[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Spiritmon]

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Welp, Ven's got a Delta Onix now, and he did so without much difficulty at all! Now that is what I call a come back! How much XP does Ven and Apsis get for it? 1 for both of us, since we creamed it without much trouble?

Also, @Spiritmon I have another idea. Since both our Pokémon are going to be onery as all get out when regardless of their evo, how about we first take Scyther and Onix to the Disobenance Training Camp (They both have 3 Disobedience, which is the cut off point), and lower their Disobedience before we trade them? That way Scizors only has 1 Disobedience and Delta Steelix has 3, so we both would stand to benefit from this!

I only have enough muns to cover my Steel Coat, though, so you would either have to cover the cost of both Pokémon yourself, or only Delta Steelix if you just want to save costs.

Oh, and how much does camping cost again in time and Poke?

Also, @Spiritmon I have another idea. Since both our Pokémon are going to be onery as all get out when regardless of their evo, how about we first take Scyther and Onix to the Disobenance Training Camp (They both have 3 Disobedience, which is the cut off point), and lower their Disobedience before we trade them? That way Scizors only has 1 Disobedience and Delta Steelix has 3, so we both would stand to benefit from this!

Oh, and how much does camping cost again in time and Poke?

You might want to save that for afterwards, actually.  Trading without the pokemon's consent of being traded to someone else has a -1 penalty to Happiness and Loyalty, so trading them while they both have 0 would avoid that penalty entirely.

$1800 a pokemon, 2 days of training, pick up/deposited on the third, but they only take pokemon with 1-3 Disobedience...which would exclude Delta Steelix...but not Delta Onix...hmmm...quite the conundrum...

For me its okay but I think we should at least help and go along with Dragonstrike idea I think. Or not since I want it to at least get the move Sand Tomb who is now Sky Drop from that Delta Onix. Its a interesting move and the previous evolution move Steelix cant learn, only his previous evolution.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Looks like both Heart and Ven will search for a job to follow in Cress City then for the sake of gaining money for the Disobediance Camp then?

Please don't forget that you promised to spend at least an evening with Shiva in that town at some point, @Lord Windos, K?

[Dragonstrike]

Spoiler

Welp, Ven's got a Delta Onix now, and he did so without much difficulty at all! Now that is what I call a come back! How much XP does Ven and Apsis get for it? 1 for both of us, since we creamed it without much trouble?

Also, @Spiritmon I have another idea. Since both our Pokémon are going to be onery as all get out when regardless of their evo, how about we first take Scyther and Onix to the Disobenance Training Camp (They both have 3 Disobedience, which is the cut off point), and lower their Disobedience before we trade them? That way Scizors only has 1 Disobedience and Delta Steelix has 3, so we both would stand to benefit from this!

I only have enough muns to cover my Steel Coat, though, so you would either have to cover the cost of both Pokémon yourself, or only Delta Steelix if you just want to save costs.

Oh, and how much does camping cost again in time and Poke?

Also, @Spiritmon I have another idea. Since both our Pokémon are going to be onery as all get out when regardless of their evo, how about we first take Scyther and Onix to the Disobenance Training Camp (They both have 3 Disobedience, which is the cut off point), and lower their Disobedience before we trade them? That way Scizors only has 1 Disobedience and Delta Steelix has 3, so we both would stand to benefit from this!

Oh, and how much does camping cost again in time and Poke?

You might want to save that for afterwards, actually.  Trading without the pokemon's consent of being traded to someone else has a -1 penalty to Happiness and Loyalty, so trading them while they both have 0 would avoid that penalty entirely.

$1800 a pokemon, 2 days of training, pick up/deposited on the third, but they only take pokemon with 1-3 Disobedience...which would exclude Delta Steelix...but not Delta Onix...hmmm...quite the conundrum...

For me its okay but I think we should at least help and go along with Dragonstrike idea I think. Or not since I want it to at least get the move Sand Tomb who is now Sky Drop from that Delta Onix. Its a interesting move and the previous evolution move Steelix cant learn, only his previous evolution.

Sky Drop costs 37 exp to learn, so that'll be a little bit of a wait.  

Do still have Chatter until then, though.  But good point on Steelix not learning it since it learns Crunch at that level instead...

[Lord Windos]

You might want to save that for afterwards, actually.  Trading without the pokemon's consent of being traded to someone else has a -1 penalty to Happiness and Loyalty, so trading them while they both have 0 would avoid that penalty entirely.

$1800 a pokemon, 2 days of training, pick up/deposited on the third, but they only take pokemon with 1-3 Disobedience...which would exclude Delta Steelix...but not Delta Onix...hmmm...quite the conundrum...

The way I recall how the Camp works is that it reduce Disobedience directly instead of increasing Loyalty and Happiness, like what happened with Charmeleon when Ven gave them a sound thrashing. If that is the case then both Scyther and Delta Onix can get the benefits of the Camp without losing them upon trade. If not, then only Scyther can benefit from the Camp post trade, and only Delta Onix can be taken to camp. Of course, Ven could just give his Steel Coat to Heart directly to evolve Delta Onix AFTER it goes through camp training if it doesn't reduce Disobedience once he's bonded with it enough, so its still can work out. Just a few more steps, is all.

Your call on how you want to do this, @Spiritmon, so choose~!

[Dragonstrike]

The way I recall how the Camp works is that it reduce Disobedience directly instead of increasing Loyalty and Happiness, like what happened with Charmeleon when Ven gave them a sound thrashing. If that is the case then both Scyther and Delta Onix can get the benefits of the Camp without losing them upon trade. If not, then only Scyther can benefit from the Camp post trade, and only Delta Onix can be taken to camp. Of course, Ven could just give his Steel Coat to Heart directly to evolve Delta Onix AFTER it goes through camp training if it doesn't reduce Disobedience once he's bonded with it enough, so its still can work out. Just a few more steps, is all.

It gives +1 Loyalty after 2 days of training.  No disobedience reductions involved.  Just went and checked what the benefit Nidorino got was.

There is always the option for Ventus to purchase his metal coat for Scyther, and Heart can just purchase his for Delta Onix later and trade evolve it when it has enough happiness and loyalty to be fine with the tradeback evolution.

Or he could just try to tough it out with a pokemon that has 4 disobedience and 0 loyalty to start with.

[Lord Windos]

Looks like both Heart and Ven will search for a job to follow in Cress City then for the sake of gaining money for the Disobediance Camp then?

Please don't forget that you promised to spend at least an evening with Shiva in that town at some point, @Lord Windos, K?

Probably high stakes battling in Ven's case, in order to train his Pokémon and get the Poke necessary for Camp later/Rain Dance + Mystic Water for Kingdra/Revenge Plan Against Chandelure etc..

I won't my love, but since that Ventus is FAR from being in the mood for socializing, it'll probably be a few days before our characters can interact non-awkwardly, and probably longer still for things to go back to 'normal'.

[Spiritmon]

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Spoiler

Welp, Ven's got a Delta Onix now, and he did so without much difficulty at all! Now that is what I call a come back! How much XP does Ven and Apsis get for it? 1 for both of us, since we creamed it without much trouble?

Also, @Spiritmon I have another idea. Since both our Pokémon are going to be onery as all get out when regardless of their evo, how about we first take Scyther and Onix to the Disobenance Training Camp (They both have 3 Disobedience, which is the cut off point), and lower their Disobedience before we trade them? That way Scizors only has 1 Disobedience and Delta Steelix has 3, so we both would stand to benefit from this!

I only have enough muns to cover my Steel Coat, though, so you would either have to cover the cost of both Pokémon yourself, or only Delta Steelix if you just want to save costs.

Oh, and how much does camping cost again in time and Poke?

Also, @Spiritmon I have another idea. Since both our Pokémon are going to be onery as all get out when regardless of their evo, how about we first take Scyther and Onix to the Disobenance Training Camp (They both have 3 Disobedience, which is the cut off point), and lower their Disobedience before we trade them? That way Scizors only has 1 Disobedience and Delta Steelix has 3, so we both would stand to benefit from this!

Oh, and how much does camping cost again in time and Poke?

You might want to save that for afterwards, actually.  Trading without the pokemon's consent of being traded to someone else has a -1 penalty to Happiness and Loyalty, so trading them while they both have 0 would avoid that penalty entirely.

$1800 a pokemon, 2 days of training, pick up/deposited on the third, but they only take pokemon with 1-3 Disobedience...which would exclude Delta Steelix...but not Delta Onix...hmmm...quite the conundrum...

For me its okay but I think we should at least help and go along with Dragonstrike idea I think. Or not since I want it to at least get the move Sand Tomb who is now Sky Drop from that Delta Onix. Its a interesting move and the previous evolution move Steelix cant learn, only his previous evolution.

Sky Drop costs 37 exp to learn, so that'll be a little bit of a wait.  

Do still have Chatter until then, though.  But good point on Steelix not learning it since it learns Crunch at that level instead...

You might want to save that for afterwards, actually.  Trading without the pokemon's consent of being traded to someone else has a -1 penalty to Happiness and Loyalty, so trading them while they both have 0 would avoid that penalty entirely.

$1800 a pokemon, 2 days of training, pick up/deposited on the third, but they only take pokemon with 1-3 Disobedience...which would exclude Delta Steelix...but not Delta Onix...hmmm...quite the conundrum...

The way I recall how the Camp works is that it reduce Disobedience directly instead of increasing Loyalty and Happiness, like what happened with Charmeleon when Ven gave them a sound thrashing. If that is the case then both Scyther and Delta Onix can get the benefits of the Camp without losing them upon trade. If not, then only Scyther can benefit from the Camp post trade, and only Delta Onix can be taken to camp. Of course, Ven could just give his Steel Coat to Heart directly to evolve Delta Onix AFTER it goes through camp training if it doesn't reduce Disobedience once he's bonded with it enough, so its still can work out. Just a few more steps, is all.

Your call on how you want to do this, @Spiritmon, so choose~!

The way I recall how the Camp works is that it reduce Disobedience directly instead of increasing Loyalty and Happiness, like what happened with Charmeleon when Ven gave them a sound thrashing. If that is the case then both Scyther and Delta Onix can get the benefits of the Camp without losing them upon trade. If not, then only Scyther can benefit from the Camp post trade, and only Delta Onix can be taken to camp. Of course, Ven could just give his Steel Coat to Heart directly to evolve Delta Onix AFTER it goes through camp training if it doesn't reduce Disobedience once he's bonded with it enough, so its still can work out. Just a few more steps, is all.

It gives +1 Loyalty after 2 days of training.  No disobedience reductions involved.  Just went and checked what the benefit Nidorino got was.

There is always the option for Ventus to purchase his metal coat for Scyther, and Heart can just purchase his for Delta Onix later and trade evolve it when it has enough happiness and loyalty to be fine with the tradeback evolution.

I agree with Dragonstrike. I would to at least keep Onix in his currently form both to keep his level of disobedience as 3 and for me try to bond with him a bit. Besides, I really want to get Sky Drop even with the cheap price of 37 XP to get its a interesting Charge move since the target would be Flinching when using. Its something really useful. Of course, I will have to work a bit in the Camp for a while.

I buy the Metal Coat for Scyther if you already want to evolve Scyther to Scizor but you might loose a few moves. I kind like to keep to chance to get some cool moves in pre-evolution.

[Lord Windos]

It gives +1 Loyalty after 2 days of training.  No disobedience reductions involved.  Just went and checked what the benefit Nidorino got was.

There is always the option for Ventus to purchase his metal coat for Scyther, and Heart can just purchase his for Delta Onix later and trade evolve it when it has enough happiness and loyalty to be fine with the tradeback evolution.

Okay, but I still want that Metal Coat on Scyther, as Delta Onix is worth at LEAST that much if also the Poke to cover the cost of taking it to camp (though I'm not going to add as that part of the deal, since I'm not THAT stingy), and Heart can always buy a Steel Coat for himself later once he's bonded with it more/take it camping. @Spiritmon, is that okay with you?

[Dragonstrike]

Completely off topic, but...wow.  This is...a thing.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

I won't my love, but since that Ventus is FAR from being in the mood for socializing, it'll probably be a few days before our characters can interact non-awkwardly, and probably longer still for things to go back to 'normal'.

Free time granted as much as he wants, no problem, but that soft-messes plans that were already made and discussed to some degree, but...oh well, that's the way it is, I suppose.