[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Dragonstrike]

Well, she doesn't know in-chara for certain that it's also a Grass Type as it hasn't been stated, she believes it's a pure Rock Type.

Aside from the rocky 'warts' and the geode replacing the bulb, it looks like a normal Bulbasaur for the most part.  Pretty safe to assume that it's a Grass/Rock type just by looking at it, imo, given that plant matter is a part of its body.  Plus, 'not poisonous' was meant to imply only the Poison typing wasn't present.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

In your opinion that may be true and make sense, but it's still me who decides what my playable chara thinks or believes, so if I say she assumes Primal Bulbasaur to be a pure Rock Type, please accept that she does so.

[Lord Windos]

Phantom dear, your being arguementative again over a small detail like P-Bulba's typing. Please don't let yourself get riled...

Hariyama isn't out, but Michael (The Breloom) is along with Melly and Meowth (Who is doing his own thing without Terra's supervision but his permission until its time to leave), so Wild P-Bulba could have been provoked by the martial mushroom instead quite easily.

Iron, is it possible for Terra to backtrack out of the cave by memory/Melly's help, and simply wait out the worst of the blindness? Or possibly get an Alert and/or Evasion Roll to prevent him from being blinded in the first place, since his High Survival + Middling Alert + Actually seeing Wild P. Bubla and remembering what happened last time could give him enough time to simply.....cover his eyes, dive to the floor, or press his face against Melly's side to block the FLASH. Unless P-Bubla just gets to fire off a FLASH without an Alert Roll for us to react to, in which case *Shrugs* oh well....

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Phantom dear, your being arguementative again over a small detail like P-Bulba's  typing. Please don't let yourself get riled...

I haven't even started any argument in that direction but replied to it to make my point when it came up here, I... was simply asking in-game in a haste and fury for anyone of the group inflicting any Status Alignment on that wild Primal Bulbasaur! o(TヘTo)

[Lord Windos]

Phantom dear, your being arguementative again over a small detail like P-Bulba's  typing. Please don't let yourself get riled...

I haven't even started any argument in that direction but replied to it to make my point when it came up here, I... was simply asking in-game in a haste and fury for anyone of the group inflicting any Status Alignment on that wild Primal Bulbasaur! o(TヘTo)

Oh. Well, sorry for the mistaken assumption then, my dear. It just sounded/read like you and Dragonstrike were getting into a row over something, so I wanted to curtail that fight ASAP. 

If Melly isn't blinded by P-Bulba. , she can contribute to the Status Barrage with Thunder Fang, and Gothitelle could always Flatter it to Confuse the poor bugger too. Other than that, nothing else can really be done to incapacitate that Bulba anymore Status wise, though Telekinesis is certainly a good idea!

I'd like to wait on doing anything with Terra until Iron has responded to my own earlier inquires, though, so...

[Dragonstrike]

If Melly isn't blinded by P-Bulba. , she can contribute to the Status Barrage with Thunder Fang, and Gothitelle could always Flatter it to Confuse the poor bugger too. Other than that, nothing else can really be done to incapacitate that Bulba anymore Status wise, though Telekinesis is certainly a good idea!

I'd like to wait on doing anything with Terra until Iron has responded to my own earlier inquires, though, so...

Melly wasn't targeted by FLASH, so yeah, I think she could attack P-Bulba so long as it doesn't use FLASH again and blind her.  She could also just straight up T-Wave the rocky 'saur to get off Paralysis guaranteed.

Juliet could attempt to use Attract as well once she's out, and it'd be just as (very) likely to succeed as last time (and potentially be more effective to boot if this one doesn't have a +1 Insight Surprise like Ray does and hasn't dumped any exp into increasing its Insight naturally).  But that's not happening until Nathan can see again.





Funnily enough, Flinching also counts as a Status ailment according to the book, though it's relative short time in effect makes it unwieldy to use as a tool for catching pokemon (particularly if you're trying to catch pokemon without damaging them).  Disable counts too in Pokerole, much like Infatuation and Confusion.

In theory, I think a pokemon could have up to a total of...-8 Will from Status conditions alone (I personally don't think it'd make much sense for a pokemon to be both Burned and Frozen simultaneously since any Fire move used on the frozen pokemon thaws it instantly).  Disable, Confusion, Infatuation, Poison, Burn/Freeze, Paralysis, Sleep, Flinch.  Inflicting enough of those and coupling it with any amount of Pain would allow you to catch any non-plot deviced pokemon with just a normal pokeball with relative ease (since the maximum Will any standard character can have is 10).  Or you could just inflict all the non-damaging ones/ones that are only inflicted by damaging moves (everything except Burn, Poison, Flinch, and Freeze [not counting Deep Freeze]) and they'd still have -5 Will before Pain.

Of course, a pokemon might not take too kindly to being harried and annoyed like that even if you don't use any of the damage related statuses.

[Lord Windos]

Melly wasn't targeted by FLASH, so yeah, I think she could attack P-Bulba so long as it doesn't use FLASH again and blind her.  She could also just straight up T-Wave the rocky 'saur to get off Paralysis guaranteed.

Juliet could attempt to use Attract as well once she's out, and it'd be just as (very) likely to succeed as last time (and potentially be more effective to boot if this one doesn't have a +1 Insight Surprise like Ray does and hasn't dumped any exp into increasing its Insight naturally).  But that's not happening until Nathan can see again.


Funnily enough, Flinching also counts as a Status ailment according to the book, though it's relative short time in effect makes it unwieldy to use as a tool for catching pokemon (particularly if you're trying to catch pokemon without damaging them).  Disable counts too in Pokerole, much like Infatuation and Confusion.


In theory, I think a pokemon could have up to a total of...-8 Will from Status conditions alone (I personally don't think it'd make much sense for a pokemon to be both Burned and Frozen simultaneously since any Fire move used on the frozen pokemon thaws it instantly).  Disable, Confusion, Infatuation, Poison, Burn/Freeze, Paralysis, Sleep, Flinch.  Inflicting enough of those and coupling it with any amount of Pain would allow you to catch any non-plot deviced pokemon with just a normal pokeball with relative ease (since the maximum Will any standard character can have is 10).  Or you could just inflict all the non-damaging ones/ones that are only inflicted by damaging moves (everything except Burn, Poison, Flinch, and Freeze [not counting Deep Freeze]) and they'd still have -5 Will before Pain.

Of course, a pokemon might not take too kindly to being harried and annoyed like that even if you don't use any of the damage related statuses.

Well, sounds like Melly will be giving a helping shock in catching that rascally, dazzling dino!

If this one is female, then Juliet's Infuatuation ain't doing a thing to it regardless, unless it happens to be the rare homosexual Pokémon, which would be....interesting, to say the least.

Hariyama and Meowth could always apply Flitch guaranteed with Fake Out, and if held back its unlikely either will do enough damage to serious hurt P-Bulba. All it would take is just coordinating a Pokeball being tossed out right after/while its Flinched, which may or may not be possible. Iron, is it?

Don't have any Pokémon capable of Disabling myself, but I'm wondering if Ghost Curse could count as a 'status' , given its mechanics in PokeRole. At the very least, it will ACT like it has one, what with it being liberal with the (1)(1) s …

If you want to be an utter arse/bastard too and don't mind collateral damage, Spite, Grudge, and/or Destiny Bond could be neat ways to make captures easier, as the former two moves directly attack the Will of a Pokémon without 'hurting it', while Destiny Bond just makes sure a Pokémon Faints if the user Faints, not necessarily Damaging the foe. Pressure can also halve Will of Targets, so having a Mon with that Ability out + Inflicting Status and/or Ghost Shenanigans would probably trivialize captures, or make even the unruliest Wild Pokémon less of a chore.

Fainting is technically also considered a Status Condition, so that jumps to - 13 Will on a Capture if you don't mind pulverizing a Pokémon first before tossing out a ball. Its why I always grab regular Pokeballs and only grab the odd Ultra or niche ball like Dusk + Net, since if you have plenty of Statusers and don't mind KOing everything you fight, its not like you need more than 2 Success most of the time. When you DO, those are the moments you break out the special Balls!

Well, of course not, but its at least 'better' than being brutalized to within an inch of their life, so its not that bad comparatively speaking.

[Dragonstrike]

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If this one is female, then Juliet's Infuatuation ain't doing a thing to it regardless, unless it happens to be the rare homosexual Pokémon, which would be....interesting, to say the least.

Hariyama and Meowth could always apply Flitch guaranteed with Fake Out, and if held back its unlikely either will do enough damage to serious hurt P-Bulba. All it would take is just coordinating a Pokeball being tossed out right after/while its Flinched, which may or may not be possible. Iron, is it?

Don't have any Pokémon capable of Disabling myself, but I'm wondering if Ghost Curse could count as a 'status' , given its mechanics in PokeRole. At the very least, it will ACT like it has one, what with it being liberal with the (1)(1) s …

If you want to be an utter arse/bastard too and don't mind collateral damage, Spite, Grudge, and/or Destiny Bond could be neat ways to make captures easier, as the former two moves directly attack the Will of a Pokémon without 'hurting it', while Destiny Bond just makes sure a Pokémon Faints if the user Faints, not necessarily Damaging the foe. Pressure can also halve Will of Targets, so having a Mon with that Ability out + Inflicting Status and/or Ghost Shenanigans would probably trivialize captures, or make even the unruliest Wild Pokémon less of a chore.

Fainting is technically also considered a Status Condition, so that jumps to - 13 Will on a Capture if you don't mind pulverizing a Pokémon first before tossing out a ball. Its why I always grab regular Pokeballs and only grab the odd Ultra or niche ball like Dusk + Net, since if you have plenty of Statusers and don't mind KOing everything you fight, its not like you need more than 2 Success most of the time. When you DO, those are the moments you break out the special Balls!

Well, of course not, but its at least 'better' than being brutalized to within an inch of their life, so its not that bad comparatively speaking.

Of course, but given that Bulbasaur (typically) have a 7:1 Male:Female ratio, the odds are (probably) rather good if the gender is randomized instead of set in stone.  Always worth a try, right?

I think that should be doable, given my conditions for throwing a pokeball while catching Ray as a recent example.  Of course, it's kinda hard to throw a pokeball with any accuracy if you're blinded...

I'd personally be inclined to say it's not classified as one (as then you'd have a precedent for saying other things like Telekinesis and such could count as statuses), but given that it basically adds a -1 success to all rolls, yeah, that's still pretty dang effective...

Ghosts are fun like that  So many ways to cripple you without actually KOing you directly...it only takes one lucky ghost among a hoard to bring a tough opponent down a peg.  Or make them fall off the ladder entirely.  And yup, Pressure is great, too!  (And as a bonus, is a real nasty piece o' work if your opponent only has 1 Will left before Pressure is applied)

I wouldn't say Fainting is technically a Status, tbh.  That's a thing all its own.

Sure.  So long as you don't inflict any of the 3 statuses that could kill the pokemon if left untreated.  Poison, Burn, and (sometimes) Freeze are scary statuses.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Okay, I've edited my orders a bit incl. Tanukizoon detecting the wild Primal Bulbasaur as the attacker.

I think I also decided which of my fairies will learn Dazzling Gleam via the TM given how each reacted to the disk in a small flashforward - Should I spoil it? I don't really want to if I don't have to or you're being very curious.

[Spiritmon]

Well there is a few things I could do: I could use Alphonse Hypnosis to put P-Bulba to sleep, Confuse Ray of Viktor or Fake Out of Meowth. Buuuut right now Heart is very pissed of because he get ambushed again. He would probably faint that P-Bulba or...*Looking the Pink Nuzleaf from Mt. Sentry* Yeah. That's not gonna be easy. Just let me write Heart reaction of everything. I sick and tired from yesterday. Work in the college yesterday.