[Meta Thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure 2: The Wild Lands

[Spiritmon]

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The mechanic is genuinely very fun and creative.  But man, do top level singles players have mixed feelings on pokemon being able to flip their type matchups on a whim...(VGC players don't mind it at all though)

I find it really funny that some folks complain about the silly hats, suggest a bunch of smaller details to identify the type changes, and they're all details that are already implemented alongside the hats (a crystalline sheen of the type's color and particle effects swirling around the pokemon's model being the big two).  The hat just gets the most attention because it's the easiest thing to point at (which is entirely the point of it being there at all).

Seddi could have started the game with access to Windos's version of Tera, so using it ourselves is definitely a possibility down the line.  It's absolutely a mechanic I want to play around with too because of both the potential it has and the flavor of Seddi being Paldean.  Off type teras are normally pretty rare without special circumstances or outside intervention of some kind though, so expect to see a lot of default STAB Tera types.

I am actually one of the people who doesn't like Tera very much. Call me a edge guy, but they to much silly to my taste too. The crystal sheen I actually like though. It's a really cool concept the idea of changing types via a transformation, but I prefer the mechanic of mechanic of mega because there more of a strategy factor since you need to think what Pokemon you gonna choose to be use as your main one. Not mentioning not all Pokemon can access Mega Evolution, so it gives value to such power. And some of the Mega desights I really like it, although not ALL Mega Pokemon are created equally, and some of them does have lackluster desigh at least in my eyes. *Looking at you Mega Manectric*.

And as someone who was raised watching Digimon, the power to go BEYOND its limits, even if its temporary, is so much anime. 

I not shitting on Teras though. It is a really powerfull mechanic, and can be very game changing and have a important strategy. Specially if you change a Pokemon with a horrible typing to another type who can benefit of such typing. Finally can make use of Ice types with lots of Defense, like Avalugg into a Steel type! Or make Aggron into a Full Steel type!

...Just wish there are a toggle option to removed the hat and keep the Crystal Sheen skin. I think it would make things better for my eyes. That way Nintendo would keep the two sides happy: The ones who actually enjoy the hats. And the ones who don't. And it's not even a difficult change. Thats just my opinion.

[Lord Windos]

And now the master question. Does Terastallizing exist in Sutalör? I loooowkey doubt it because it's directly linked to Terrapago and Area Zero, but if it DOES exist, I'm totally interested in getting Bernhard a Terra Orb in the long run and playing around with that on top of spells. (Terastallizing Myra into Ghost-Type due to her background? Heck yes. Terrastallized Noxfor even more dragon or dark power? Heck yes x2.)

Also to quote something from the second post of this MetaThread:

(...)Mega Evo, Z-Moves, and Tera Transformation all have their special mechanics that will be revealed as PCs gain access to them(...)

.....?!

To confirm what Dragonstrike said, Terra Transformation indeed does exist in Sutalor. As for how it would work outside of Paldea...well, Terra Orbs are pretty nifty pieces of tech is all I'm going to say on the subject. Try to badger Sada about it in game if you want the nerdy in-depth explanation (if she wants to share it in the first place - said info is a Trade Secret for a good reason...) .

I'll note this down on your Wishlist, though considering that Paldea holds the monopoly on it Bern is better off trying to such up and bribe Seddi (and his bosses) into getting access to it 'legit' rather than try to stubble onto other means of pulling it off.


As for my own thoughts on Terra in the games: I don't like it very much. The ability to just 'Surprise!' your opponents and weasle out of bad matchups/certain checks always leaves a sour taste in my mouth, and getting owned by said upsets outweighs whatever satisfaction I get for pulling Terra nonsense off. It creates chicken games where either the first person who Terras loses to the other person having a perfect counter Terra in reserve OR said Terra is used juuuust at the right time for a Sweeper to do everything it needs to mow you down regardless of what you try. It's annoying, demotivating, and frustrating to play with in mind - its part of the reason why I gave up on Gen 9 comp, beyond the ban to Sleep and other stuff I won't get into.

Type Match ups are sacred is the point I'm trying to get at here. A WHOLE bunch of Mons have been banned in Singles simply because they're oppressive threats when they have Terra as a GOJF Card, and it makes certain tank mons all that much more ANNOYING to answer. It's a fun mechanic when it works for YOU, but when you're on the bad end of it....well, it ain't fun no more chief. Terra as it stands NEEDS more balancing to be actually fun AND fair for everyone - stuff like Terra Types being revealed at Team Preview, indications when a Mon will Terra, restrictions as to what Types can Terra into, etc. - but considering smogon won't do complex stuff like that and Terra has stuck around way too long as is I doubt I will get the fix it needs. Hopefully next Gen's mechanics will be better to play with competitively....if Gamefreak doesn't end up botching their next mainline release.

Of course this is only coming from someone that plays Singles and from someone that isn't the greatest at comp anyway, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. That, and conceptually I find the idea amazing and worthy of exploration - which is why I am willing to have it featured in my campaign at all.


Now, last thing : @Dragonstrike , @Spiritmon , @Redstone , and Phantom you are free to interact with the Random Recruits if you wish, as that won't take time since these fellows either ended up seeking your group out or one/multiple party members ended up stumbling upon them. Right now I believe only Spirt/Oz is actively searching for help, but if anyone else wants to 'join in' or 'grab' one of the Randoms for private chats that is okay with me.

Oh, and I'll get to your post when I'm able to dear! Things are still rather busy I'm afraid, and I would prefer getting the campaign going again ASAP after a long break. Rest assured I wont abandon your post - it'll just take awhile to give it the care it deserves as I'm juggling everything else.

[Spiritmon]

Gonna work on my next post soon. My time today is just rough because of how things are extremely wild here in home.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Gonna work on my next post soon. My time today is just rough because of how things are extremely wild here in home.

You plan to interact with any of the new recruited NPCs, Spirit? Since I'm very interested in getting that shady person and their *Toxicroak on board for you people via Bern having a quick chat with 'em. After having stepped out of the Major Encounter (and in his books failed it), I feel it to be in-chara for him to ask that particular person to help you people out in his name (at the cost of a favour, which I'm fine with and curious about). Unless you desire to have a quick chat with exactly this person already?

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Oh right, about that:

(...)To confirm what Dragonstrike said, Terra Transformation indeed does exist in Sutalor. As for how it would work outside of Paldea...well, Terra Orbs are pretty nifty pieces of tech is all I'm going to say on the subject. Try to badger Sada about it in game if you want the nerdy in-depth explanation (if she wants to share it in the first place - said info is a Trade Secret for a good reason...) .

I'll note this down on your Wishlist, though considering that Paldea holds the monopoly on it Bern is better off trying to such up and bribe Seddi (and his bosses) into getting access to it 'legit' rather than try to stubble onto other means of pulling it off.(...)

.....YIPPEEE!＼(≧▽≦)／ This delights me to no end. Thank yooouuu for the input and confirmation~ *kisses you through the screen, mwah~* Now I'm only more curious about HOW and WHY this mechanic works in Sutalör, and how it will work in-game (IF it's accessed and aquired in first place - it's a long-term goal after all, no rush at all, there's enough on my and Bern's plate that needs handling first and foremost)

Sounds to me like very good bonding- and business-opportunity between Bern and Seddi, actually and perhaps - he (and perhaps Prof.Sada) get the chance to incquire and research Zephy and Nox (since I remember both having expressed interest in these unique 'Mons on Bernhard's end), I get his and his bosses's help in legally and legitly get my hands on the Orb needed for Terastallazion. Win-win on both sides, I like it when things match up that well~


ALSO: Nah, do take any time you need to properly respond, no worries or hard feelings on that: I much rather wait and have the quality I'm used from your side than a rushed thing just for the sake or progress, even after longer break. It's much appreciated that you keep me in the books though <3 Damn you real life though, keeping apperantly all of us occupied and busy as of lately!!!

[Spiritmon]

Gonna work on my next post soon. My time today is just rough because of how things are extremely wild here in home.

You plan to interact with any of the new recruited NPCs, Spirit? Since I'm very interested in getting that shady person and their *Toxicroak on board for you people via Bern having a quick chat with 'em. After having stepped out of the Major Encounter (and in his books failed it), I feel it to be in-chara for him to ask that particular person to help you people out in his name (at the cost of a favour, which I'm fine with and curious about). Unless you desire to have a quick chat with exactly this person already?

No issue from my part! You can ask the Shady person. I more leaned to ask Skyrim help. Skarmory could help us in the battle ahead with it's Skarmory. He also have quite a rooster of moves to help: Ice Windy, Air Cutter, Roost, Night Slash, along of other good moves. Gonna talk to the guy.

[Spiritmon]

No issue from my part! You can ask the Shady person. I more leaned to ask Skyrim help.

I only noticed now I wrote Skyrim instead of Skrims. Damn it.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

(...)The question is now thus: are you willing to Accept their Help with your Gauntlet?

Everything within me says 'yes' with a hundred exclamation marks. The details and course if action needs to be determined however. 

My biggest question before thinking about these is this one, hence asking it metawise to make sure: Timing. If I DO let that...person perform the operation, will there be enough time that they can still participate in the fight in person via commanding *Toxicroak themselves? I'll be fine if this comes with the toll of it being performed in a fast manner and pain + a toll on Bern's body - even with my Gauntlet being functional again quickly I'm still dropping out of the Encounter - the offer of a way to still join is much appreciated, but I'm not brave enough to tempt fate drastically after the pre-fight before the actual SuperBoss went so wrong on Bernhard's end.

[Lord Windos]

(...)The question is now thus: are you willing to Accept their Help with your Gauntlet?

Everything within me says 'yes' with a hundred exclamation marks. The details and course if action needs to be determined however. 

My biggest question before thinking about these is this one, hence asking it metawise to make sure: Timing. If I DO let that...person perform the operation, will there be enough time that they can still participate in the fight in person via commanding *Toxicroak themselves? I'll be fine if this comes with the toll of it being performed in a fast manner and pain + a toll on Bern's body - even with my Gauntlet being functional again quickly I'm still dropping out of the Encounter - the offer of a way to still join is much appreciated, but I'm not brave enough to tempt fate drastically after the pre-fight before the actual SuperBoss went so wrong on Bernhard's end.

Let me do a quick Roll: (1)(1) Oh yes they can, with a Rare Roll like that + Zephy own somewhat divine/definitely magical aid and Nirix on standby. It'll cost Zephy 3 Will Points (or her remaining will if she has less than that), but the re-attachment surgery and tune-up would go remarkably quickly and still have plenty of time left for the agent to join up with everyone else to rush to the Super Boss before it can do STUFF. Probably want to have a Nurse or Doctor do a proper look over and follow up work on the arm later, but until then Bern would have his arm back and functional.

Fair enough - though do note that typically most Mons wouldn't have the know-how or capability to outright Target a limb like that and then immediately be able to remove it in one blow. The Maddened Masked Wolf unfortunately just so happened to be one of those clever and capable Mons. Still, the risk of DYING to the Super Boss is always a possibility and Bern isn't a risk taker or overly heroic by nature, so him not wanting ANYTHING to do with it even with getting his arm back is more than understandable.

[Spiritmon]

Man, its good to be back into action. Forgive me people for taking so long to write my post. Now we can start again into action!