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(09-03-2017, 05:36 PM)Iron Wrote: Stop using "my character would do it" as an excuse. I try to compromise with you to let you act protective, but YOU, Lord Windos, know that you are making the situation worse for Nathan right now. And that's not fun. Everything else is just hooey.
I want you to keep this in mind from now on. This is a game of teamwork. It's ridiculous to make the GM micromanage everything Ventus does just to let other players have a chance to succeed in their goals. I've said it before and I'll say it once again - if Ventus can't play the game of teamwork, then he can't play at all.
(09-03-2017, 05:26 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: , and therefore being unable to 'help' Nathan out at all and doing what Iron accuses me of deliberately undermine Dragonstrike's efforts, when I honestly don't want to do anything of the sort. *Sigh* I just trying to play the game you set out for me, not actively ruin it for others guys...
This is hooey. It doesn't help Nathan or Dragonstrike to harass the Absol. You even went so far as to cripple your own character ("I'm too caught up in the moment to use my empathy") just so you'd have the chance. Why??? That doesn't contribute to the story. It doesn't achieve your own character's goals. If you wanted to be protective, you'd go along and help him out with what he's trying to do when the chance arises. I don't get it. It's become a running theme for Ventus to do something everyone else hates, after a long and tangled justification for how it's what your character would do. Half the time you'll outright harm people just to have the chance to try to help them, like when you threatened to fight the party over killing the Rattata.
Not to mention we all agreed during that Rattata encounter to keep party conflict to a minimum, for the sake of everyone's fun!
Do you see why this is a problem? If not, Ventus cannot be a player character in this campaign. I don't know how much more plainly I can put it. Sorry.
Fair enough, Iron. I'll just delete my post, and instead have Ventus stop and head back to Ginger Town then after realizing he can't reasonably catch up to Nathan. You raise pertinent and good points on the matter, and that if everyone else is saying that my actions with my character are wrong/unjustifiable, then I must stop and rethink my actions. I also now see why you are fed up with character's actions up until this point, since he's been going against one of your core idea of the type of game you laid out, and that you just don't want to deal with Ventus being plain contrary . I'll keep in mind this conversation, and plan my future actions with my character accordingly so that this hopefully doesn't happen again. I let myself and my character get out of hand once again, and tried to repeatidly come up with poor excuses to cover my ass when things start to not go the way I planed. I apologize for this guys, and I promise this will be the last time this happens, no matter what else happens in this campaign.
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Thank you very much, Windos. I admire your ability to apologize and adapt.
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That's highly appreciated from me as well! *tacklehugs her love* Thank you. Really. For one moment, I was overly scared....
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(09-03-2017, 05:58 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: (09-03-2017, 05:36 PM)Iron Wrote: Stop using "my character would do it" as an excuse. I try to compromise with you to let you act protective, but YOU, Lord Windos, know that you are making the situation worse for Nathan right now. And that's not fun. Everything else is just hooey.
I want you to keep this in mind from now on. This is a game of teamwork. It's ridiculous to make the GM micromanage everything Ventus does just to let other players have a chance to succeed in their goals. I've said it before and I'll say it once again - if Ventus can't play the game of teamwork, then he can't play at all.
(09-03-2017, 05:26 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: , and therefore being unable to 'help' Nathan out at all and doing what Iron accuses me of deliberately undermine Dragonstrike's efforts, when I honestly don't want to do anything of the sort. *Sigh* I just trying to play the game you set out for me, not actively ruin it for others guys...
This is hooey. It doesn't help Nathan or Dragonstrike to harass the Absol. You even went so far as to cripple your own character ("I'm too caught up in the moment to use my empathy") just so you'd have the chance. Why??? That doesn't contribute to the story. It doesn't achieve your own character's goals. If you wanted to be protective, you'd go along and help him out with what he's trying to do when the chance arises. I don't get it. It's become a running theme for Ventus to do something everyone else hates, after a long and tangled justification for how it's what your character would do. Half the time you'll outright harm people just to have the chance to try to help them, like when you threatened to fight the party over killing the Rattata.
Not to mention we all agreed during that Rattata encounter to keep party conflict to a minimum, for the sake of everyone's fun!
Do you see why this is a problem? If not, Ventus cannot be a player character in this campaign. I don't know how much more plainly I can put it. Sorry.
Fair enough, Iron. I'll just delete my post, and instead have Ventus stop and head back to Ginger Town then after realizing he can't reasonably catch up to Nathan. You raise pertinent and good points on the matter, and that if everyone else is saying that my actions with my character are wrong/unjustifiable, then I must stop and rethink my actions. I also now see why you are fed up with character's actions up until this point, since he's been going against one of your core idea of the type of game you laid out, and that you just don't want to deal with Ventus being plain contrary . I'll keep in mind this conversation, and plan my future actions with my character accordingly so that this hopefully doesn't happen again. I let myself and my character get out of hand once again, and tried to repeatidly come up with poor excuses to cover my ass when things start to not go the way I planed. I apologize for this guys, and I promise this will be the last time this happens, no matter what else happens in this campaign.
Its okay sometimes you interpretate your character, but you cant forget to let your friends and companions have the chance to have fun too. For example: My character Arial its a maniac, misontropic and everything, but I must keep in mind to have a difference about interpretate the character and use wise choices to continue the story without damage the others players. This is something I learn when I play your roleplay.
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(09-03-2017, 06:00 PM)Iron Wrote: Thank you very much, Windos. I admire your ability to apologize and adapt.
*Sigh* Its an acquired skill, mate. Sorry for the grief I put you through this, but I suppose I have the bad tendacy to have fun at other people's expense in online settings. I'll keep this event and conversation in mind, so that I can try and NOT do this again.
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Going to dinner right now, but since I deleted my post, continue on with the game while I am gone. I'll have me new post out in due time, guys.
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No problem friend. Also Iroh, whats is channel? In pokerole I mean. Since Phantump Leech Seed is Dexterity + Fight + Channel -1. Dexterity in character is 2, Fight 2 too, and channel I dont know well.
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09-03-2017, 06:18 PM
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I have to prepare for bed then and go offline as well, actually. However, @ Iron, since Windos stated he'll have Ventus head back to the Center if I remember the deleted post correctly... Depending on what he will do there and how long it takes for Nathan to resolve Special Absol, if is doable that Shiva encounters him as the first person of the group? I doubt Ven will be okay since he 'failed to protect Nathan from possible harm' in his in-character view PLUS Nathan will not be happy with him either way when he meets him, so it'd be better if she's there to possibly subdue the situation or just be there for him. No need to punish Windos any more than necessary by forcing him to deal with enraged Nathan, you see.
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(09-03-2017, 06:14 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Also Iron, whats is channel? In pokerole I mean.
Channel is actually among my favorite Specialities! It describes how well one is able to, well, canalize the energies used in a move. Specialities start at 0 and are used in Accuracy Rolls, which one is stated in the description of the move itself.
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Oh, you also did the calculations for multiple actions wrong. :/
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