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(11-09-2017, 05:29 PM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote: As long as this doesn't degenerates into calling one another names and, as said, you people can still work together when needed plus Ventus leds Shiva be there for Nathan anyway, I'm very fine with this... No more moral conflicts between those two.
He won't do such things, as its beneath him and he thinks that Nathan is not worth even that much effort at this point, so open violence isn't going to start unless either of our character do something that provokes the other. Moral conflicts can't happen if each side considers the other wrong and refuses to talk or understand each other, in the end.
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(11-09-2017, 05:22 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: (11-09-2017, 05:17 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: Something which is going to be completely one-sided. Nathan's not the one with issues here, and he's just done with arguing about this with Ventus. If Ventus wants to push the issue, he'll respond, but that's the only time he'll say anything on the matter. Period.
If that is the way you want to handle the matter, then so be it. Ventus ain't giving him the time of day, much less anything but distled animosity for this past few days events. If anything, Nathan more or less have justified and proved that he is not good friend material, and that he was much better off for casting away his fetters for them after that fateful battle with the Tangrowth. Only thing keeping Ventus in the party at this point is Shiva (and maybe Heart) and OOC reasons, so keep that in mind...
(11-09-2017, 05:28 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Let it go the dinner mood Heart try to make....damn, why Nathan is a jerk almost everytime?
(11-09-2017, 05:29 PM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote: As long as this doesn't degenerates into calling one another names and, as said, you people can still work together when needed plus Ventus leds Shiva be there for Nathan anyway, I'm very fine with this... No more moral conflicts between those two.
That's a bit harsh, Spirit. Nathan's not a jerk.
And if it wasn't clear, I was only referring to Nathan not starting conversations where Orthros is concerned. Plus, Ventus should probably wait to hear Shiva's side of things before he goes and condemns Nathan with assumptions.
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(11-09-2017, 05:35 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: That's a bit harsh, Spirit. Nathan's not a jerk.
And if it wasn't clear, I was only referring to Nathan not starting conversations where Orthros is concerned. Plus, Ventus should probably wait to hear Shiva's side of things before he goes and condemns Nathan with assumptions.
He's right, they are not a jerk. He's a genuinely good person at heart, its just that he's very deadest of doing things his way, to hell or high water with anyone's opinions on the matter unless they pressure him REALLY hard.
At this point and seeing the state Shiva was left in after her conversation with Nathan and Orthros, he's not going to be charitable to them regardless of how Shiva describes events.
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This is a bit hard to believe if you ask me. He force both Shiva and Ventus to stressful Pokemon battle back in cheshire. Keep a dangerous pokemon with him without the word of a specialist, keep secrets from his friends, and give a battle to Shiva. If this is not actions of a jerk, I dont know what is.
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(11-09-2017, 05:46 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Keep a dangerous pokemon with him without the word of a specialist, keep secrets from his friends, and give a battle to Shiva. If this is not actions of a jerk, I dont know what is.
That 'dangerous' pokemon trusts him and only him fully, and he needed to keep it quiet until there was a 0% chance of any danger. Besides, it's not like it was, say, a disobedient Tyranitar or something. Houndour is far from the worst kind of disobedient pokemon.
The only secret Nathan has right now is Mesprit, and that one is purely out of necessity as well. Nathan HATES keeping unnecessary secrets, and he's terrible at keeping them too.
The battle was just as stressful for him as it was for them, you know.
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And I'm still not a fan of Heart eavesdropping on that conversation. That's not something you can just do at a whim, and those back rooms are private for a reason. It would take an extraordinary amount of effort to eavesdrop on that conversation, and it only gives Nathan more reason to view Heart as 'nosey' if he's found out.
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I guess that'll be @ Iron's call to decide. I agree that these back rooms are private, but otherwise I'm passing.
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Nathan did everything he could to lessen the impact Delta Houndour has on others. Everything else was the decision of Shiva and Ventus. There's no reason to consider Nathan a jerk in this.
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Going offline to get some work/dinner done, so don't expect me to be on until much later at night. Ventus is going to the Shelter first thing in the morning and work their with Shiva, after making sure she's ok. See you later!
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(11-09-2017, 06:07 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Going offline to get some work/dinner done, so don't expect me to be on until much later at night. Ventus is going to the Shelter first thing in the morning and work their with Shiva, after making sure she's ok. See you later!
I have a post in writting, Windos, and I'd like to have your reaction before the next day dawnes. Sorry people, this isn't over yet.
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