10-04-2017, 11:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-04-2017, 11:47 PM by Cataclyptic.
Edit Reason: Calcs
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@shademonkey and @Dragonstrike
Seriously? Sticky Web is broken now? Le sigh.
As for Fission Burst, yes it is incredibly situation but on the scarf set you really only need three moves: Atomic Punch, fire move and fighting move to hit the entire meta with super effective damage. But because in pokemon you need another moveslot, I put Fission Burst in because it’s the only move not outclassed by the three moves I put in. However one can run both Fire Punch and Overheat I suppose.
Fallout Urayne is insane but requires some setup. (Good luck in the tourney guys!). As for calcs against walls, I did some rudimentary ones and this is the gist as far as I can tell: Urayne can 2HKO most walls but only if it hits thier wekest defensive stat. This doesn’t seem like an issue until you realize it can run physical or mixed sets with ease... meaning the wall you need to bring in has to be the one tailored to its set.
Lanthan however does a pretty good job regardless of the set, but switching in can be tricky. Maybe Superpower can outdamage Drain Punch after two turns but IDK I didn’t calc that.
Expert Belt might be a good option since it hits the meta supereffectively. I’ll run calcs sometime to see if LO or it does more damage.
And finally, no one knos how Geiger Sense works. I was the one on the wiki that proved it did nothing, but that was months ago. Maybe it only activates in double battles?
EDIT: Ran some calcs against totally defensive Lanthan, both physically and specially.
252+ Atk Urayne Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Lanthan: 200-236 (51.8 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
- Focus Blast is around the same on the special side, Drain Punch is a 3HKO. This is without Life Orb or Expert Belt.
Therefore, a wall that is dedicated physically ro specially can only be 2HKOed probably by the respective physical or special set. Same rule applies if you say, use Overheat on the physical set or Superpower on the special set: 2HKO on the walls weaker stat.
I will correct to put Superpower in front of Drain Punch on the scarf set at least, though I still believe it has a lot of utility on the Fallout set.
Seriously? Sticky Web is broken now? Le sigh.
As for Fission Burst, yes it is incredibly situation but on the scarf set you really only need three moves: Atomic Punch, fire move and fighting move to hit the entire meta with super effective damage. But because in pokemon you need another moveslot, I put Fission Burst in because it’s the only move not outclassed by the three moves I put in. However one can run both Fire Punch and Overheat I suppose.
Fallout Urayne is insane but requires some setup. (Good luck in the tourney guys!). As for calcs against walls, I did some rudimentary ones and this is the gist as far as I can tell: Urayne can 2HKO most walls but only if it hits thier wekest defensive stat. This doesn’t seem like an issue until you realize it can run physical or mixed sets with ease... meaning the wall you need to bring in has to be the one tailored to its set.
Lanthan however does a pretty good job regardless of the set, but switching in can be tricky. Maybe Superpower can outdamage Drain Punch after two turns but IDK I didn’t calc that.
Expert Belt might be a good option since it hits the meta supereffectively. I’ll run calcs sometime to see if LO or it does more damage.
And finally, no one knos how Geiger Sense works. I was the one on the wiki that proved it did nothing, but that was months ago. Maybe it only activates in double battles?
EDIT: Ran some calcs against totally defensive Lanthan, both physically and specially.
252+ Atk Urayne Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Lanthan: 200-236 (51.8 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
- Focus Blast is around the same on the special side, Drain Punch is a 3HKO. This is without Life Orb or Expert Belt.
Therefore, a wall that is dedicated physically ro specially can only be 2HKOed probably by the respective physical or special set. Same rule applies if you say, use Overheat on the physical set or Superpower on the special set: 2HKO on the walls weaker stat.
I will correct to put Superpower in front of Drain Punch on the scarf set at least, though I still believe it has a lot of utility on the Fallout set.
