This a room for non-competitive ideas/suggestions.

[TwistedLogic]

I was doing some thinking about Little Cup and ended up running into the Inflagetah problem once more. Flame Impact's has +2 priority, a good attacking type (which is STAB on all the Pokemon that can learn it), and an extremely high speed of the Pokemon that learn it. Together these make it very strong, but not unbeatable because it doesn't have the highest base power. What breaks these Flame Impact Pokemon is that they also get Belly Drum, which completely negates the damage issue, leaving us with a move that can't be outrun and hits all but one or two Pokemon with a guaranteed OHKO. It should be noted that the same could arguably be said for Extreme Speed, albeit to a lesser extent.

Now with all this in mind, there has been a lot of talk about banning Inflagetah because of this (including from me). However, there has also been a good deal of backlash to this idea, as people tend to be resistant to their favorite Pokemon being banned, understandably so. So, I thought of a compromise and would like to see what people think of it:

Instead of banning these Flame Impact Pokemon, why not ban having Flame Impact (and maybe Extreme Speed) and Belly Drum in the same set. I generally tend to be against super specific/situational bans like this, but I think this may be one of those cases where it's necessary. Thoughts?

[Lord Windos]

I was doing some thinking about Little Cup and ended up running into the Inflagetah problem once more. Flame Impact's has +2 priority, a good attacking type (which is STAB on all the Pokemon that can learn it), and an extremely high speed of the Pokemon that learn it. Together these make it very strong, but not unbeatable because it doesn't have the highest base power. What breaks these Flame Impact Pokemon is that they also get Belly Drum, which completely negates the damage issue, leaving us with a move that can't be outrun and hits all but one or two Pokemon with a guaranteed OHKO. It should be noted that the same could arguably be said for Extreme Speed, albeit to a lesser extent.

Now with all this in mind, there has been a lot of talk about banning Inflagetah because of this (including from me). However, there has also been a good deal of backlash to this idea, as people tend to be resistant to their favorite Pokemon being banned, understandably so. So, I thought of a compromise and would like to see what people think of it:

Instead of banning these Flame Impact Pokemon, why not ban having Flame Impact (and maybe Extreme Speed) and Belly Drum in the same set. I generally tend to be against super specific/situational bans like this, but I think this may be one of those cases where it's necessary. Thoughts?

I generally against these types of sets too, but this is probably the best compromise both sides can make in regards to the Bell Drum issue. Still, due to its rather polarizing affect it has on teams and even OU viability (a lot more Pokémon could enter the fray if they were not so Fire fragile. Man, is Tandor stacking the deck for Fire and Dark types...), it might still get hit with the banhammer. I don't use it myself, but I hate the thought of a Pokémon being relegated to oblivion....

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

I was doing some thinking about Little Cup and ended up running into the Inflagetah problem once more. Flame Impact's has +2 priority, a good attacking type (which is STAB on all the Pokemon that can learn it), and an extremely high speed of the Pokemon that learn it. Together these make it very strong, but not unbeatable because it doesn't have the highest base power. What breaks these Flame Impact Pokemon is that they also get Belly Drum, which completely negates the damage issue, leaving us with a move that can't be outrun and hits all but one or two Pokemon with a guaranteed OHKO. It should be noted that the same could arguably be said for Extreme Speed, albeit to a lesser extent.

Now with all this in mind, there has been a lot of talk about banning Inflagetah because of this (including from me). However, there has also been a good deal of backlash to this idea, as people tend to be resistant to their favorite Pokemon being banned, understandably so. So, I thought of a compromise and would like to see what people think of it:

Instead of banning these Flame Impact Pokemon, why not ban having Flame Impact (and maybe Extreme Speed) and Belly Drum in the same set. I generally tend to be against super specific/situational bans like this, but I think this may be one of those cases where it's necessary. Thoughts?

I generally against these types of sets too, but this is probably the best compromise both sides can make in regards to the Bell Drum issue. Still, due to its rather polarizing affect it has on teams and even OU viability (a lot more Pokémon could enter the fray if they were not so Fire fragile. Man, is Tandor stacking the deck for Fire and Dark types...), it might still get hit with the banhammer. I don't use it myself, but I hate the thought of a Pokémon being relegated to oblivion....

You two know that I also created a thread for competive suggestions, don't you? ^^;

[Lord Windos]

*Tranquilizes Phantom* Ahem, sorry for the interruption. Your thoughts?

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

*Tranquilizes Phantom* Ahem, sorry for the interruption. Your thoughts?

Thoughts? Which thoughts.... I mean, I have MANY thoughts, which one do you mean in particular...?

[Lord Windos]

Damn it, the tranqs are not working like I expected them too... Well, since your not asleep, what do you think of a built in feature to trade Pokémon between saves safely/efficiently? It would save a lot of time and grief not having to toy around in the Lobbies/GTS...

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Damn it, the tranqs are not working like I expected them too... Well, since your not asleep, what do you think of a built in feature to trade Pokémon between saves safely/efficiently? It would save a lot of time and grief not having to toy around in the Lobbies/GTS...

Oh. Uh... Hmm, given I havn't traded stuff from one save file to another yet (I already had enough laggs and restarts...), there's not that much I can say about that. But if that opportunity is introduced someday, I'll sure would use it. I don't think our devs would give this opportinity in the near future, though...

[TwistedLogic]

You two know that I also created a thread for competive suggestions, don't you? ^^;

I actually didn't know that! I mentioned my thoughts on the breeders' Discord, ace shrine suggested I mention it in the random ideas thread, so I did.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

You two know that I also created a thread for competive suggestions, don't you? ^^;

I actually didn't know that! I mentioned my thoughts on the breeders' Discord, ace shrine suggested I mention it in the random ideas thread, so I did.

Well then, now you know ^^ No problem though, not at all, it's just that I enjoy keeping some kind of order. Also known as keeping competitive ideas seperate from non-competitive ideas.

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EDIT: Changed the title of this thread to avoid further confusion.

[EeveeBailey]

Okay, here's a new suggestion... how adding a feature to GTS where you can make a direct trade between two players without having to be directly connected?

This would be great for allowing people to negotiate trades when they may be online at different times due to time zones, work schedules, etc.... and don't want the risk of someone else coming along and sniping the trade.