[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Lord Windos]

So, about Pokemon safety:

Pokemon battling is by nature a risky endeavour. A good trainer knows when to stop, for sure.

Most trainer's Pokemon eat largely Pokemon food, and they can be perfectly healthy doing this as we've discussed.

There is some bias against predatory or otherwise scary Pokemon (Dark, Ghost, etc) but many trainers have learned to trust in their own Pokemon to defend them. Usually they will give you the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

A trainer allowing his Pokemon to eat Pokemon, as we've discussed, is seen by almost everyone as barbaric. It's not illegal, though, except in preserves or if the other Pokemon belongs to someone. The general attitude is that once a Pokemon is defeated, you leave it alone in case someone else wants to enjoy it. Many believe that even a scary Pokemon encounter is something of a blessing rather than a curse. So there's a stigma against purposely slaying especially rarer wild Pokemon.

Others are more ruthless, of course, because it takes all kinds to make a world.

So, it's fine for Ventus to believe this in character, but being horrified by a Pokemon eating Pokemon is not a knee-jerk reaction or an overreaction. It might be the sign of a more ruthless trainer (Which in this case is 100% accurate!)

Then there's more biases. Pokemon based on vertebrates (Hoothoot) often get more sympathy than a Pokemon based on an invertebrate (Spinarak). This is something Ventus would probably be more interested in, as a sociologist, if he wasn't so proud of his massive Arbok. There will definitely be lots of bias against that Pokemon - after all, it's a Team Rocket classic, and it really does have a tendency toward disobedience. (and it really is somewhat outside Ventus' control - but Ventus would do well to keep this fact a secret).

Considering that Ventus cares deeply for his friends and Pokémon (and is rather Prideful of his relationships with them), comes from an entirely different region (Unova), which has different values and culture then Chesire, lived a rather hard life that shapes his outlook into a more...pragmatic scope, and is basically pioneering a new field (Pokémon Sociology), he's was not going to act  kind to the man that slighted him and his Pokémon. Once Ventus has calmed down, he'll start to realize that maybe letting Apsis eat Hoothoot wasn't the smartest idea in this case (Fluffy Animal Bias), and take some notes down on that to remember for the future. He's still learning, after all.

The fact that he's completely clueless about this region's views on Pokémon Hunting, is desensitized towards the practice (Due to his aformention research and observation of wild predator Pokémon), and most of the party accepts what he does will just leave him in the dark about that facet of this regions cultural views. Nathan might be able to explain it to him, but he has not done so yet.

[Dragonstrike]

Welp, shame I missed out on reacting to what just happened.  Nathan would have stepped in, most likely.

Though a good reason for him not doing so is because of the big, scary arbok.  It's definitely super intimidating!  He was likely too nervous about that confrontation to do anything about it.  That's what we'll go with, I think.  Now, he needs to talk with Ventus about Arbok.  And he WILL do some thing if it happens again.

Expect to see the start of that conversation in an hour or two.

[Lord Windos]

Welp, shame I missed out on reacting to what just happened.  Nathan would have stepped in, most likely.

Though a good reason for him not doing so is because of the big, scary arbok.  It's definitely super intimidating!  He was likely too nervous about that confrontation to do anything about it.  That's what we'll go with, I think.  Now, he needs to talk with Ventus about Arbok.  And he WILL do some thing if it happens again.

Expect to see the start of that conversation in an hour or two.

I thought he was ok with Apsis hunting other Pokémon now? Or was it thinking about the greater picture that bugs him? Ventus probably realized by now that his actions were not the smartest in the situation he was in, but when two Pokémon ganged up on him, he just sorta reacted along with Arbok. That, and at some level he knew that stopping Apsis from chowing down on the Pokémon was going to be a fool's game, since it already showed a strong disobedience streak in the Gym Match and felt that it was EXTREMELY hungry. He could argue that trying to stop her could have done more harm than good in the situation he was in...

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Haha, when I reserve a post in the Game Thread, I actually wish to react to the current situation, ergo none moving on please.

[Lord Windos]

Haha, when I reserve a post in the Game Thread, I actually wish to react to the current situation, ergo none moving on please.

My love, I am currently waiting in the lobby, so you could quite easily just catch up and talk to me without reservations! Ventus is always willing to her Shiva out, even if she hurt him accidently!

[Iron]

Don't worry, sometimes things will have to happen in a flashback or a bit out of order. That's just the nature of the game. We'll only pause everything for rare super important things.

Now of course I will not advance the day while we're waiting on someone to catch up.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Haha, when I reserve a post in the Game Thread, I actually wish to react to the current situation, ergo none moving on please.

My love, I am currently waiting in the lobby, so you could quite easily just catch up and talk to me without reservations! Ventus is always willing to her Shiva out, even if she hurt him accidently!

Nevermind, I'll edit the reserved post in the way I wanted, maybe after reading you may want to edit yours too.
Huh, couldn't access the Forum until now. Thought it was down again, but it was my Internet Connection's fault. ^^

[Dragonstrike]

Welp, shame I missed out on reacting to what just happened.  Nathan would have stepped in, most likely.

Though a good reason for him not doing so is because of the big, scary arbok.  It's definitely super intimidating!  He was likely too nervous about that confrontation to do anything about it.  That's what we'll go with, I think.  Now, he needs to talk with Ventus about Arbok.  And he WILL do some thing if it happens again.

Expect to see the start of that conversation in an hour or two.

I thought he was ok with Apsis hunting other Pokémon now? Or was it thinking about the greater picture that bugs him? Ventus probably realized by now that his actions were not the smartest in the situation he was in, but when two Pokémon ganged up on him, he just sorta reacted along with Arbok. That, and at some level he knew that stopping Apsis from chowing down on the Pokémon was going to be a fool's game, since it already showed a strong disobedience streak in the Gym Match and felt that it was EXTREMELY hungry. He could argue that trying to stop her could have done more harm than good in the situation he was in...

It's definitely to do with the big picture aspect.  While Nathan was stunned by that reaction, part of him was also hoping Ventus didn't take it too far.  Nathan never really said he was okay with it, either.  Just asked Ventus to think more carefully before acting.

Fool's game or not, Ventus did nothing while Arbok terrified poor Mr. Pin and Shuckle.  Thats got repurcussions attached.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

I feel like Nathan is not only a blasted fighter, but also wants everything to be right and correct.
Not blaming him here. Too bad there are people with other aspects and opinions, though. Life isn't always fair and nice.

[Lord Windos]

Welp, shame I missed out on reacting to what just happened.  Nathan would have stepped in, most likely.

Though a good reason for him not doing so is because of the big, scary arbok.  It's definitely super intimidating!  He was likely too nervous about that confrontation to do anything about it.  That's what we'll go with, I think.  Now, he needs to talk with Ventus about Arbok.  And he WILL do some thing if it happens again.

Expect to see the start of that conversation in an hour or two.

I thought he was ok with Apsis hunting other Pokémon now? Or was it thinking about the greater picture that bugs him? Ventus probably realized by now that his actions were not the smartest in the situation he was in, but when two Pokémon ganged up on him, he just sorta reacted along with Arbok. That, and at some level he knew that stopping Apsis from chowing down on the Pokémon was going to be a fool's game, since it already showed a strong disobedience streak in the Gym Match and felt that it was EXTREMELY hungry. He could argue that trying to stop her could have done more harm than good in the situation he was in...

It's definitely to do with the big picture aspect.  While Nathan was stunned by that reaction, part of him was also hoping Ventus didn't take it too far.  Nathan never really said he was okay with it, either.  Just asked Ventus to think more carefully before acting.

Fool's game or not, Ventus did nothing while Arbok terrified poor Mr. Pin and Shuckle.  Thats got repurcussions attached.

He's not going to feel much sympathy at first to Mr. Pin at first, but if you bring up the taboo and the big picture once more, that will get Ventus to open up. I think I have identify yet another flaw of Ventus, on top of Fae Paranioa, his ruthless unfettered nature when pressured/friends are threatened, and his tendency to worry : He gets WAY to into the moment of things when in a battle. Its all about finishing the fight as fast as possible for him, in order to prevent future damage from occurring. He needs to really work on that, since he its something he can actually work on without therapy.