[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Thank you. Really, thank you... *hugs you kindly*

It's a weird thing with Shiva, Windos. She'll literally and figuratively survive Ven leaving with enough help to cope with it via her loyal Pokemon and seeing a doctor to help her getting along. She will have big problems to get over it though, as Nathan is with her on the journey through the region - he who drove an for her important person away. That's why she might honestly consider to screw everything and follow Ventus... And I certainly don't want to play a different chara than Shiva.

[Iron]

I don't like the idea of temporary characters, but I do want Windos to have fun.

Want to work together on a believable, complex character change?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey - no one journeys unchanged.

The plots already in motion have a lot of potential to alter Ventus' opinions in whatever ways Windos chooses. We could resolve some of his hangups, give him opportunities to see the POV of other characters, and Windos could direct a gradual change toward a character who meshes better, while still keeping the traits Windos and the other players are enjoying.

I have a lot of ideas on this matter if it's something you'd like to discuss.

If you need a new character I will allow it.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

The plots already in motion have a lot of potential to alter Ventus' opinions in whatever ways Windos chooses. We could resolve some of his hangups, give him opportunities to see the POV of other characters, and Windos could direct a gradual change toward a character who meshes better, while still keeping the traits Windos and the other players are enjoying.

This sounds very nice, what do you think about that, Windos? Otherwise, 'not friends, but...you know the rest', which neither me and Shiva have too much of an issue with.

[Dragonstrike]

I have a decent amount planned for how Nathan's going to 'change' during this journey, just so you know, @Lord Windos.  This upcoming attempt at compromise with Ventus after Nathan has accidentally taken it too far is one step in that direction.  Nathan's method of handling Pinsir if it's at the Shelter is another.  And expect him to be rather...different around Almanac when we start getting into that portion of the plot.  How much we see of that side of Nathan is going to be fairly dependent how well everyone else keeps him in check when it rears its ugly head.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Do also keep in mind that Shiva has a neutral viewpoint about the Almanac aside from her desire to help bringing them down with Infiltrator-Absol to prove herself.

[Lord Windos]

The plots already in motion have a lot of potential to alter Ventus' opinions in whatever ways Windos chooses. We could resolve some of his hangups, give him opportunities to see the POV of other characters, and Windos could direct a gradual change toward a character who meshes better, while still keeping the traits Windos and the other players are enjoying.

This sounds very nice, what do you think about that, Windos? Otherwise, 'not friends, but...you know the rest', which neither me and Shiva have too much of an issue with.

Fine with that, and just got finished asking for Iron's advice via PM and sending him the first draft of my second character's backstory for him to review, just in case he's needed. Hopefully I can get all the help possible, as Ven needs it if things continue to be rough going for them!

I have a decent amount planned for how Nathan's going to 'change' during this journey, just so you know, @Lord Windos.  This upcoming attempt at compromise with Ventus after Nathan has accidentally taken it too far is one step in that direction.  Nathan's method of handling Pinsir if it's at the Shelter is another.  And expect him to be rather...different around Almanac when we start getting into that portion of the plot.  How much we see of that side of Nathan is going to be fairly dependent how well everyone else keeps him in check when it rears its ugly head.

Duly noted, and I'll keep that in mind for the future when it comes time for Nate to have another go at making it up to Ven. Also, Ven would most likely encourage any ruthless behavior in your character, as it show (to him) positive signs that you are more than willing to let go of principles if it means stopping a great evil!

Ven's viewpoint on them is decidily negative, as what he's heard and seen of their activity leaves a lot to be desired, especially since he consider himself to be a credible, respectable Pokémon Researcher in his own right. Taking them all the way down the hierarchy would be rather nice, in both his and mine eyes!

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Hopefully I can get all the help possible, as Ven needs it if things continue to be rough going for them!

You know that Shiva has your back unless Ven hurts her on full purpose. Besides, when do you think Ven will be free to be introduced to her father? Shiva will video-call him anyway when she can find the muse and time to do so during stay in Stair, probably soon after having met up with Professor Quickbeam concerning that Pancham. Could also be interesting to call him after having known of Delta Houndour, as he certainly will notice that his daughter is not doing too well but pleased to hear that she has her own Pokemon and a young man with orange hair to help her cope.

[Lord Windos]

Hopefully I can get all the help possible, as Ven needs it if things continue to be rough going for them!

You know that Shiva has your back unless Ven hurts her on full purpose. Besides, when do you think Ven will be free to be introduced to her father? Shiva will video-call him anyway when she can find the muse and time to do so during stay in Stair, probably soon after having met up with Professor Quickbeam concerning that Pancham. Could also be interesting to call him after having known of Delta Houndour, as he certainly will notice that his daughter is not doing too well but pleased to hear that she has her own Pokemon and a young man with orange hair to help her cope.

He's pretty much free all day long since he set it aside to spend it just with you, so having the conversation today would be the most optimal time before he wanders off to do his own thing in this great big city, either battling, making money, or both!

[Dragonstrike]

Duly noted, and I'll keep that in mind for the future when it comes time for Nate to have another go at making it up to Ven. Also, Ven would most likely encourage any ruthless behavior in your character, as it show (to him) positive signs that you are more than willing to let go of principles if it means stopping a great evil!

Trust me, when Nathan gets to that point, he doesn't need any encouragement.  His morals go out the window for the most part when his life and the lives of his pokemon (particularly Kirlia's) are obviously on the line.

[Dragonstrike]

So, you guys finally ready to 'meet' Dagny?  I'll probably provide a little bit of the information on her when Nathan meets her for the OOC benefit of knowing why Ventus will absolutely love meeting her...in fact, Iron even mentioned the first part already: she's pretty easy to anger if you say the exact wrong thing...and you don't want to make a gym leader angry.