[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Dragonstrike]

....I have a question Iron: Is it possible to both Poison AND Badly Poison a target at the same time, since they are technically considered different Status and they stack in this game. Logically it would also make sense, as multiple different deadly chemicals can still act on a body in unequal but still severe ways. If that's true, then its suddenly a viable strategy to Acid Spray a target, then Poison Fang and Poison Sting a target until its both Poisoned and Badly Poisoned, which means a target loses 1-2 HP per round garenteed, no saves what so ever. If I ALSO got the Rocky Helmet and swapped it with the Necklace, then if the opponent uses Physical Attacks a lot then they would lose up to 3 HP per round, and that is not even considering SE damage or actual damage rolls! With it....well, I think Apsis has become quite the fighter by now, yes?

That's also not considering the fact that a Rocky Helmet might do damage multiple times per round if you're lucky.  It triggers every time the foe makes contact, but you have to roll for the damage. (see what happens when a pokemon uses Fury Attack or similar against a pokemon with Rough Skin/Iron Barbs or a Rocky Helmet in the games.  Blegh.  Mega Kangaskhan hates pokemon that use both the ability and the item, too.  Well, in the games, that is.  Parental Bond isn't quite as OP in base pokerole, thankfully.)

And if Poison and Badly Poison stack, I think their checks might still be separate. (so a -2 check for Poison, then a -2/4/6 check for Badly Poisoned)

So Badly Poison would still be the only 'guaranteed damage' if that's the case.

I still say Burn 3 is scarier.  3 lethal damage at the end of every round with a -6 Vitality penalty for the check, which means you can never save against its damage in our campaigns...*shudder*...

[Lord Windos]

That's also not considering the fact that a Rocky Helmet might do damage multiple times per round if you're lucky.  It triggers every time the foe makes contact, but you have to roll for the damage. (see what happens when a pokemon uses Fury Attack or similar against a pokemon with Rough Skin/Iron Barbs or a Rocky Helmet in the games.  Blegh.  Mega Kangaskhan hates pokemon that use both the ability and the item, too.  Well, in the games, that is.  Parental Bond isn't quite as OP in base pokerole, thankfully.)

And if Poison and Badly Poison stack, I think their checks might still be separate. (so a -2 check for Poison, then a -2/4/6 check for Badly Poisoned)

So Badly Poison would still be the only 'guaranteed damage' if that's the case.

I still say Burn 3 is scarier.  3 lethal damage at the end of every round with a -6 Vitality penalty for the check, which means you can never save against its damage in our campaigns...*shudder*...

Oh no, I completely agree with you, nothing beats Burn 3 in terms of Worst Status to be Inflicted Upon You/Your Enemies, but considering that Poison Damage + Rocky Helmet Chip Damage per hit isn't auto Lethal, it can actually employed in regular battles without the authorities being called in. Sure, most trainers will consider you the scum of the earth for employ the Triple Poison (Acid Spray weakens, not kills!) Plan on them, disregard the Rocky Helmet entirely, but at the very least you don't have to worry about Lethally killing their poor Pokémon regardless of holding back on Inferno! Well, unless they are far from a Poke center and don't have Antidotes. In which case, they are equally fucked!

That actually begs the question now: If a trainer's Pokémon dies from Poison Damage from another's Trainer's Pokémon, is that other trainer held accountable for the death, is it the fault of the dead Pokémon's Trainer for negligence/lack of quick response, neither, or both?

[Dragonstrike]

That actually begs the question now: If a trainer's Pokémon dies from Poison Damage from another's Trainer's Pokémon, is that other trainer held accountable for the death, is it the fault of the dead Pokémon's Trainer for negligence/lack of quick response, neither, or both?

Probably the other trainer's fault in that case.  The pokemon is your responsibility, after all.  I imagine trainers that like using moves that inflict Poison carry an excess of Antidotes, just in case.

Burn 1 can fall in this category pretty easily too.  Nathan might have to start carrying around more Burn Heals as safety precautions...though they're far more costly than Antidotes are...

Though I also have to wonder: is it possible to Hold Back to make Burn 2 and Burn 3 non-lethal (or does that weaken them to just being a Burn 1)?  I doubt you can Hold Back to avoid inflicting a status (Poison Sting still has poison in it, fire still burns, etc), but from how Iron phrased the orders for that Vulpix in the Little 4v4, it seems to imply that something like that can be done in this campaign (I.E. intentionally not setting as much of your target on fire)

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Suprise, I guess? Like, I don't think that anyone could have seriously thought about Shiva obtaining a 'Pokedex' from the Almanac. Neatly called simply 'Almanac'.

That's her own though, and she stays at using it only for the scientific information on the Pokemon (as she has her cell for calls and messages) and checking on eggs as the 'Dex' lacks any other features at the moment. I'm undisclosed whether it shall be revealed to the party at all or not, but for now I'd say no as it's not causing a conflict right now. Not that Shiva would care about any objections on this matter anyway.

[Dragonstrike]

Suprise, I guess? Like, I don't think that anyone could have seriously thought about Shiva obtaining a 'Pokedex' from the Almanac. Neatly called simply 'Almanac'.

That's her own though, and she stays at using it only for the scientific information on the Pokemon (as she has her cell for calls and messages) and checking on eggs as the 'Dex' lacks any other features at the moment. I'm undisclosed whether it shall be revealed to the party at all or not, but for now I'd say no as it's not causing a conflict right now. Not that Shiva would care about any objections on this matter anyway.

Well, as long as Shiva's not actually buying it, Nathan will have no real objections.  But Shiva better be careful with what she quotes from the Almanac.  Those descriptions are not very tasteful...

Funny story: I was considering doing the same for Nathan.  Decided against it though since he wouldn't want to look at that info himself all the dang time.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

To make it clear, Shiva already bought and paid for an Almanac. It's not like she shares what she reads in there anyway unless there is a real good reason to do so.

[Dragonstrike]

Ah.  Well then...

Yeah, don't tell Nathan about that right now.  And hope Kirlia doesn't catch on either.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

And hope Kirlia doesn't catch on either.

Shiva is skillfull enough to not give any hints on her emotion pool that might lead to suspiciousness. It's not 'blocking her mind' as that may lead to this suspiciousness, but rather 'I'm fine with owning this Almanac, now go on'

[Lord Windos]

I'm more worried about how badly Shiva will react to Orthros myself, personally, as her having the Almanac does not affect us in anyway if she chooses not to reveal it, but the Delta Houndour is quite the opposite in that regard. I pray that things don't turn out to disasterous from that meeting...

[Dragonstrike]

I'm more worried about how badly Shiva will react to Orthros myself, personally, as her having the Almanac does not affect us in anyway if she chooses not to reveal it, but the Delta Houndour is quite the opposite in that regard. I pray that things don't turn out to disasterous from that meeting...

I'm just counting it as a good thing that Nathan left the department store's interior before Shiva could run into him on the Almanac floor.  Nathan and Kirlia would not be happy to find out that Shiva actually bought one of Almanac's products. :/

And it's exactly because Orthros affects everyone that I've been trying to get this to go as smoothly as possible.  And I'm going to be so, so happy the day that Nathan and Orthros prove Ventus wrong once and for all...