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Humm, I'd go for Swiftfire because being a fast mountable horse and for Ditto because it can turn out useful to transform into various Pokemon and simple objects.
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(02-20-2019, 01:54 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: (02-20-2019, 01:30 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Well, that's a complicated decision. But I think Charizard and Ditto would be good options. Between Switfire or Charizard, Charizard it's one of your strongest fully evolved Pokemon. But maybe bring a fiery dragon in some stealth mission I don't think it's a wise choice. A fire horse maybe not better, but he have pretty good moves and can be mounted for better escape options so that's something.
Ditto like you say it's very much versatile and can help a lot with transformation skills. And can be used to stealth.
That's my opinion on the case.
Lemme list some pros for each:
Swiftfire
- More instant power with Fire Blast and Inferno
- Coverage in Megahorn and Poison Jab
- Fast with Flame Charge and Quick Attack
- Can trap with Fire Spin
- Mountable horse
- spread debuffing in Growl and Tail Whip
Charizard
- Blaze powers up all Fire moves he knows (but he needs to be at -2 Pain to get the most out of it)
- Coverage in Air Slash, Shadow Claw, and Dragon Claw
- Airborne mount (but it's not as relevant indoors)
- If used with Swiftfire, he can trigger her Flash Fire
- Can learn Scary Face, which is just as good as inflicting Paralysis if the foe can't/doesn't switch pokemon
Ditto
- Random Transformation is actually kinda useful
- can perfectly duplicate any pokemon it can see (copying most Surprises and all known moves)
- can turn into any pokemon it's seen from memory (but will instead only know moves that cost 40 exp or less for that species to learn in that case)
- Can turn into dusobedient species but retain its own 0 disobedience
- can turn into simple objects it can see
Well, I bringing Rose with me for max fire power, and she knows Fire Pledge along with other range moves. I think for more better multi-target moves, Switfire its a better choice. Not mentioned counter moves with a place filled with pyshic types, so Switfire Mega Horn its a better move.
Thats make me rethink about bringing Rose to be honest. She is weak to psychic, despite having a offencive strong type, along with the bless of Jirachi. Maybe I should take Typhon, Heracross, Honckrow, Meowth or Fraxure since they all know strong super effective moves against Psychic.
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Pros and cons in bring Typhon, Heracross, Honckrow, Meowth Atlas or Koa:
Typhon:
- No type weakness
- Access to Thunder Wave and Charge Beam
- Coil
- Heart have Thunder Stone to evolve Typhon
- Possibility of learn strong moves like Acid, Crunch, Crush Claw, etc
Herarcross:
- STAB successive action moves (Arm Thrust and Pin Missile)
- Armed with Houndoom Fang or Razor Claw each hit have 1D6 chance to flinch.
- SE against Psychic (despite be weak against too)
- Swarm ability to increase Bug power with each pain
- Bug item to increase strengh
- Semi-aero Pokemon
Honckrow:
- Dark-type
- Super Luck ability
- Haze move
- Night Slash (combine that with Super Luck and you get a critical chance with only need 3 success in accuracy roll)
- Aero Pokemon
- Swagger and Sucker Punch
- Night Shade for better protection
Meowth:
- Fake Out
- Taunt move
Atlas:
- Iron First Ability
- Elemental Punches: Shadow, Ice, Fire and Thunder Punches
- Ghost-type for check against Psychic and infiltration
- Magnitude to cause any foe to run away.
- Rock Smash User.
Koa:
- One of Heart strongerst Pokemon after Rose and Gustav
- Know Dragon Dance to increase speed and power
- Also close to learn SD for extra power
- Dual Chop+DD+STAB+Dragon Fang = Lots of damage in 2 hits per use.
- Know Assurance.
- Also Rock Smash User
Rose:
- Know strong fire moves: Fire Pledge, Flamethower, Fire Punch, Blast Burn, Flare Blitz, etc.
- Blaze ability to increase strengh per pain.
- Jirachi Bless of fire who increase her fire power.
- Equipped with a Charcoal and get extra fire power.
- Coverage against Flying and Water types thanks to Thunder Punch.
- Acrobatic skills since she is a monkey.
- STAB Priority move like Mach Punch.
- Close to learn Punishment (dark type move)
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A review of what we know about Scimitars:
- ones with Metal Gauntlets are often treated as part Steel type (based on what we know of how Psychic and Fire moves have worked against them in prior encounters). Fire, Ground, and Fighting moves are probably going to be the most reliable ones while still determining enemy types.
- ones with Leather Gauntlets in 2014 were not treated as Steel types
- Their gauntlets let them load additional types (and Abilities) based on the pokemon they have on hand, so they aren't necessarily all going to be the same type. Juni's group was all Psychic type, but Nathan was definitely facing a Ghost type Scimitar during the Little Cup (I never did quite figure out what type his buddy was). The LC Scims were also immune to Grid's Electroweb without gaining anything from being attacked by an Electric move, so I guess they might have also been part Ground type (maybe due to being Earth Scims)?
- Earth Scims are able to copy their pokemons' stats according to what Juni said.
- Both Water and Earth Scims work with Almanac
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(02-20-2019, 02:59 PM)Spiritmon Wrote: Rose:
- Jirachi Bless of fire who increase her fire power.
- Equipped with a Charcoal and get extra fire power.
Note: Charcoal is basically a useless item for Heart since it doesn't stack with the Fire wish from Jirachi. The Black Belt (or almost any other item) would be far more useful for Rose.
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About to head to class mates, so if you are waiting on me to make I post, I'd say go on ahead without me on the assumption Terra will be getting into contact with the various group members that messaged him and contribute to the cause ASAP. Terra is not going to be directly joining the base raid, so his responses/arrival doesn't have to be in a timely manner, me thinks.
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@ PhantomUnderYourDesk : What/Where was/is the message that Shiva sent Terra about the Scimitar Smash 'n Grab? I can't find it in the Game Thread, only Heart's most recent message.
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(02-20-2019, 04:25 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: What/Where was/is the message that Shiva sent Terra about the Scimitar Smash 'n Grab? I can't find it in the Game Thread, only Heart's most recent message.
I don't remember her sending one in the game thread, tbh. I think it was only discussed in the meta thread.
While we're on the topic, though, I don't think it'd be a bad idea for Angela to ALSO act as backup along with Terra.
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(02-20-2019, 04:22 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: About to head to class mates, so if you are waiting on me to make I post, I'd say go on ahead without me on the assumption Terra will be getting into contact with the various group members that messaged him and contribute to the cause ASAP. Terra is not going to be directly joining the base raid, so his responses/arrival doesn't have to be in a timely manner, me thinks.
At this point, I think we're just waiting on finalized team compositions from Heart, Nathan, and Spira before moving on, actually.
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(02-20-2019, 04:25 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: @Phantom: What/Where was/is the message that Shiva sent Terra about the Scimitar Smash 'n Grab? I can't find it in the Game Thread, only Heart's most recent message.
Oh, that's nowhere because I didn't even outplay that in-game due to me gaming and reading instead of lurking on this board, and I didn't feel the urge to elaborate that for the sake of getting started on the Infiltrating as soon and swift as possible instead of soft-loosing time with smaller things. ^^; But now we appear to wait anyway.
Well, basically Shiva would ask Terra via cell whether they can meet up real quick at the evening of Day 74 where she'll explain everything to him, ask him to serve as back-up and loan Helios to him, if meeting isn't possible she'd do all of that via a call or text message. If you like I can create a small post with said message real quick before I'll soon get to bed.
EDIT: It's up in Game Thread, enjoy.
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