[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Ah, all that pondring over things worth nothing... I'm honest when I say that I pretty much dislike being soft-excluded in a thing that Shiva actually has something to say as well (like, you people could have paused at some point...), but so be it then...

I'll still bring up things to Ven at least, but first I'll get something to eat, so please STILL hold on until then and leave the Tangrowth live.

[Spiritmon]

Well looking for strategy side, leave the Tangrowth alive might help us to find the place where he come. And perhaps the location from that Cladydoll.

[Lord Windos]

Well, we know Nathan Drake its not the most social person in the world.

Yeap, given that he managed to eventually alienate even VENTUS, the most tolerate and accepting of other people (Even if they are magical fae, to a certain extent/special circumstances) by a large margin. All my character wanted was for them to at least acknowledge that Pokecide over capturing them/leaving them to the league is not an unreasonable option, even if he doesn't agree with it. Its one of the reason why my character offered the boy a choice to begin with, as he wanted to at least force them to actually contemplate it , instead of rejecting it with (to Ventus) weak logic.

He doesn't want other to accept/ always agree his way of thinking (Heavens no, he's aware that is baaaaad), but he at least want others to consider it valid, if highly contentious, and be open minded to doing things his way if its called for. Its a stretch, yes, but after all they have been through, done together, and the time traveled....

[Lord Windos]

I'll still bring up things to Ven at least, but first I'll get something to eat, so please STILL hold on until then and leave the Tangrowth live.

Dear, Ventus isn't going to kill them period, so don't worry about that!

[Spiritmon]

Well, that is kinda complicated. Nathan is quite a hard head. Reason with him doesnt work very much. Even Ventus say that to Heart when they are in disagrement. That side of Nathan was already a problem before Heart came? And if is, is getting worse or not?

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Okay, @Lord Windos, I'm still sour, but I'll let things be and adapt. So, would it be rather helpful or would it make things worse for Ven is Shiva come back and fails to hold any tears back? Because from the scene and seeing Nathan leave in a feeling like things have gone ugly, I feel like she'd do.

[Dragonstrike]

Well, that is kinda complicated. Nathan is quite a hard head. Reason with him doesnt work very much. Even Ventus say that to Heart when they are in disagrement. That side of Nathan was already a problem before Heart came? And if is, is getting worse or not?

Nathan's always been like this.  Ventus just brings out the worst side of it because his moral alignment is the complete opposite of Nathan's.  The problem's been present since our first visit to Ginger Town.  It's not really been getting worse so much as there's been nothing keeping it reliably in check.  Kirlia didn't stop Nathan this time because Ventus said something that offended Nathan, and it happened too quickly for Shiva to really have any time to say her piece.

Not to say Nathan isn't capable of much the same things as Ventus, you just have to REALLY anger him to get him to do something he considers so unacceptable (doing lethal damage to Kirlia is almost certain to get him there, but he can still be convinced to back down potentially even then.)  Nathan's also saving the bulk of his ire for something a little more specific than a random wild pokemon...

[Dragonstrike]

Okay, @Lord Windos, I'm still sour, but I'll let things be and adapt. So, would it be rather helpful or would it make things worse for Ven is Shiva come back and fails to hold any tears back? Because from the scene and seeing Nathan leave in a feeling like things have gone ugly, I feel like she'd do.

Nathan's still in the area currently.  Someone has to tell the League what's going on with these vines, after all.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Nathan's always been like this.  Ventus just brings out the worst side of it because his moral alignment is the complete opposite of Nathan's.  The problem's been present since our first visit to Ginger Town

If that is how it is, I feel we rather quickly wouldn't have much of a functioning group is Shiva wouldn't be there to bring peace, balance and some sort of...normality to the group as well as aid FOR BOTH Nathan and Ventus when things are bad. Dunno how you, @Iron, see this as GM, but that's the way I began to see it.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Nathan's still in the area currently.  Someone has to tell the League what's going on with these vines, after all.

Well, too bad that she'll go for Ventus directly because she knows that he has been trying to adapt and back off to let Nathan have his way already in the past, while he himself decided to stay stubborn. It's nothing against Nathan himself, but this is the way it'll be.