[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

It's not just these pillars, they're also having Light Screen and Reflect. Cottonee can ignore them with her Ability and SE-Dark/Bug/Ghost Type moves nullify them, however.

[Lord Windos]

(Which means I suggest you send out Pokémon that are Resistent or Immune to ground moves, guys, because Ventus is going to order Valder to summon Haunter and Mamo to both piece and bypass cover with Shadow Balls and Earthquake!)

I have an idea to remove that cover, actually.  I really don't want Valder to start throwing around EQs that could potentially hurt us far more than it'll hurt the Reuniclus.

You mean Rock Smashing it to pieces, right? Doesn't do much about those Screens they have up, but hey, better than naught am I right? Mamo can still do that AND throw out EQs if necessary, so we can compromise here!

[Dragonstrike]

Unfortunately, without Defog/Brick Break, there's not much we can do about Light Screen and Reflect at all.

EQ isn't the only big attack Mamo has.  He also has Powder Snow.  Yes, it's going to be a lot weaker, but Valder has 5 Strength and the move also doesn't hit your allies.  I'd much rather he use that than EQ (Nathan only has 1 Pokemon that is resistant to ground, not including Ditto, who'd have to spend an Action Transforming)

[Iron]

How about Shield break moves?

Viktor should be able to bypass simple cover with Phantom Force because that's what it does, but it won't remove their cover at all.

I was moreso thinking about a certain move we all have at our disposal...

Rock Smash.  @Iron, would that break the pillars?

One Rock Smash will go right through one pillar, yeah.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

One Rock Smash will go right through one pillar, yeah.

And it won't cause or threathen to cause a cave-in or similar? That's my biggest worry.

[Lord Windos]

Unfortunately, without Defog/Brick Break, there's not much we can do about Light Screen and Reflect at all.

EQ isn't the only big attack Mamo has.  He also has Powder Snow.  Yes, it's going to be a lot weaker, but Valder has 5 Strength and the move also doesn't hit your allies.  I'd much rather he use that than EQ (Nathan only has 1 Pokemon that is resistant to ground, not including Ditto, who'd have to spend an Action Transforming)

Iron said that Spread Moves won't hit them unless we get them out from cover, though, and their is always the likely chance they'll simply move behind new Pillars everytime we smash the one they're behind. Earthquake hurts us all, yes, but at least its expedient, and we have both Ralts and Gustav + Revives to get everyone back to full post battle.

That, and at least Valder (Stand on the Mamoth!), Shiva + 1 Other (With Tropius, if she decides to change her Pokémon sent out) can outright avoid EQ, Viktor can Phantom Force through it, Ven's Pokémon are Immune, and Ditto could certainly Transform into a Tropius or large flying critter so that two more people can avoid the quakes. It'll take an action to do so, but it would work.

[Iron]

No, I said spread moves would be affected by cover. Cover reduces the damage dice.

You don't know if there could be a cave in, but you would expect the risk to be proportional to the amount of pillars destroyed.

[Lord Windos]

No, I said spread moves would be affected by cover. Cover reduces the damage dice.

You don't know if there could be a cave in, but you would expect the risk to be proportional to the amount of pillars destroyed.

Which along side Powder Snow's relatively Weak BP and Light Screen + Reflect subtracting 1 Damage + Whatever Defenses these guys have, using it is still a poor option compared to just going with EQ. That, and if we don't destroy the pillars holding up this section of these tunnels, then EQ is less likely to cause cave ins then just Rock Smashing and praying the ceiling doesn't collapse. Still fairly certain that Mamo should use that move in conjuction with us minimizing the damage it would do to us would be the best course of action.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

That, and at least Valder (Stand on the Mamoth!), Shiva + 1 Other (With Tropius, if she decides to change her Pokémon sent out) can outright avoid EQ, Viktor can Phantom Force through it, Ven's Pokémon are Immune, and Ditto could certainly Transform into a Tropius or large flying critter so that two more people can avoid the quakes. It'll take an action to do so, but it would work.

How about we'll let @Nylon decide on his own which Pokemon and moves to use? I personally would avoid using Earthquake however to keep things - and us - safe, even if Cottonee is resistant against it as it sounds like it'd work, indeed Windos, but it's too risky for my taste. Climbing onto Mamo to avoid being hit sounds like an idea however, how much room is on his back, @Iron? That, and if I'd use Tropius as a mount during the battle, he'll still count as a third Pokemon being used despite receiving no orders, or will he?

I'm sticking with using Cottonee and Mightyena however for their own reasons.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

(...) if we don't destroy the pillars holding up this section of these tunnels, then EQ is less likely to cause cave ins then just Rock Smashing and praying the ceiling doesn't collapse. Still fairly certain that Mamo should use that move in conjuction with us minimizing the damage it would do to us would be the best course of action.

Alright, I guess that changes my mind a little, as I'm down for everything that will NOT bring a risk of us being buried alive so close to our quest destination.