[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Lord Windos]

@Lord Windos

Casually mentioning Pyroar and Charmeleon sounds like a good way to go.  I'll have Nathan meet Ventus and Shiva in the lobby again so he can tell them he's challenging Dagny for his first encounter slot.  As for returning Forthright and Starmie...well, guess that can be on the evening of Day 47 (dang simultaneous posting!).  Lemme just type something up moderately quickly here...

Alright, I'll kept that in mind! We'll have to put off Hidden Power Research and Water Base Research for a latter date in that case, but on the bright side Ven will attend their battle out of politeness and a willingness to support him in this despite still feeling rather cross/apathetic towards them due to Reasons. Guess we'll have to schedule that for tomorrow then!

'As for returning Forthright and Starmie...well, guess that can be on the evening of Day 47 (dang simultaneous posting!).  Lemme just type something up moderately quickly here...'

Oh, sorry about not commenting on that! I just saw that you deleted your post, and assumed you were going to take care of it yourself. I just wanted Ven to give you Starmie/Forthright right away, rather than delay you any....

[Spiritmon]

Spoiler

Thanks. Its kinda experience in real life. Only be friendly with someone who is friendly with you. If that person dont want your help, or not threat with you with the same friendship, then that person dont deserve to be called friend. I try to reflect that in my character in the campaigh, like part of my essence. And no need to worry about insulting or offenssive. Heart already see Nathan dont react or take actions even when insulting. Heart will not do anything.

Thing is, Nathan's been burned before.  Badly.  So he takes a similar approach, but it's more...extreme.  Heart's approaches haven't gone unnoticed, but it's the 'tough love' that Nathan's reacted negatively to, which is why he's giving Heart a particularly hard time.

He's reacted, but not positively.  Heart hasn't been helping because of the ways he's trying to 'help'.

Hence why Nathan's gone back to being angry with Heart in some fashion.

Then what you expect me to do? Talk with Nathan and apologize? Nope, knowing Nathan he will likely diminute Heart or ignore him. Heart its normally a understable guy, but he have some self-pride thank you. And the tough help is the only language Nathan is capable to understand, since he have a hard skull to listen to others. But Nathan will not need to be worry about Heart "help". Because he give up in trying to help or understand Nathan. He already accept the fact Nathan is a lost cause. It was about time in opinion. 

Unless you have some kind of mirabolantic strategy to do something about it Mr.

Ix nay on the being overly hostilely nay, Spiritmon. Like Iron said, its fine to play out our character's feelings towards each other in game, but we should TRY our best not to let such things get to us as well. Ventus and Shiva may not like Orthros all that much, but we/they more or less accepted he's not going anywhere and have dealth with in their own ways peacefully by this point, even if their view of Nathan has lessened to varying degrees because of this, for example.

Point is, we all have our own views on the various things our characters have fucked up in, but by now we've already clearly and subtly explained them to DEATH , and only continuely bringing it up will create toxicity and an environment of bitter unpleasenetness. So please, just......stop it for now. At least wait until Nathan does something particularly offensive before bringing up this topic again, or address it in a less provocative and hostile way and offer more constructive critisim.

We've aired our grievances amply on this topic, so let's not keep doing......

@Spiritmon

Yes, I would very much like it if Heart apologized to Nathan for insulting Kirlia and then walking off before Nathan had a chance to respond right then and there. Expect Nathan to do something in response to that soonish if that's not remedied.

@Lord Windos

Casually mentioning Pyroar and Charmeleon sounds like a good way to go. I'll have Nathan meet Ventus and Shiva in the lobby again so he can tell them he's challenging Dagny for his first encounter slot. As for returning Forthright and Starmie...well, guess that can be on the evening of Day 47 (dang simultaneous posting!). Lemme just type something up moderately quickly here...

[Spiritmon]

Spoiler

Thanks. Its kinda experience in real life. Only be friendly with someone who is friendly with you. If that person dont want your help, or not threat with you with the same friendship, then that person dont deserve to be called friend. I try to reflect that in my character in the campaigh, like part of my essence. And no need to worry about insulting or offenssive. Heart already see Nathan dont react or take actions even when insulting. Heart will not do anything.

Thing is, Nathan's been burned before.  Badly.  So he takes a similar approach, but it's more...extreme.  Heart's approaches haven't gone unnoticed, but it's the 'tough love' that Nathan's reacted negatively to, which is why he's giving Heart a particularly hard time.

He's reacted, but not positively.  Heart hasn't been helping because of the ways he's trying to 'help'.

Hence why Nathan's gone back to being angry with Heart in some fashion.

Then what you expect me to do? Talk with Nathan and apologize? Nope, knowing Nathan he will likely diminute Heart or ignore him. Heart its normally a understable guy, but he have some self-pride thank you. And the tough help is the only language Nathan is capable to understand, since he have a hard skull to listen to others. But Nathan will not need to be worry about Heart "help". Because he give up in trying to help or understand Nathan. He already accept the fact Nathan is a lost cause. It was about time in opinion. 

Unless you have some kind of mirabolantic strategy to do something about it Mr.

Ix nay on the being overly hostilely nay, Spiritmon. Like Iron said, its fine to play out our character's feelings towards each other in game, but we should TRY our best not to let such things get to us as well. Ventus and Shiva may not like Orthros all that much, but we/they more or less accepted he's not going anywhere and have dealth with in their own ways peacefully by this point, even if their view of Nathan has lessened to varying degrees because of this, for example.

Point is, we all have our own views on the various things our characters have fucked up in, but by now we've already clearly and subtly explained them to DEATH , and only continuely bringing it up will create toxicity and an environment of bitter unpleasenetness. So please, just......stop it for now. At least wait until Nathan does something particularly offensive before bringing up this topic again, or address it in a less provocative and hostile way and offer more constructive critisim.

We've aired our grievances amply on this topic, so let's not keep doing......

....Alright. I think I got carried away about this topic. I will stop bring this topic unless Nathan give any logic reason bring again that topic. I want avoid toxicity in the Meta Thread and avoid conflict.

@Spiritmon

Yes, I would very much like it if Heart apologized to Nathan for insulting Kirlia and then walking off before Nathan had a chance to respond right then and there.  Expect Nathan to do something in response to that soonish if that's not remedied.

I will think about that. If Nathan apologize too about the way he threat Heart until now. From the beggining of the journey, until the moment in the Little Cup.

[Dragonstrike]

Oh, sorry about not commenting on that! I just saw that you deleted your post, and assumed you were going to take care of it yourself. I just wanted Ven to give you Starmie/Forthright right away, rather than delay you any....

End result is the same regardless. Ventus has a chance to react to the scene in some way or wake Nathan for a talk of some kind if he desires.

I'd just assumed I'd have to remind ya about returning them. That's why I made the first post, then deleted it when I found out that wasn't the case at all.

[Lord Windos]

Oh, sorry about not commenting on that! I just saw that you deleted your post, and assumed you were going to take care of it yourself. I just wanted Ven to give you Starmie/Forthright right away, rather than delay you any....

End result is the same regardless.  Ventus has a chance to react to the scene in some way or wake Nathan for a talk of some kind if he desires.

I'd just assumed I'd have to remind ya about returning them.  That's why I made the first post, then deleted it when I found out that wasn't the case at all.

Well, you certainly got one, in any case. Up to Kirlia what to do with it, though, since he's the only that was paying attention to Ventus right then.

Nope, I remember just before I made my post, and modified it accordingly! Lucky, eh?

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

I think Arbok would shed her skin just about every day she is in a battle. Can definitely do some crafting with that.

I'd be happy to craft stuff out of a big Arbok's shedded skin! Hmm, what can be made out of it... I like the thought of Shiva creating small figurines of snake- or dragonlike Pokemon, maybe two out of every skin. Or a bigger work, like a book wrapper or a small bag to carry delicate and light things. Either for the group to have or for selling.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Hmm, @Lord Windos, from your phrasing it seem like you'd like to visit the Department Store twice: Once with Shiva, which will happen before she'll head to the Shelter (that means I can take care of Grumpig on my own, yay for her dealing with Psychic Types!~), then again after Ven accompanied Nathan's Gym battle. Is that intentionally or accidental?

[Dragonstrike]

@Iron

Need some input on what Nathan might know of Creshire's Celebi beyond the guidebook entry.

If it's not much more atm, though, guess it'll be research time at some point!

[Lord Windos]

Hmm, @Lord Windos, from your phrasing it seem like you'd like to visit the Department Store twice: Once with Shiva, which will happen before she'll head to the Shelter (that means I can take care of Grumpig on my own, yay for her dealing with Psychic Types!~), then again after Ven accompanied Nathan's Gym battle. Is that intentionally or accidental?

Accidental. Ventus will only visit the Department Store once with Shiva, and then head over to the Gym to witness Nathan's battle against Dagney.

[Dragonstrike]

Post is coming soon, so hang tight!