[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Dragonstrike]

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Probably not, but then again Ventus doesn't really plan on using them all that much unless extreme fire power or its ariel capabilities are called for, and especially when he's not so mind boggling ANGRY, so hopefully their disapproval isn't THAT strong. I'm also hopping by now that Raphael would eventually head down the route of Gold's Togekiss in the Manga (if I got that character right): they become as devious/threcerous as their master does, due to being exposed so much to the 'darker' side. That, and maybe repeated Nasty Plot usage will eventually mellow it out to the idea of unnecessary brutality and extremely negative emotional reactions. If that becomes the case, then maybe I could actually bond and characterize Ven's first Pokémon a bit more...

See, one of the main reasons they've dropped off the radar in terms of being a character/out and about rather than another battler (besides Ven having soooo many other Pokeom that need characterization and fighting with the archangel being more or less counterproductive XP wise) is that their is the constant threat of them one day disagreeing with Ventus like last time. Since I shan't have a Pokémon that fights and causes my character emotional distress or overly indirectly limits what I want to do, but I still love Raphael as Ven's first Pokémon/child and don't want to separate them, I have to do a fine balancing act to keep them from having another shit fit.

This in turn make me highly hesitate to do ANYTHING characterization wise or overly use them, because at any random point in time they could go 'Shan't my Father!!!' and be subsequently given the boot, making all that investment in them all the more bitter at its loss. Combined with the fact that its actually counterproductive to use them in battles for the most part ( since gaining XP does nothing for them in most cases while it could be more readily given to other Pokémon) , and the end result is they get relegated to the side lines for long stretches of time. Add to the fact that I've/Ventus has grown MORE attached to Aspis, Lucifer, and to some extent Malphena, and its had for the little cherished cherub to get any spotlight for themselves......

Also, Cynthia giving him the Egg really does not hold anymore significance to Ventus besides the fact she gave him such a precious gift in the first place. He didn't even want it due to his fear of Fairy types and his own belief that he'd make a terrible parent, but he's sure glad Cynthia was so darn insistent about giving it over to him! Well, kinda, anyway...

If it wasn't for that scene after destroying the Den, I and Ventus would be a lot closer to Raphael, but as it stand I don't want to get too close to them anymore with that Sword of Damacles forever hanging over their head, and Ven's a whole lot more cautious about when and what he summons them for. Its also why I usually get so snippy when people bring up this issue in and out of game, since they could be responsible for Raphael having a shit fit and therefore force my hand in getting rid of them. That's why I like to request the less is said about Raphael's reaction to Ventus' actions, the better....

The difference with Togebo is that he's always been driven by his main character trait: he likes to win, and he's incredibly naughty and stubborn.  Always has been.  He didn't even evolve into a Togetic (and then Togekiss) until the very end of the HG/SS chapter due to not feeling fully connected with Gold.

I don't think Raphael is much like Togebo, tbh.

I would very much like to see more of Raphael, tbh.  There's still potential there.  So what if he gains a little exp? That's what surprises are for.  I need to use Starmie more myself for the same reason.

[Dragonstrike]

Fire Pledge is something I'm already anticipatingly seeking out for Braixen, partly because I'm enjoying these Unovian moves lots not only for their power but for what can be done with them if combined correctly, and mostly because it's practically fire magic that just matches my fierly fox like nothing. <3 Curious to see what idea you've brought up for these, Iron!~

If you want that Snivy, go and take it, I don't mind. I'm loving the whole evo-line, but outta-chara I've played with this grassy snake in the official Games often enough + bred enough Snivys in Gen.7 that I'm satisfied, in-chara Shiva already has enough Pokemon that she'd like to bond with and train, and Snivys aren't hard to obtain to breed more later down the line if you're a native Unovian and have a Prof.Breeder as your dad.

Well, no combinations required here for their effects, but they certainly are unique, I'll give them that.

Alright guess I'm going after Snivy, then.  Only question that remains is how...

In this case I think I will send both Abbadon and Rose in battle. Grass/bug type from the Paras will add a extra power from the move Flare Blitz. Or should I use other Pokemon like Koa, Patrat or Viktor (Trevenant don't have weakness against bug-type as other Bug Pokemon). 

Flare Blitz is certainly waaayyyy overkill.  Flame Wheel/Ember will probably suffice, particularly against Paras, and particularly if they happen to have Dry Skin instead of Effect Spore (6 D6 damage + 2-3 damage is a lot solely because of SE damage)

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Something's ominously whispering to me that they won't feature Dry Skin in this kind of environment, and Flare Blitz would be more safe to defeat one of these foes quickly. *shrugs*

[Dragonstrike]

Something's ominously whispering to me that they won't feature Dry Skin in this kind of environment, and Flare Blitz would be more safe to defeat one of these foes quickly. *shrugs*

Flare Blitz probably would beat one of them quickly, but it'd also be liable to do heavy damage to Rose with the recoil.  Even if these Paras have 2 or even 3 Vitality (and thus 5-6 HP), a single Gust or Ember/Flame Wheel could be enough on their own to KO them or force them to flee outright, with or without Dry Skin and/or Blaze.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

If I had the choice of orders and the matching Stats I know what move I'd choose, in the end it's Heart's own decision, so it's not too much use to discuss it.

If usinng a Fire Move that contains open flames accidently causes the mats of roots catch fire, both me and Heart can quickly extinguish that as well.

[Spiritmon]

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Fire Pledge is something I'm already anticipatingly seeking out for Braixen, partly because I'm enjoying these Unovian moves lots not only for their power but for what can be done with them if combined correctly, and mostly because it's practically fire magic that just matches my fierly fox like nothing. <3 Curious to see what idea you've brought up for these, Iron!~

If you want that Snivy, go and take it, I don't mind. I'm loving the whole evo-line, but outta-chara I've played with this grassy snake in the official Games often enough + bred enough Snivys in Gen.7 that I'm satisfied, in-chara Shiva already has enough Pokemon that she'd like to bond with and train, and Snivys aren't hard to obtain to breed more later down the line if you're a native Unovian and have a Prof.Breeder as your dad.

Well, no combinations required here for their effects, but they certainly are unique, I'll give them that.

Alright guess I'm going after Snivy, then.  Only question that remains is how...

In this case I think I will send both Abbadon and Rose in battle. Grass/bug type from the Paras will add a extra power from the move Flare Blitz. Or should I use other Pokemon like Koa, Patrat or Viktor (Trevenant don't have weakness against bug-type as other Bug Pokemon). 

Flare Blitz is certainly waaayyyy overkill.  Flame Wheel/Ember will probably suffice, particularly against Paras, and particularly if they happen to have Dry Skin instead of Effect Spore (6 D6 damage + 2-3 damage is a lot solely because of SE damage)

Something's ominously whispering to me that they won't feature Dry Skin in this kind of environment, and Flare Blitz would be more safe to defeat one of these foes quickly. *shrugs*

Something's ominously whispering to me that they won't feature Dry Skin in this kind of environment, and Flare Blitz would be more safe to defeat one of these foes quickly. *shrugs*

Flare Blitz probably would beat one of them quickly, but it'd also be liable to do heavy damage to Rose with the recoil.  Even if these Paras have 2 or even 3 Vitality (and thus 5-6 HP), a single Gust or Ember/Flame Wheel could be enough on their own to KO them or force them to flee outright, with or without Dry Skin and/or Blaze.

If I had the choice of orders and the matching Stats I know what move I'd choose, in the end it's Heart's own decision, so it's not too much use to discuss it.

If usinng a Fire Move that contains open flames accidently causes the mats of roots catch fire, both me and Heart can quickly extinguish that as well.

Indeed Flare Blitz might be a dangerous move to use, but against such foes it pretty useful. With Shiva help we might be not have many problems against them. If Rose receive to much damage, I still have the potions and there is Gustav Mega Launcher. Gustav can heal later Shiva Pokemon too just to make sure. Might be a good idea to begin with Flame Wheel just to make sure nothing bad will happen.

[Spiritmon]

Since there is no hour to iron gonna play Skyrim for a while

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

As said, it's not yet written in stone that I'm taking the Encounter of Paras/Shroomish! D: If Shiva gets the feeling that these are agressive and instead of caring for the food she'll offer might release spores at her, then I'd rather turn around and let her cowardly side win to do a Training Session involving obtaining some of the ferns themselves. We'd be sorry for Heart... But somehow I'm positive that this will not be necessary and we can make it if we only get to cast that Safeguard in time thanks to my set-up.

And I'm somewhat feeling sorry for Ventus now, @Lord Windos :C Outta-chara, that is, in-chara Shiva not feeling too bad, and we both understand why he's in such a bad mood and acts the way he does. When do you think will be be better (approximately), and there likely is nothing Shiva can do to make him feel better, correct? Like, she has been there for him always, and the best she can do now is leave him alone and grant the space he needs to cope.

[Lord Windos]

And I'm somewhat feeling sorry for Ventus now, @Lord Windos :C Outta-chara, that is, in-chara Shiva not feeling too bad, and we both understand why he's in such a bad mood and acts the way he does. When do you think will be be better (approximately), and there likely is nothing Shiva can do to make him feel better, correct? Like, she has been there for him always, and the best she can do now is leave him alone and grant the space he needs to cope.

Ven's likely going to be in a foul mood until the group confronts/is confronted by the Scimitars, at which point he's liable to go straight for the jugular of each and everyone one of them if nobody objects. They seriously cheesed him off with not only their practice of 'magic' and constant interference, but also for blatently brainwashing and destroying a living thing's emotions and free will, all of which are great big buttons by themselves that should NOT be pressed, but together......

Well, its likely going to be bad times for them if he gets his way. Very. Bad. Times.

In any case, the best approach would be to leave him well alone and avoid provoking him if at all possible. Its not hyperbole to say he's murderously mad right about now, though not to the point he'd start indiscriminately killing Wild Pokémon or otherwise.....

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Oi, it'll be a bloodstained mess!~ Hey, I said I'm fine with the story being darker, so I don't mind. Shiva won't either, but hopefully she can make it to have him agree to not kill 'em in front of the others of the group, as that'd MAYBE be a bit too much. (?) She herself and me want to feed any Solosis we encounter to Poochyena after having fainted it, so there's that. Maybe...working together that Ven faints them in any way he wants and then it's feeding time for the butterwolfly would allow him to thaw a bit, Windos?

Though now I hope that we'll meet the Scimitars SOON, but that hope's likely in vain as they're near the entrance of Mount Sentry. ._. Shiva will leave Ven alone if he continues to silently ask for it, but now she herself is alone in having to cope with being locked away from daylight for who-knows how long. She won't do well, and will miss the oddball by her side eventually, but she'll hold on if she has to. Hopefully she won't become depressed again in the process, but now the odds point to that she WILL... Guess that's the price to pay?

If there'll be Encounters where we have to work together or discuss things to find a solution, I hope we can still work together relatively normal.