[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Spiritmon]

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After seeing what's required to get an Egg from Anti Extinctionist Arcanine, I believe I'm perfectly alright with Terra not going to the volcano at all and just exploring the jungle/waiting at the campsite, scratching his head and wondering where everyone is. Its not that I don't want a Pokemon there (thought I'm not particularly interested any one of them, except the Legends, and even then.....), but that I believe my character would flatly refuse to take up the  Pledge, due to it having the potential to conflict with his existing pledge/job/solemn duty of being the group's guardian protector. His friends safety, wellbeing, happiness, and their future is pretty much the most important thing in his life save his own Pokemon and his parents, so he really couldn't accept any obligation that might deprioritize or interfere with his duty without feeling massively guilty/conflicted.

Regarding the Legend Eggs, I personally believe the Celebi Egg should be well enough left alone, due to the first time Shiva interacted with one caused everyone to get LURCHED frequently through time and space, so having another one constantly on hand is a near literally ticking time bomb. For the Moltres Egg (if its up for adoption) I think Heart should be the one to get it. He's already associated with Fire itself due to Jirachi's Blessing, but seeing as Moltres is a phoenix and represents rebirth, renewal, and flames of passion, it would be a perfect compliment to the pun lover's own desires to remake his clan and his own determination to right the wrongs of his ancestor/of the present era. Its practically a match made in heaven, eh?

So, in sum, Terra has no need to go to the cave (Other than to gawk at Arcanine and then immediately offer them marshmellow and honey), so he's staying out of the loop unless someone wants to clue him in later, which wouldn't matter to him other than being both proud and cautionary about said Pledge they made and the responsibility they've undertook.

So, in sum, Terra has no need to go to the cave (Other than to gawk at Arcanine and then immediately offer them marshmellow and honey), so he's staying out of the loop unless someone wants to clue him in later, which wouldn't matter to him other than being both proud and cautionary about said Pledge they made and the responsibility they've undertook.

Lol I'd love to see that.

About the Pledge, I guess I could accept with no big problems. Rose indeed could benefit from that since she is Heart main pokemon and starter (along with the fact Infernape is kinda a big deal in the ArcHeart bloodline since it was the pokemon Ark itself have as main pokemon). I didnt think at first, but Moltres is indeed a perfect representation of such fire will and could be a mach made in heaven. But I dont think if Heart could ever have a Legendary Pokemon in his team. I not even sure. Sure, he would take care of the egg, but he problably would not force the young Moltres to stay with him.

[Lord Windos]

About the Pledge, I guess I could accept with no big problems. Rose indeed could benefit from that since she is Heart main pokemon and starter (along with the fact Infernape is kinda a big deal in the ArcHeart bloodline since it was the pokemon Ark itself have as main pokemon). I didnt think at first, but Moltres is indeed a perfect representation of such fire will and could be a mach made in heaven. But I dont think if Heart could ever have a Legendary Pokemon in his team. I not even sure. Sure, he would take care of the egg, but he problably would not force the young Moltres to stay with him.

Nothing says the Moltres has to stay with Heart forever, or necessarily be used in a battle. They can stay with him long enough for it to grow strong, mature, and independent enough to leave the nest and its father figure, and given that Iron's said that Legendary Pokemon pretty much have a big 'No Rules/Very Loose Rules!' attached to them, it wouldn't be hard just keeping them as an extra in your party (Like Dizzy/Past Calam was to Shiva). Heck, the League might be fully onboard with that plan, given Cheshire's reverence for just about any Pokemon, but especially Legends.

[Spiritmon]

About the Pledge, I guess I could accept with no big problems. Rose indeed could benefit from that since she is Heart main pokemon and starter (along with the fact Infernape is kinda a big deal in the ArcHeart bloodline since it was the pokemon Ark itself have as main pokemon). I didnt think at first, but Moltres is indeed a perfect representation of such fire will and could be a mach made in heaven. But I dont think if Heart could ever have a Legendary Pokemon in his team. I not even sure. Sure, he would take care of the egg, but he problably would not force the young Moltres to stay with him.

Nothing says the Moltres has to stay with Heart forever, or necessarily be used in a battle. They can stay with him long enough for it to grow strong, mature, and independent enough to leave the nest and its father figure, and given that Iron's said that Legendary Pokemon pretty much have a big 'No Rules/Very Loose Rules!' attached to them, it wouldn't be hard just keeping them as an extra in your party (Like Dizzy/Past Calam was to Shiva). Heck, the League might be fully onboard with that plan, given Cheshire's reverence for just about any Pokemon, but especially Legends.

Oh, acting as a guardian of Moltres its more accpetable. This could be a good test to see if Heart is capable of taking care a little baby Moltres and protect him until he became a full legendary phoenix. Thats more like it. Heart also would never use Moltres in battle.

[Dragonstrike]

After seeing what's required to get an Egg from Anti Extinctionist Arcanine, I believe I'm perfectly alright with Terra not going to the volcano at all and just exploring the jungle/waiting at the campsite, scratching his head and wondering where everyone is. Its not that I don't want a Pokemon there (thought I'm not particularly interested any one of them, except the Legends, and even then.....), but that I believe my character would flatly refuse to take up the  Pledge, due to it having the potential to conflict with his existing pledge/job/solemn duty of being the group's guardian protector. His friends safety, wellbeing, happiness, and their future is pretty much the most important thing in his life save his own Pokemon and his parents, so he really couldn't accept any obligation that might deprioritize or interfere with his duty without feeling massively guilty/conflicted.

Regarding the Legend Eggs, I personally believe the Celebi Egg should be well enough left alone, due to the first time Shiva interacted with one caused everyone to get LURCHED frequently through time and space, so having another one constantly on hand is a near literally ticking time bomb. For the Moltres Egg (if its up for adoption) I think Heart should be the one to get it. He's already associated with Fire itself due to Jirachi's Blessing, but seeing as Moltres is a phoenix and represents rebirth, renewal, and flames of passion, it would be a perfect compliment to the pun lover's own desires to remake his clan and his own determination to right the wrongs of his ancestor/of the present era. Its practically a match made in heaven, eh?

So, in sum, Terra has no need to go to the cave (Other than to gawk at Arcanine and then immediately offer them marshmellow and honey), so he's staying out of the loop unless someone wants to clue him in later, which wouldn't matter to him other than being both proud and cautionary about said Pledge they made and the responsibility they've undertook.

Just gonna drop a couple quick thoughts here:

- Magikarp, Shinx, and Vulpix aren't exactly worth a whole lot to the party, tbh.  The pokemon aren't endangered in 2017, and leaving them in the past helps establish that in the future.

- I'm actually kinda interested in the Dratini as well, tbh.  Absolite is on my wishlist, obviously.

- Flabebe and Minicorn are both incredibly rare Fairy types.  Flabebe also has an amazing Ability in Flower Veil.  It could be possible to get a Flabebe via another method, though.  Minicorn is much rarer.

- Moltres is probably best suited for Heart if that one's up for grabs, I agree.  The trick would be convincing Arcanine it'd be worth letting Heart take the Legend to help reintroduce it into the wild in Creshire.

- The Celebi egg is being watched by Arcanine at Celebi's request.  I'm not sure it's possible for us to take that one.  And Arcanine said that if we touch it, it'll 'straighten the time wrapped around us', which probably means it'll send us back to 2017.



Of all of those, I think the only ones we 'need' to take are the two that are on wishlists: Absolite and Minicorn.  Moltres would be an interesting plot point for Heart given his backstory and newfound association with fire.  Dratini and Flabebe would just be additional helpful pokemon for whoever gets them (albeit some very strong ones).

[Dragonstrike]

Oh, acting as a guardian of Moltres its more accpetable. This could be a good test to see if Heart is capable of taking care a little baby Moltres and protect him until he became a full legendary phoenix. Thats more like it. Heart also would never use Moltres in battle.

That's basically what taking these eggs amounts to: acting as a guardian for the species until you've helped them reestablish themselves in Creshire's wildlife.  Whether that means they start a family on their own or with their caretaker's help is up to the pokemon itself to determine.

In the case of the Absolite, Nathan has the hardest job because Mega Absol aren't something that occurs naturally very easily.  Nathan will have a very different job from everyone else because of the nature of Mega Evolution.

In the case of Moltres, it'll probably be a case of letting it go at some point when it's ready to live on its own.  As it is a Legendary species, nobody has ever seen it breed in captivity.  And also because it's a Legendary, if it wants to leave after it achieves its full power, there's nothing you can probably do to stop it, as Legendaries typically only travel with humans if they really want to.

In the case of everything else besides Celebi, it's very possible that they could just stay with their trainers and produce offspring in captivity that could then be released into the wild.  Or they might prefer to head off on their own.

There's nothing that says you can't use a Legendary in battle, but you'll get some really funny/awestruck looks if you do so, probably.  Same case as if you were to use an Aegislash, basically.  You could be like Bo and never use the Legend you befriended in battles.  You could also be more like Hayes and Latias if the Legend doesn't mind participating in battles, though.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Uh, hey, Iron, I just wanted to state that... that I really like the scene in the volcanic cave? ^^ Not only the fact that I made it to convince Arcanine and therefor being gifted with a sought-out Egg of a Minicorn + another wish is granted via a Fire Move, but moreso how: RP'ing that scene is quite fun, I love the circumstances you thought out for learning Fire Pledge, reminds me on the Unbreakable Vow from the HarryPotter-Universe. All in all, it's a great perhaps Final Act for the Time Traveling Shenanigans!

I find it kinda amusing that Shiva ends up owning an exemplar of both Uranium's Egg-exclusive (partial) Fairy Types since she already got a Luxi from deep within Mount Sentry.

I'll get to typing up a proper resonse in-game then, please gimme a bit of time, alright?

Blast Burn and Fire Punch could be awesome moves for Rose to use. Fire Pledge its cool too but it could bring a lot of negative casualities since its literally burn EVERYTHING around it and transform the battlefield into a literal inferno. To much dangerous in my opinion. Imagine if you are fighting in a battlefield in the Gym and then BAM! People get burning, field in flames and all kinds of nasty things.

I don't really care that it's dangerous, Fire Pledge is ideal for a particular companion of mine who's very good at controlling fire, should be able to prevent accidently setting people ablaze, lolz! Blast Burn's much stronger obviously, but meh.

[Iron]

Thank you!

[Dragonstrike]

An interesting thought occurred to me.

Hida might not just evolve over the course of 1000 years.  He might also gain exp and learn new moves because so much time will have passed for him.  It'd be surprising if he didn't grow and change over such a long period of time, to be honest...



And Dizzy/Calam even acts as an example of a similar thing already occurring earlier in the campaign, too.  Over the course of three years, his experiences lead to his attitude and approaches towards various situations generally becoming more direct, he learned Night Slash (the only move besides Rock Smash that Calam knew when he met/reunited with Nathan that the young Dizzy did not know during his travels with the group), and he gained his +1 Dex and Survival Surprise.

[Dragonstrike]

Blast Burn and Fire Punch could be awesome moves for Rose to use. Fire Pledge its cool too but it could bring a lot of negative casualities since its literally burn EVERYTHING around it and transform the battlefield into a literal inferno. To much dangerous in my opinion. Imagine if you are fighting in a battlefield in the Gym and then BAM! People get burning, field in flames and all kinds of nasty things.

I don't really care that it's dangerous, Fire Pledge is ideal for a particular companion of mine who's very good at controlling fire, should be able to prevent accidently setting people ablaze, lolz! Blast Burn's much stronger obviously, but meh.

(Replying to both @Spiritmon and Phantom)

On a similar note, there are definitely ways to abuse Fire Pledge's effects in battle, too.  The fact that the move specifically deals Fire type damage in Pokerole's rules is very, very notable.  And in League style battles, the people are usually a safe distance away from the action and the battlefield is kept clean and easily manageable so the pokemon can use their moves freely.  In an open field, though?  Yeah, probably don't want to use Fire Pledge.  Strong Fire moves like Inferno, Fire Blast, and and Flare Blitz are bad enough around large numbers of flammable objects as is.

Blast Burn is a big, Lethal nuke.  Not much more to it than that, other than those who aren't able to properly account for its recharge time are going to have a difficult time using it to its full potential.  It's definitely not a move everyone can use. (Well, it's also a symbol of the pokemon's bond with their trainer, but that's another story entirely)

[Dragonstrike]

Just to ask OOC, do either of you want to take the Flabebe egg, @Spiritmon and @PhantomUnderYourDesk? Or is it fine if Nathan takes it?