclearmons from being breed for Competitive!
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