[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

That means I'll assume Fairy Type is a thing and Pokemon/moves of this type are safe to use as it always existed, mankind just accepted it as a real and offcial Type relatively recently, alright?

[Dragonstrike]

That means I'll assume Fairy Type is a thing and Pokemon/moves of this type are safe to use as it always existed, mankind just accepted it as a real and offcial Type relatively recently, alright?

I'm not sure it works like that, tbh...given that Fairy resists Fighting and a bunch of Normal types (a type weak to Fighting) were retconned into being Fairy types in gen 6...

I'm calling alternate dimension shenanigans.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

I'm prefering to follow what I'm feeling is correct and logical to me or what Gamemaster tells me, but given that I'm not fighting at the moment it's not that important to discuss and safely determine now.

[Iron]

That means I'll assume Fairy Type is a thing and Pokemon/moves of this type are safe to use as it always existed, mankind just accepted it as a real and offcial Type relatively recently, alright?

I was thinking canonically there's always been a fairy type, not that it was recently "discovered" as that wouldn't make any sense. Surely you'd notice how good Poison was against Clefairy?

But if you want, we could explore how Fairy has become more accepted as a serious type and not just trivia. A lot of the Fairies can only be caught in unusual circumstances. Snubbull, Jigglypuff, Cottonee, and Marill are the only common Fairies, and only Whimsicott and Azumarill is respected in battle. The Ralts line has always been respected in battle, but it's pretty rare and used more for its Psychic attributes than its Fairy. Same is true for Azumarill - people probably don't train Play Rough on it all that often.

[Mikaruge108]

Quick question: Flame Body uses 3CD, right? (Conveniently the Dice app I just put on my phone can roll 3 Dice at a time.)

[Dragonstrike]

A lot of the Fairies can only be caught in unusual circumstances. Snubbull, Jigglypuff, Cottonee, and Marill are the only common Fairies, and only Whimsicott and Azumarill is respected in battle. The Ralts line has always been respected in battle, but it's pretty rare and used more for its Psychic attributes than its Fairy. Same is true for Azumarill - people probably don't train Play Rough on it all that often.

And Togepi is traditionally a sign of trust from highly respected people such as Johto's Kimono Girls!  Quite possibly one of the rarest Fairies to have as a result, since they're almost impossible to find in the wild (in the games, anyways. Wild Togepi are always in very special areas/exceptions to the rules).

And the only Fairy type attacking move they learn without a TM or tutor is Fairy Wind, so it'd make sense that'd nobody would ever use it for its Fairy STAB once it has more powerful moves at its disposal that equal or exceed a STAB Fairy Wind's Power.

[Dragonstrike]

Quick question: Flame Body uses 3CD, right? (Conveniently the Dice app I just put on my phone can roll 3 Dice at a time.)

Correct, and it's triggered whenever the opponent makes contact with the user.

Don't worry about rolling the dice yourself, though.  Iron does all of that on his end.  We just give him the orders and correct him when he gets something wrong/forgets something.

[Lord Windos]

My stance on the Fairy type thing is that it either always existed in the Games after Gen 6/in Iron's campaign (Alt timeline shenanigans), or some event/force of nature happened that caused all those Pokémon to unlock their latent fae nature. Either way, Fairy types are more or less a permenant thing in any timeline, so their existence in the past shouldn't had been worried about unless Iron called negative attention to it.

Quote Iron: 'Sounds like a plan! And that's how you politely handle interparty conflict, good job!'

I figured that if Nathan/Dragonstrike were going to insist on charging off into dangerous without asking for help, I'd jolly well let them do just that and not argue with the anymore over the issues. This happened to neatly coincide with Terra's stance on helping others and his duty to protect the group/Shiva, so he's not acting OOC by not joining up with them/Heart. Plus, had and Spiritmon tried to more forcibly stop Nathan/Dragonstrike from doing what they want, you'd probably overrule us on the ground of it being too interfering and not justified, so there's that as well to consider.

Personally, I don't like it when someone goes off to do their own thing if the whole group is involved in a given Encounter/Event/Scenario/Journey etc.. , as I find it both reckless and inconsiderate of the other people/charas. you are playing with. There are exception to this, obviously, like if said person clearly states what they plan to do and/or stay out of it, but by and large I have a general dislike of such actions since forces everyone else to react to whatever someone is doing.

In cases like where someone goes straight into a dangerous situation while the group is together without either DIRECT warning or request/denials of help, or does something particular not well thought out, its even worse, as it forces players to make a snap decision to either support their recklessness/heroics to protect them (and putting themselves/their Pokémon in danger too and potentially overcomplicating things as a consequences), or leave them to their devices to keep themselves safe + uninvolved and look/feel like an ass for leaving them to the Mightyenas. It doesn't quite take away our choices in such matters, but it still leans heavily enough to make it annoying and unfun.

That's part of the reason why I was so insistence on Dragonstrike at least announcing his place/requests for help/not , with the other being that it just seems like common sense to do that for such a smart cookie. Heroics are all fine and good, but you got to temper them with caution and Knowledge or things will gone belly up.

Unless Nathan was trying to indirectly strong arm/manipulate the rest of the group to joining him in the Fight without giving us the chance to talk things over OOC/IC. In which case, that IS clever and good planning since Heart ended up joining, which save him time explaining things and more justify his immediate action. If that is the case.....well, I don't find it particularly nice, but hey, if it works, it works...

[Dragonstrike]

Gee, that sounds a lot like something that Terra did fairly recently...hmmm...

[Lord Windos]

Gee, that sounds a lot like something that Terra did fairly recently...hmmm...

What was that again, exactly? Even if he did end up doing something like that, it still doesn't make it any MORE okay for Nathan to do it too. In fact, it should have served as an example to do the opposite, really.