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08-05-2017, 08:53 PM
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I think the only big difference is that Counter and Mirror Coat are now practically the same move. It still requires an accuracy roll, so I don't think it's OP yet. And of course it will fail if they use a status move. If it feels OP later, we can change it to Mirror Coat = ranged and Counter = melee.
Wobbuffet is one of my favorites too. He is a wonderful Pokemon for a sociologist.
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(08-05-2017, 08:48 PM)Lord Windos Wrote: Then I'll just have Ventus give the boy plenty of space until we reach Winesberry, so that nothing bad can possibly happen until then! Afterwards, though...well, that depends on how things unfold. Hopefully beautifully, like an origami lotus, but it could always be a trainwreck! Though, since Ven not going to definitely find out just why Nathan is giving him the cold shoulder now (though he has a pretty good idea as to why), he might end up showing those pictures to his mother anyway....
On a different subject, how do you think Wobbuffet would function in our Pokerule game, with all the rule changes and modifications? I'm not sure myself, but I've always like the concept of the blue demon, death to all Pokémon! Mwhahahahaha!
I'd wait for my next post before you determine what Ventus might do. Though it might not change your current decision...not sure if it will.
I imagine that for balance, Mirror Coat and Counter should probably only work on moves they'd normally work on in the games. Otherwise they'd be really, really OP with just how much more efficient the pokemon's moveset becomes.
Destiny Bond is going to be dangerous again, but non-threatening as long as you don't KO the pokemon, or roll a higher initiative and can KO it before it uses the move in the round it goes down.
Safeguard is probably a niche non-issue still.
Encore and Charm from Wynaut are blegh. And Tickle if we include that event only move.
All in all, with Encore on Raphael, I doubt you'll have much to worry about. Taunt and Encore completely ruin any usual Wobbuffet.
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08-05-2017, 09:01 PM
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Hm, with multiple actions being what they are, I think I will go ahead and implement the ranged/melee rule right away. Counter works on melee attacks, Mirror Coat works on ranged attacks.
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(08-05-2017, 08:53 PM)Iron Wrote: Wobbuffet is one of my favorites too. He is a wonderful Pokemon for a sociologist.
How so? I haven't made any connections that would lead to that conclusion, but then again I am remarkable dense in certain areas.
Of course, If I make it part of my main team, then I still have Ice and Ele weaknesses to deal with for most of my team, on top of adding a Ghost and Dark weakness. Granted, Dark weakness is covered by Togekiss and Later Breloom and perhaps Mega Arbok, but Ghost is not so easy to cover for. That, and its a very reactive Pokémon, rather than proactive. Its best for it to always goes LAST in most battles, which is counter initiative to say the least.
I found another type combination that would be good for my team needs as well: Electric/Steel . Resist Ice, Elec, AND Psychic, but is quite weak to Fire, Fighting, and Ground types as a result. Which I already have counters for on my team, so that is a boon as well! It also resists Rock, Flying, Grass, and is immune to Poison, so that is nice as well! Hmm...
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Because he is so angry and inscrutable all the time. Plus he's a Psychic type. Plus he has the whole deal with his tail. Plus to use him, you have to be able to read your opponent. Plus he will frustrate all the people you interact with.
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(08-05-2017, 09:12 PM)Iron Wrote: Plus he will frustrate all the people you interact with.
Ouch.
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(08-05-2017, 09:13 PM)Dragonstrike Wrote: (08-05-2017, 09:12 PM)Iron Wrote: Plus he will frustrate all the people you interact with.
Ouch.
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(08-05-2017, 09:12 PM)Iron Wrote: Because he is so angry and inscrutable all the time. Plus he's a Psychic type. Plus he has the whole deal with his tail. Plus to use him, you have to be able to read your opponent. Plus he will frustrate all the people you interact with.
Pffft...hahahahaha! Oh, that is a nice burn, mate! 10/10 , would love to be Scalded again! Honestly, I might just keep them in my party because they would be so alike each other at this point. To heck with weakness, this is perfect right here!
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Haha I didn't even mean it as a burn initially, just that sociologists have a lot to study in Wobbuffet-human interactions.
I do think you two will be excellent companions.
@ Nylon, hope you have time to hop on and choose an encounter. If not, I'll start the Wobbuffet encounter sometime tomorrow before my D&D game, and you can take one of the other encounters whenever you arrive.
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Nylon usually doesn't get on until reeeeaaaallly early in the morning, or in the middle of the day, so likely he won't be on for the rest of the night. Guess we can call it a day for the Game thread!
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