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11-09-2016, 12:30 PM
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(11-06-2016, 08:19 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: -Moody Splendifowl (will likely be banned tho cuz Smogon  )
Let's agree on a dresagree, Moody had to be ban on the main game 'cause you can build an entire team of mon that use it, and with 6 moody mon : you are sur to have what it takes to face roll the opponent team... in uranium, Splendifowl is the only one who can have this ability.
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Mega Metalynx
--- The grass starter of Tandor, a grass/ Steel menace that walls everything to Kanto and back. With incredible dual defenses and one of the best defensive typings of all time, "Wall" barely does this thing justice, especially with its massive attack stat and good movepool.
Common sets: Specially or Physically defensive Tanks. Usually runs Leaf Blade, Knock Off, and then coverage moves such as Earthquake and Swords Dance.
Strategy against it: It has low speed and 3x (Heatproof) weakness to fire, so you can do something with that.
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heatproof decrease fire damages to x2 (not x3) and burning to 1/16 per turn.
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Most of the images in you list are not loading up to my computer. I'm not sure whether or not its just me, but maybe you should look into that.
Also, where would Navighast, Chainite, M-Dramsama, and Coaltih be it this tier listing? I'm curious to see what your opinion are on them...
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(11-09-2016, 05:09 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Most of the images in you list are not loading up to my computer. I'm not sure whether or not its just me, but maybe you should look into that.
Also, where would Navighast, Chainite, M-Dramsama, and Coaltih be it this tier listing? I'm curious to see what your opinion are on them...
The pokemon images in the first post load for me, if that's what you're talking about.
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(11-09-2016, 05:36 PM)Iron Wrote: (11-09-2016, 05:09 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Most of the images in you list are not loading up to my computer. I'm not sure whether or not its just me, but maybe you should look into that.
Also, where would Navighast, Chainite, M-Dramsama, and Coaltih be it this tier listing? I'm curious to see what your opinion are on them...
The pokemon images in the first post load for me, if that's what you're talking about.
Welp, I guess its on my side then. Carry on~!
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(11-09-2016, 05:09 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Most of the images in you list are not loading up to my computer. I'm not sure whether or not its just me, but maybe you should look into that.
Also, where would Navighast, Chainite, M-Dramsama, and Coaltih be it this tier listing? I'm curious to see what your opinion are on them...
Are you on your ipad? Images never load on my ipad, but they do on my computer. Idk.
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On my computer, mate. Must be the network being screwy, or something. Anyhow, I would love to hear more from you. You have good ideas, if they are a bit aggressive at times.
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(11-09-2016, 08:23 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: On my computer, mate. Must be the network being screwy, or something. Anyhow, I would love to hear more from you. You have good ideas, if they are a bit aggressive at times.
IDK I see the sprites fine... We'll battle someday and have a good time about it. And as always, if you have anything to add here, comment away.
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(11-09-2016, 12:30 PM)Scurra Wrote: (11-06-2016, 08:19 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: -Moody Splendifowl (will likely be banned tho cuz Smogon )
Let's agree on a dresagree, Moody had to be ban on the main game 'cause you can build an entire team of mon that use it, and with 6 moody mon : you are sur to have what it takes to face roll the opponent team... in uranium, Splendifowl is the only one who can have this ability. The point with Moody is not due to the full team aspect, but rather, its ability to raise evasion and defenses and power all at a steady rate given enough time. Stall long enough with the right boosts at the start, and you'd be unstoppable regardless of what kind of moody pokemon you were using.
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(11-10-2016, 12:16 AM)Dragonstrike Wrote: (11-09-2016, 12:30 PM)Scurra Wrote: (11-06-2016, 08:19 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: -Moody Splendifowl (will likely be banned tho cuz Smogon )
Let's agree on a dresagree, Moody had to be ban on the main game 'cause you can build an entire team of mon that use it, and with 6 moody mon : you are sur to have what it takes to face roll the opponent team... in uranium, Splendifowl is the only one who can have this ability. The point with Moody is not due to the full team aspect, but rather, its ability to raise evasion and defenses and power all at a steady rate given enough time. Stall long enough with the right boosts at the start, and you'd be unstoppable regardless of what kind of moody pokemon you were using.
Seconded because that's exactly the reason. It got even worse with baton pass thrown in...
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11-15-2016, 07:41 PM
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Actually, Moody was banned because it was uncompetitive, not because it was overpowered or because there existed more than one Pokemon with it.
One of Smogon's frameworks for tiering is to make the metagame as competitive as feasibly possible, which essentially boils down to facilitating an environment in which a worse player does not have access to strategies which allow them to beat a better player through luck. This is why Double Team and Minimize are banned.
Moody is uncompetitive because it is incredibly luck-based. Using Moody requires almost no skill and amounts to hoping you get Evasion boosts in order to eventually luck your way to victory. This aspect of the game was deemed uncompetitive and counterproductive to a healthy metagame by Smogon, which is why it was banned.
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