[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Lord Windos]

Maybe just the things you've already found, like the Metal Robe (doesn't stack as you guessed), the exoskeleton, and the ethereal mithril cone (which feels extraordinarily Earthpowerful to Heart, Terra, and Shiva).

Nothing pings your Deoxys sense, because Deoxys existed and left again long before Sarimanok. Cosh does know a little more though - he says he can tell you a little about what Deoxys left in his wake last time.

Fair enough, and thanks! Can't wait to see what the Mithril Cone does when Terra gets his curious mits on it....

Huh....well, Terra would be more than willing and eager to listen, in that case! Maybe they'd talk to him to pass the time while he's and Shiva are looting the place, Heart is (Hopefully) finishing the de-cursing of Marco, and Nathan is communing with Mesprit?

[Lord Windos]

.....Well, heck, now I know why you drew attention to that bad boy Iron. Hoo boy....that's a most potent Item, for humans and Pokemon alike, and probably could even be used in League Battles by one of us players if you could pass it off as a 'harmless' prop. Pretty useful Item overall, really! One quick question about it, though: by character, do you mean Player Characters only, or just anyone/thing (Like Pokemon)?

Since Terra was the one that choose to investigate it, does that mean it's his to do with as he pleases? Or is it Solomon's, since he's the one that ended up using it (and ergo, Nathan's)? If the former case, I'd actually want to give it to Heart, as he deserves a worthy enough Item for him/his Pokemon to use after all they gave up for The Sword, and because as the resident Earthpower specialist he'd probably get more out of it than Terra with just his Steel Blessing.

[Dragonstrike]

.....Well, heck, now I know why you drew attention to that bad boy Iron. Hoo boy....that's a most potent Item, for humans and Pokemon alike, and probably could even be used in League Battles by one of us players if you could pass it off as a 'harmless' prop. Pretty useful Item overall, really! One quick question about it, though: by character, do you mean Player Characters only, or just anyone/thing (Like Pokemon)?

Since Terra was the one that choose to investigate it, does that mean it's his to do with as he pleases? Or is it Solomon's, since he's the one that ended up using it (and ergo, Nathan's)? If the former case, I'd actually want to give it to Heart, as he deserves a worthy enough Item for him/his Pokemon to use after all they gave up for The Sword, and because as the resident Earthpower specialist he'd probably get more out of it than Terra with just his Steel Blessing.

Nathan would just give it to Heart anyways for the same reasons.

[Spiritmon]

Atcually I okay with Terra have the this bad boy. You was willing to sacrifice yourself for our cause, so you are also worth. Besides, you also didn't get a artefact too, so you deserve something nice. The thing about: "Sounds like a Metal Pokemon imprisoned" fits more with Terra Metal Bless. Like I said, I still searching something more related in character.

Also, if you don't mind I would like to have the Metal Coat.

[Iron]

Character is strictly defined to mean a pokemon OR human, whether player character or NPC.

[Lord Windos]

Atcually I okay with Terra have the this bad boy. You was willing to sacrifice yourself for our cause, so you are also worth. Besides, you also didn't get a artefact too, so you deserve something nice. The thing about: "Sounds like a Metal Pokemon imprisoned" fits more with Terra Metal Bless. Like I said, I still searching something more related in character.

Also, if you don't mind I would like to have the Metal Coat.

......Mate, I legitamately didn't mind giving The Frozen Roar over to you, as while I do adore it (Who can say no to what amounts to a different, broader, and better take of the Miracle Rod?), I honestly think it would be better off with you and Heart and you deserve it more than I (Especially seeing as you got the biggest part of the shaft when it came to obtaining the Sword for us). So if you want it, take it, and there will be no complaints coming from me.

Have it! I literally can't use the Metal Coat (Heh, made an unintention pun there, mate!) in any practical way (Aside from maybe using it as an accessory, but that's just wasteful), so anyone but me should take it, and I think YOU are the best person to own it. After all, if I recall correct you have the most Steel Type Pokemon outside of Terra, so they're plenty of worthy holder for it amoung his number.

On the topic of TFR, as I mention just a couple paragraphs ago, it's bascially a MUCH better Mircale Rod-esqe Item. To compare, The Miracle Rod granted a Base benefit of + 2 HP to Grass Types, and then gave Pokemon access to the Move Grass Knot regardless of their Type, while the Frozen Roar grants Immunity to Pain/Exhaustion Penalties as a Base Benefit to ALL types/Types of characters, and either grants the Move Frozen Roar for Pokemon or Victory Cry (to borrow a name for Shin Megami Tensi) for Humans to use against/on Pokemon as 'Moves' , again, regardless of type/Type. Honestly, it's a nice and clever way to recycle and improve upon an Item concept, so kudos for that Iron!

Speaking of the Miracle Rod, I had a funny thought about it, and looked up its original description to see if it could have been true or not: Could a Human Character have use the Miracle Rod to use Grass Knot? The original description:

' This Miracle Rod is related to a Miracle Seed. It emanates a fertilizing aura. When held, it adds two feet (and two HP) to any Grass-type Pokemon, and also allows the use of Grass Knot. '

....doesn't explicitly disallow it (Though Iron probably would have immediately veteod that, should it have ever been thought of). If we continue this 'What if's' line of thinking, if one of our characters choose to get a Grass Blessing from Jirachi, then they could have also concievably benefited of the + 2 HP/Height growth baseline benefit of the Rod, as while they're not a true Grass Type they are practically speaking embody its power (And probably would have acted like a Leaf Stone/Sun Stone) AND also have gotten pseudo STAB of Grass Knot (Which certainly would have been usable by the character at that point, if nothing else). Pretty nifty stuff, huh? Shame the power of The Miracle Rod couldn't have been fully realized and exploited, but hey, we now have the better Frozen Roar in place to joyfully find ways to abuse it! Mwahahaha!

That said, all this brainstorming got me thinking a couple of things, namely:
- Could the Frozen Roar be used by a Pokemon/Human to enhance/empower an Intimidation Roll?
- Concerning Jirachi's Blessings, could Heart's Fire Blessing act like a Fire Stone/Sun Stone to Pokemon with either an Surprise Upgrade!, using his immense Earthpower Specialty, using a catalyst of sorts, or just always having had it but never realizing it?

On to more recent posts....well, that's certain a most egnimatic and esoteric find you dug up, Spirit! Especially if it could manage to mind whammy you ever so slightly by reading it, even if Heart wouldn't be able to understand the Old Unown poems (As Nathan and Solomon [And maybe Sari] are the only ones fluent enough in that script to read it). Wonder what the hecky it does, though, besides sending whomever reads it into a trace like state. 

Oh, and Iron, is that Arceas Mural he dug up one big Item? If it is, can Terra's Heavy Ball contain it all? Because if it can.....I certainly would donate it towards that cause for them!

Double oh, does Heart spending an Encounter unearthing that Mural mean he can't perform the Earthpower De-Cursing Ritual on Marco? Or does that count as a free event of sorts?

Encounter-wise, the only players that haven't spent an extra one doing stuff are me and Mika, unless Terra going around pillaging the Psuedo Throne Room and being sent running by Solomon constitutes as one Encounter. If he hasn't spent an Encounter, it might be a 'good' idea if he (and Spira!) does so anyway, since everyone else is doing it and creating a delay, so he and I might as well take full advantage of it (And if he ends up keeping and holding the Frozen Roar, he'd not be penalized for it at all, really). As for what....maybe have Angie randomly Dig around the Fortress for goodies? 'Cause I don't really want to investigate his Latios Card until after Deoxys is taken care of for.....reasons, but there ain't much more to do in the fortress itself in my opinion, and I also don't want to screw around with any of the local Pokemon around (that haven't fled from Solomon's Frozen Roar).

[Spiritmon]

......Mate, I legitamately didn't mind giving The Frozen Roar over to you, as while I do adore it (Who can say no to what amounts to a different, broader, and better take of the Miracle Rod?), I honestly think it would be better off with you and Heart and you deserve it more than I (Especially seeing as you got the biggest part of the shaft when it came to obtaining the Sword for us). So if you want it, take it, and there will be no complaints coming from me.

Have it! I literally can't use the Metal Coat (Heh, made an unintention pun there, mate!) in any practical way (Aside from maybe using it as an accessory, but that's just wasteful), so anyone but me should take it, and I think YOU are the best person to own it. After all, if I recall correct you have the most Steel Type Pokemon outside of Terra, so they're plenty of worthy holder for it amoung his number.

On the topic of TFR, as I mention just a couple paragraphs ago, it's bascially a MUCH better Mircale Rod-esqe Item. To compare, The Miracle Rod granted a Base benefit of + 2 HP to Grass Types, and then gave Pokemon access to the Move Grass Knot regardless of their Type, while the Frozen Roar grants Immunity to Pain/Exhaustion Penalties as a Base Benefit to ALL types/Types of characters, and either grants the Move Frozen Roar for Pokemon or Victory Cry (to borrow a name for Shin Megami Tensi) for Humans to use against/on Pokemon as 'Moves' , again, regardless of type/Type. Honestly, it's a nice and clever way to recycle and improve upon an Item concept, so kudos for that Iron!

Speaking of the Miracle Rod, I had a funny thought about it, and looked up its original description to see if it could have been true or not: Could a Human Character have use the Miracle Rod to use Grass Knot? The original description:

' This Miracle Rod is related to a Miracle Seed. It emanates a fertilizing aura. When held, it adds two feet (and two HP) to any Grass-type Pokemon, and also allows the use of Grass Knot. '

....doesn't explicitly disallow it (Though Iron probably would have immediately veteod that, should it have ever been thought of). If we continue this 'What if's' line of thinking, if one of our characters choose to get a Grass Blessing from Jirachi, then they could have also concievably benefited of the + 2 HP/Height growth baseline benefit of the Rod, as while they're not a true Grass Type they are practically speaking embody its power (And probably would have acted like a Leaf Stone/Sun Stone) AND also have gotten pseudo STAB of Grass Knot (Which certainly would have been usable by the character at that point, if nothing else). Pretty nifty stuff, huh? Shame the power of The Miracle Rod couldn't have been fully realized and exploited, but hey, we now have the better Frozen Roar in place to joyfully find ways to abuse it! Mwahahaha!

That said, all this brainstorming got me thinking a couple of things, namely:
- Could the Frozen Roar be used by a Pokemon/Human to enhance/empower an Intimidation Roll?
- Concerning Jirachi's Blessings, could Heart's Fire Blessing act like a Fire Stone/Sun Stone to Pokemon with either an Surprise Upgrade!, using his immense Earthpower Specialty, using a catalyst of sorts, or just always having had it but never realizing it?

On to more recent posts....well, that's certain a most egnimatic and esoteric find you dug up, Spirit! Especially if it could manage to mind whammy you ever so slightly by reading it, even if Heart wouldn't be able to understand the Old Unown poems (As Nathan and Solomon [And maybe Sari] are the only ones fluent enough in that script to read it). Wonder what the hecky it does, though, besides sending whomever reads it into a trace like state. 

Oh, and Iron, is that Arceas Mural he dug up one big Item? If it is, can Terra's Heavy Ball contain it all? Because if it can.....I certainly would donate it towards that cause for them!

Double oh, does Heart spending an Encounter unearthing that Mural mean he can't perform the Earthpower De-Cursing Ritual on Marco? Or does that count as a free event of sorts?

Encounter-wise, the only players that haven't spent an extra one doing stuff are me and Mika, unless Terra going around pillaging the Psuedo Throne Room and being sent running by Solomon constitutes as one Encounter. If he hasn't spent an Encounter, it might be a 'good' idea if he (and Spira!) does so anyway, since everyone else is doing it and creating a delay, so he and I might as well take full advantage of it (And if he ends up keeping and holding the Frozen Roar, he'd not be penalized for it at all, really). As for what....maybe have Angie randomly Dig around the Fortress for goodies? 'Cause I don't really want to investigate his Latios Card until after Deoxys is taken care of for.....reasons, but there ain't much more to do in the fortress itself in my opinion, and I also don't want to screw around with any of the local Pokemon around (that haven't fled from Solomon's Frozen Roar).

Well, considering what I found I think the Frozen Roar is a amazing item...could I still keep it if you don't mind? If it can be used to ignore pain and be a better version of the Miracle Rood, it could be used even outside of battle.

If you still willing to give, I accept the Roar this time...if you still want to give of course.

[Lord Windos]

Well, considering what I found I think the Frozen Roar is a amazing item...could I still keep it if you don't mind? If it can be used to ignore pain and be a better version of the Miracle Rood, it could be used even outside of battle.

If you still willing to give, I accept the Roar this time...if you still want to give of course.

If you're still hestitant on getting it, we could always share it. Either via passing it off to each other when needed/agreed upon, or just swaping it back and forth on a day by day basis (EX: Day 1 Heart gets it, Day 2 Terra does, Day 3 Heart Gets it again, Day 4 Terra gets it again, and so on). Nothing says we can't do that, really. 

Though if you want it all for yourself, by all means grave the Frozen Roar by both hands and abuse it well! Not only do you deserve it for many reasons and I owe you, but between the sheer amount of Loot that Terra's going to bring in + Arete and all their future Mod Parts (Mecha Volcanion + Genesect Exoskeleton) I'm pretty well covered on the 'Awesome Stuff GET!' front.

[Spiritmon]

Well, considering what I found I think the Frozen Roar is a amazing item...could I still keep it if you don't mind? If it can be used to ignore pain and be a better version of the Miracle Rood, it could be used even outside of battle.

If you still willing to give, I accept the Roar this time...if you still want to give of course.

If you're still hestitant on getting it, we could always share it. Either via passing it off to each other when needed/agreed upon, or just swaping it back and forth on a day by day basis (EX: Day 1 Heart gets it, Day 2 Terra does, Day 3 Heart Gets it again, Day 4 Terra gets it again, and so on). Nothing says we can't do that, really. 

Though if you want it all for yourself, by all means grave the Frozen Roar by both hands and abuse it well! Not only do you deserve it for many reasons and I owe you, but between the sheer amount of Loot that Terra's going to bring in + Arete and all their future Mod Parts (Mecha Volcanion + Genesect Exoskeleton) I'm pretty well covered on the 'Awesome Stuff GET!' front.

Very well then. Mind if I did a little retcon of my last post? Since it could be strange from a moment Heart refuse and then the other he wants it. It could be very much rude.

[Lord Windos]

Very well then. Mind if I did a little retcon of my last post? Since it could be strange from a moment Heart refuse and then the other he wants it. It could be very much rude.

Eh, Terra wouldn't interrupt Heart wanting the Frozen Roar after all as being rude, but if you want to edit your post, that ain't a problem for me!

Also, that Arceas Mural is getting stored in his Heavy Ball if possible, as there is not WAY I'd let you/Heart miss out on obtaining such a magnificent relic!

FYI, for Humans the Frozen Roar grants them the ability to use the equivilent of Helping Hand on a Pokemon as a Trainer's Action, and may/may not be able to assist in Intimidation and/or Performance Rolls. It may also be possible to use it in Trainer/League Battles too by the Trainer, if said use is successfully/practically disguised and can be rationalized away as something else (Like acting/over exuberant commanding). Finally, due to it's nature as an Earthpower Item, Heart could possibly find ways to further jailbreak with his own Earthpower Specialty, with or without Terra's help.