[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Spiritmon]

I have to agree with Windos and Phantom in this case Dragonstrike. Its not a good idea to force people to accept/agree the presence of a pokemon who they have bad experiences in the best. I know Nathan is just trying to make Orthros feel in home but instead of help, you are just pushing they friends back and make them feel uncofartble with the Deltamon presence. In the presence of Heart is there no problem since he already see the Deltamon and he have a fascination towards Deltamons. So it might be a good idea to put Ortros in the Pokeball in the presence of others instead of force others to accept a Deltamon presence.

[Lord Windos]

No, I and Ventus can accept Orthros being out of his ball around them/Shiva, as its unfair to force Dragonstrike/Nathan to keep Orthros balled up most of the time around those two AND both characters can tolerate it well enough (eventually in Ven's case). The sticking point is both our character fully accepting and liking Orthros, which in my opinion is a non-option for either of our characters at this point in time.

[Iron]

Doesn't matter. Everyone has the right to use whatever party of Pokemon they build. That right trumps in-character preferences.

This is a rule, not a suggestion.

Have fun roleplaying a little discomfort, or reminiscing over the horrors of Corsage Port, but this in-character bitterness over Orthros seems to have leaked out of character. It's pointless. Just shut up about it. Dragonstrike isn't doing it to piss you off, he's doing it because he wants the Deltamon on his team. He put the work in. Accept it.

[Iron]

No, I and Ventus can accept Orthros being out of his ball around them/Shiva, as its unfair to force Dragonstrike/Nathan to keep Orthros balled up most of the time around those two AND both characters can tolerate it well enough (eventually in Ven's case). The sticking point is both our character fully accepting and liking Orthros, which in my opinion is a non-option for either of our characters at this point in time.

This is the right compromise.

[Spiritmon]

Well in my part there is no problem for Heart since he like (a lot) Deltamons. He even say if someday he would caugh a Deltamon he would be a lot happy.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Have fun roleplaying a little discomfort, or reminiscing over the horrors of Corsage Port, but this in-character bitterness over Orthros seems to have leaked out of character. It's pointless. Just shut up about it. Dragonstrike isn't doing it to piss you off, he's doing it because he wants the Deltamon on his team. He put the work in. Accept it.

It IS pointless and I AM too getting tired of it and I AM willing to accept it, but Nathan just has to accept that even if in-chara having accepted the dog as part of his team, I don't want to work towards liking his Delta-Pokemon. I rather play the game and have my fun and keep that discomfort when around that dog, end of story.

[Lord Windos]

Doesn't matter. Everyone has the right to use whatever party of Pokemon they build. That right trumps in-character preferences.

This is a rule, not a suggestion.

Have fun roleplaying a little discomfort, or reminiscing over the horrors of Corsage Port, but this in-character bitterness over Orthros seems to have leaked out of character. It's pointless. Just shut up about it. Dragonstrike isn't doing it to piss you off, he's doing it because he wants the Deltamon on his team. He put the work in. Accept it.

@PhantomUnderYourDesk , @Dragonstrike , @Spiritmon , @Nylon

I accept your ruling on the matter, Iron.  I just want us to stop fighting over Orthros, and while I would have preferred the dog not being around since it could have saved us a whole lot of grief IC and OOC, I am content/fine if we all just agree to compromise on the issue (Like we already have shakely done so) as per the ruling, stick to it, and just stop bickering about it.

Personally, I don't care or hate Orthros, I'm just tired of it always being a point of contention between all of us that invariably causes problems IC or OOC, and its has long since became an unfun aspect of this game to deal with. Its part of the reason why I mention getting rid of Ventus so much, since if he's gone I don't have to scramble for way to accept Orthros while remaing IC or constantly be fighting about it with Nathan.

Please, I just want to play the game without this issue dictating my actions at every fricken turn, at least anymore than it already has....

[Dragonstrike]

Let me just be clear on a few things here:

- I never said anyone has to like Orthros during the course of the campaign.  I've been trying to get things to the point where I can actually USE the damn dog.  I would LIKE it if Shiva was a little friendlier towards the dog eventually, but I'm not saying that HAS to happen.

- Whenever Orthros is out, he's always been by Nathan.  And he's not been next to Shiva and Ventus.  He's not interpreting the 'keep the distance' as 'always keep the dog recalled whenever anyone else is around'.  That'd be silly.  He'd be recalled off and on all the dang time if that was the case.

I said Nathan was on the opposite side of the bonfire for a couple reasons, and that was one of them (don't know how Orthros ended up next to Shiva during the ritual, but eh.  Guess he wanted to run around because of how happy everything was).  I didn't have Nathan approach Shiva back in Arrowroot for that reason and a few others as well.  And considering Nathan was physically holding the dog, I don't see the issue with 'keeping him away' when the dog is perfectly happy with staying right there in Nathan's arms.

- Orthros is NEVER going to like Ventus the way things are now (Ventus has an amazing track record with fire types so far, doesn't he?  Out of the 5 in the party, 2 of them hate him basically for life, one of them is moderately ticked off at him, and the 4th just doesn't really think about things too deeply and just doesn't care [and that's of course the one Ventus owns].).  Why would Orthros like someone who murdered his kin without any remorse?  It's similar to why Braixen hates Ventus's guts (which is an issue Ventus, Braixen, and Shiva would have to work out faaaaarrrr down the line, because that's going to cause problems eventually for similar reasons to what's going on with Orthros.  Can't keep Braixen in his pokeball 99% of the time just because Ventus is almost always around.)

- Ignore Orthros all you like as Shiva and Ventus, but please don't burn ALL the bridges just because of the dog.  Nathan will interact just fine as long as you're leaving the dog alone (Orthros isn't really going to care too much for the most part, and he can progress past cowering from Ventus as long as Ventus isn't constantly threatening him), and Shiva can even let Kyuu (and maybe Yena) hang with Orthros as well.  And if you can progress it to being just baseline polite (saying hello and not much else and the like) instead of outright ignoring, great (this applies moreso to Shiva than Ventus.  The dog's more than happy to be friendly towards her).

- Nathan's only ever said more about Orthros if the topic is brought up by someone other than him.  I'm not trying to cause any problems, I'm just trying to use the damn dog, and everyone keeps giving me flak for it.  Shiva is even guilty of this in a small way, but Ventus is the big offender.

TLDR; Just let me use the damn dog.

Phew...there, I've said my piece.  PLEASE don't make me say it again.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Please leave the issue of my magical fox/future furry mage hating Ventus a thing between me and Windos, but otherwise agreed. I'm not quite sure whether Shiva is really fine to let her Espurr hang around with Orthros, we'll see. I'll leave this open.

[Dragonstrike]

Please leave the issue of my magical fox/future furry mage hating Ventus a thing between me and Windos, but otherwise agreed.

Not trying to get involved with it, just stating that it's a scarily similar issue to what's going on with Orthros.  Just leaving it at that.