[Meta Thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure 2: The Wild Lands

[Spiritmon]

Tbh, I can't say a little caugh off-guard at the moment, but I understand. I though that after everything was said and done about Oz and Seddi pasts reveal it would trigger some kind of reaction. If I knew alcohool would make Dite less receptive to the words of Oz I think I would prefer the Revive be used on them, so he would be awake and be able to process and maybe understand Oz words in coeensive way.

About Hecate...I out of ideas too. If Oz last words didn't even trigger some kind of reaction of her, I don't know what else will...

I think I will take a break for now to rethink what strategy to approach. And before you think Windos, no, I not mad at you, or how the story is going. I simple just out of ideas now what to say and what to do.

Mate, a Revive would only make them resume their previous behavior, with maybe a shred more interest in things. Hecate is a particular violent Fae that feels deeply betrayed , considers herself your child, and already knows to some degree about You. Both have good reasons not to trust or want anything to do with Oz presently, and continually trying to force any resolution early was more liable to backfire at this stage than note - which happened with Dite only, thankfully.

My friend, Glinda already gave Oz the answer to this situation: Time. It sucks having to wait on them to process things - and possibly having to rehome Dite for the healing process to truly begin - but put yourself in their shoes. Their parent (Hecate) or first Trainer (Dite) KILLED themselves for at the time no reason and seemingly spontaneously so for a Mon neither knew or had a prior relationship with. Of course they would bloody be traumatized and deeply hurt, even factoring Pokémon mentality. They’re people too, and while what you did was ultimately noble and a good, righteous thing it also was deeply wrong to do them too. 

Could this have been mitigated by informing your coven about the Sacrifice and talking it over? Maybe, but I already told you that they’d react drastically to your literally s-cidal idea, and that the shrine had means to Object to Wish interference.Even if convinced they still would be traumatized due to YOUR PC KILLING, if only in a different way.


Spirit. I’m not usually this hardline about game mechanics over story moments. But I flatly refuse not to treat Oz’ Sacrifice with anything less than severe realism and consequence. Some good, and some bad. Grand gestures and sweeping revelations only go so far, especially timed so closely to The Event and Oz still in rough shape. Do as Glinda says - give the time, then do some one one therapy with or without help. That’s your best shot for now. I’m sorry, mate.

You right. I also should be gladly that my character only loose some trust and not its life. Between the two possible consequences, I think I get the less terrible. But you are right. Me trying to haste things will not work. At all. 

I sorry if my last post sounded like I was butthurt or anything. It was not my intention, and I know I should keep trying to work things along the way. I guess time its the only path go though.

I going to change my last in the game thread since I know things will not be fix now. Give me a few minutes mate.

Edit: Done. A simple change to reflect the time it will take to fix things.

[Redstone]

Oh so many stories to tell, one of which would be really funny since that guy doesn't recognise Akamu. :x

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

...I was just typing up my response - the perfect response I had drafted up in my head - and my PC decided to just delete it. No, STRG+Z did not bring it back. Fun indeed. Writing up all again, THIS time WITH backing it up... Sorry if this takes me so long, ugh

[Mikaruge108]

...I was just typing up my response - the perfect response I had drafted up in my head - and my PC decided to just delete it. No, STRG+Z did not bring it back. Fun indeed. Writing up all again, THIS time WITH backing it up... Sorry if this takes me so long, ugh

ooof

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Wasn't expecting the girl to potentially be a floette/flabebe

[Spiritmon]

I do have a question mate: Since it will require time to Dite and Hecate to recover, should I let Dite be kept with Oz for or the best approach is temporarly let Dite be with Tiffany? I mean...You mentioned time and therapy is my best solution at the moment, and Dite at the moment don't want to have anything related to Oz. Hecate the only thing I can do is let her try to understand what happens inside her Pokeball until she felt like to talk, specially with how close the events were. Its just a question about what way I should use "time" to let things be fix.

[Lord Windos]

I do have a question mate: Since it will require time to Dite and Hecate to recover, should I let Dite be kept with Oz for or the best approach is temporarly let Dite be with Tiffany? I mean...You mentioned time and therapy is my best solution at the moment, and Dite at the moment don't want to have anything related to Oz. Hecate the only thing I can do is let her try to understand what happens inside her Pokeball until she felt like to talk, specially with how close the events were. Its just a question about what way I should use "time" to let things be fix.

Leaving Dite with Tiffany and explaining things would be the most responsible and 'easy' option, though from what Bethy would tell you her mom would both want a favor for it and would grill you about what you did at some point. How long it'd take for Dite to recover is indeterminate, but at least this method would almost guaranteed to work given the Koffee shop's whole focus.

For Hecate, time is your best option.

[Spiritmon]

...Considering how Hisuan Zoroarks are famous (or rather infamous) in spell doom and hold big grudges against people, I genuinely scared. And even if not considering that possibility, Tiffany gives Oz a strong vote of confidence. Go there now and tell everything to her would be both a defeat and a terrible situation to go though and explain. And would broke the feeling of trust with Tiffany too.

On the other hand...*sigh* Fix things by myself would takes even longer period of time. And time it's not a luxury we have, specially with a time limit we have until we be forced to face the Malus by ourselves. Not to mention I still need to train both Meza and Bethy to be ready to go into the mission. Hecate is literally Oz powerhouse and aside from the important relationship between them, there also the huge gap of power it will be needed against the Malus...

Well, I better think now what to do right away. Complain will not change a thing. Although I not complaining,  more contemplating the pros and cons of the currently situation.

[Spiritmon]

Yeah, despite the conversation and won a hard Pokemon battle, Oz still weak in the confident department. Not easy to fight against Self-doubt after years of neglection and...a failed mission where the worse failures happen ALL the same time: Failure as a Scimitar agent, failure as a healer to save her companions and best friends, and loss of her sister. Its way one path to the universe told you straight to the face you are never good enough.

And considering how Oz is kinda fatalist with the idea of how "Fate" is immutable? Yeah, not the best way to cemment all her fatalist beliefs in her soul and mind with the biggest epic fail in you career.

Damn, now I very sad for Oz again...

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Yeah, despite the conversation and won a hard Pokemon battle, Oz still weak in the confident department. (...)

Like I have told you before, I'd be pleased if she ends up taking Bernhard as a sorta role model in terms of self-awareness and self-confidence. I mean, for example, take a look how cool and collected he remains over the news of now having a Nuclearmon of unknown origin, and how clever and confident he responds and reacts to the official!

Of course and naturally it won't be easy at all. It will suck. She will hate and dislike it. Things might (and probably will) become worse before things start becoming better. But I'm positive that in some way and with enough time and the right tools, Oz can learn to accept herself to a healthy/resonable amount.

-Sincerely, someone who IRL has the self-confidence of a field mouse and her own hoarde of inner demons and trauma = I know what I'm talking about and can hard-relate with Oz

[Spiritmon]

Yeah, despite the conversation and won a hard Pokemon battle, Oz still weak in the confident department. (...)

Like I have told you before, I'd be pleased if she ends up taking Bernhard as a sorta role model in terms of self-awareness and self-confidence. I mean, for example, take a look how cool and collected he remains over the news of now having a Nuclearmon of unknown origin, and how clever and confident he responds and reacts to the official!

Of course and naturally it won't be easy at all. It will suck. She will hate and dislike it. Things might (and probably will) become worse before things start becoming better. But I'm positive that in some way and with enough time and the right tools, Oz can learn to accept herself to a healthy/resonable amount.

-Sincerely, someone who IRL has the self-confidence of a field mouse and her own hoarde of inner demons and trauma = I know what I'm talking about and can hard-relate with Oz

Agreed. I do hope Oz and Bernard do have moments to interact more, and she learned a bit more to be more self-aware and self-confidence by learn with Bernard. Bernard is literally the first Scimitar she ever meet in a long time who is very kind to her. Don't know how to bring up the thing of her be a Scimitar though. Without revealing her backstory though, based in what you send me in the message, since, well, even if Oz still a Scimitar by culture, in more technical terms she is more akin to a heretic based in what Windos said. She telling her secret to Seddi was a little more easier since he is not bound by any Scimitar code, but Mr Samsara? She fear what Bernard would do her and her sisters, specially with the knowledge they both belong to the same group. No wonder Fortuna was so adamant in not give him any of her wings or...trust Mr Samsara at all.

If I had to guess, it could be a combination of protect Oz life and identity, and maybe...Hatred? Since the lifestyle of Scimitar is what caused a lot of suffering in Oz life, so maybe Fortuna carry a huge grudge against Scimitars, with Sky Scimitars having a special place in her grudge.

This is just speculation of course, so only Windos could confirm that theory or not.

I also hope that my friend. Oz suffer a lot in life, but I do hope by the end of the campaigh she learn to fight and conquer her demons, and learn to love herself again.

Yeah...I also someone who have self-confidence issues IRL, and had a long while to get better. I get better these days but...The fight is constant and I can't let myself fail.