[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Dragonstrike]

Blasted 5 hours? Whoahw... Kudos on that!~ *hands well-earned soda* Good that we're playing by-post on a virtual game table, because I feel that on a real one this wouldn't be possible. (Or it would, if the group's playing a whole campaign over several sessions and the game's paused at a cliffhanger until the next meeting and not 'just' one self-contained scene every session?)
The words usually come to me more or less naturally when I have the spark of an idea/a sufficient picture of the scene. *shrugs*

That's also the reason why I'd please not have it near any devices Shiva owns if it can be avoided; namely her Almanac, cell and PC. I feel like her Electric rodents might enjoy this prankster though.

On a real table, I probably would have just said something, maybe with short pauses.  The hesitation would have been a lot more 'genuine' rather than 'contrived,' and it would definitely have moved faster because I would be able to respond to Kirlia's reactions in real time.  It only took me 5 hours because I definitely had 5 hours to try and figure out what to say, and I have a bad case of wanting to say things juuuust right whenever possible.  (Don't worry, Nathan's response to Kirlia's reaction definitely won't take 5 hours to type.  I'd like to keep things moving too, after all.)

I've got a specific purpose in mind for Rotom, and it has nothing to do with messing with the party.  Might be a consequence of having it around for a time, but Nathan's not going to be super pleased if it causes problems within the group.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

That's relieving to read and hear, thanks. (it having nothing to do with messing with the party, I mean)

[Spiritmon]

Spoiler

And that Pokémon battle show something: Iron Head is a little OP move in the Pokerole.

(Note: the following assumes all the dice used are fair, balanced dice that are not biased in any way)

Try Serene Grace boosted dedicated Flinching moves.  That's a barrel of fun.  3 dice is normally about a 42% chance of the effect procing.  5 dice give about a 60% chance: the same odds of getting a Serene Grace boosted Flinch in the main series games.

Or if you want some REAL fun, let's do Serene Grace Tri-Attack (which both the Togepi and Chansey lines can do because of XD and Gen 1 respectively).  Serene Grace adds +2 dice to the chance dice pools of all effects, not just doubles the overall odds of the effect procing.  Which means your 2 dice for each of the 3 statuses goes up to 4 dice per status.  Let's look at the odds of that.

With 2 dice, the odds of an effect procing is about 30%.
With 4, the odds become about 51%.
So each individual status has a fairly good chance of procing separate from each other.  But together...

So, with 6 chance dice, the odds of at least 1 of the 3 statuses procing is 67%
And with 12 total, that shoots up to about 89%.  Per use of the move. 

Of course, the odds of specific combinations of the statuses procing in a single use are lower. Still pretty crazy though.

But yeah.  Serene Grace boosted Tri Attack is busted.

This is also why Aspis holding the Necklace of Serenity is so scary, because the Elemental Fangs follow a similar pattern.  The odds of procing any effect with each of the fangs is:
-51% without Serene Grace (4 dice)
-77% with Serene Grace (8 dice)

And that's particularly fun with Ice Fang because that means it has a 77% chance to make your target lose their next action (though one of the causes makes them lose their whole turn...and the next few as well if they aren't thawed quickly), which is ridiculous.  That's worse than Serene Grace boosted Air Slash/Headbutt/Iron Head.

Oh, and then there's Smog/Poison Fang/Crush Claw/Fiery Dance/Rock Smash/Octazooka/Razor Shell (its chance of lowering defense got gimped HARD in base pokerole, though. Only 1 die for its defense lowering when it has a 50% chance to proc the effect in the games?  Really?) /Leaf Tornado/Charge Beam (I find it interesting that they didn't give it more than 5 chance dice, tbh, since it's the only move with a 70% chance of its effect triggering in the games)/Night Daze/ Seed Flare/Sacred Fire/Luster Purge/Mist Ball/Diamond Storm (the last two aren't listed in the book since they're Plot Device moves, but I imagine they would also have 4-5 chance dice for their effects since 40-50% chance effects are rather significant.)

With 7 dice in the pool, that's a...72% chance of the move's effect procing.
Oh, and 1 chance die is about a 17% chance of the effect procing, just so you know.

Fun Fact: I spotted a typo on Bulbapedia as well that said Powder Snow has a 50% chance of freezing the target(s) while staring at the Serene Grace wiki page.  Someone oughta fix that...

This data is quite impresive. Serene Grace is already powerfull in the games (even more in the competitive) but in pokerole can cause a huge mess in opponent strategy. I must remember to caugh a pokémon with serene Grace. Any sugestion?

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

I must remember to caugh a pokémon with serene Grace. Any sugestion?

Owten can has Serence Grace Ability!~ (Or Insomnia). Omnious Wind anyone?
Does Heart know about Tandor and its Pokemon? (Sorry if this has been asked already) They kept the meltdowns rather for themselves though, so knowing about them is probably not possible without a good explanation.

[Spiritmon]

Well, Heart is aware about Tandorian Pokémon. To resume everything Heart came to Bealbeach city in the exatcly day happen the meltdown and apearance of the Nuclear Pokémon. He even met a Nuclear Gyarados but he run away. But not before he receive a Nuclear Slash from behind by a Taanscoon nuclear. He survive but he have still a scar in his back. A pretty nasty one. So yeah, he have a trauma with Nuclear Pokémon so be careful If you a Nucleon in Heart presence.

[Spiritmon]

And a Ownten its a awesome Pokémon to add in the party.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Well, Heart is aware about Tandorian Pokémon. To resume everything Heart came to Bealbeach city in the exatcly day happen the meltdown and apearance of the Nuclear Pokémon. He even met a Nuclear Gyarados but he run away. But not before he receive a Nuclear Slash from behind by a Taanscoon nuclear. He survive but he have still a scar in his back. A pretty nasty one. So yeah, he have a trauma with Nuclear Pokémon so be careful If you a Nucleon in Heart presence.

Oh... I guess I'll note that for personal reference.
Haha, nope, I strongly doubt Shiva would get a desired Nucleon during the journey through Chreshire, for various reasons. That's something she could do/look into after settling down.

[Dragonstrike]

The odds of us finding Nuclear types during this campaign are miniscule, thankfully.

As far as Serene Grace users go, Togekiss are probably the best Serene Grace pokemon (that has it naturally, anyways).  Blissey and Dunsparce/Dunseraph aren't far behind.  And then aside from Eshouten, Jirachi, Sky form Shaymin, and Meloetta, the only other Serene Grace user is Sawsbuck (HA only), which doesn't usually use very many moves that benefit from the ability because it learns very, very few that would...

(fun fact: Sawsbuck can also use tri-attack using Nature Power in the games.  Needs to be in a building to do so (or a link battle in gen 6 and 7), but still pretty scary.)

(Fun fact 2: A Serene Grace user using Secret Power while in an overworld area with Snow/Ice in the games has a 60% chance of freezing the target, the highest possible chance of inflicting Freeze currently possible. Unfortuantely, you're usually facing Ice types when on that terrain...)

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Shaymin's Sky Form has Serene Grace too! *somewhere far away, Shiva aggressivly hugs a plush of its Land Form*

You know, I'm kinda wondering whether (in theory!) the Almanac is aware of Nuclear Type and produces alternatives to evolve an Eevee into a Nucleon. Like, they have artificial Megastones, Evostones and Anisseed+Almonds+Essential Oils with crazy side effects, so why not that as well? Their 'Dex' is so full of adds I've been told.

[Dragonstrike]

You know, I'm kinda wondering whether (in theory!) the Almanac is aware of Nuclear Type and produced alternatives to evolve an Eevee into a Nucleon. Like, they have artificial Megastones, Evostones and Anisseed+Almonds with crazy side effects, so why not that as well?

Who needs an alternative when all you have to do to eevee to evolve it into Nucleon is expose it to a large amount of nuclear radiation?  I don't think Almanac would have any problems with creating a portable nuclear reactor that can evolve eevee and potentially corrupt other pokemon if you're careless with it...not that Almanac would care about that second part.