[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Lord Windos]

You know, I find it ironic and funny that Delta Corsola is an aggressively defensive Water/Poison type, as it's basically an expy of its big predators Marinee/Toxapex, right down to having the same useful HA and general role. The only thing its missing is Baneful Bunker/A Protect Move, in all honesty! On that note, I'll ask again if anyone's interested in having them for a fair price, as they are overall a great Pokemon - just one that Terra might not have much need for, compared to Lapis, Posei, and his Swolturtle.

Anyone have any guess as to what the Safari Crown is, btw?

Oh, and just for the record I'm increasing Terra's Science Chemistry by 2 Points for 18 XP, as fighting Mutant Octillery and all those Poison Pokemon has aroused and got him thinking about the culinary arts + the applications of Poison in food/medicine/weapons etc..

[Dragonstrike]

You know, I find it ironic and funny that Delta Corsola is an aggressively defensive Water/Poison type, as it's basically an expy of its big predators Marinee/Toxapex, right down to having the same useful HA and general role. The only thing its missing is Baneful Bunker/A Protect Move, in all honesty! On that note, I'll ask again if anyone's interested in having them for a fair price, as they are overall a great Pokemon - just one that Terra might not have much need for, compared to Lapis, Posei, and his Swolturtle.

Anyone have any guess as to what the Safari Crown is, btw?

Might have to wait until after the tournament before anything is arranged, though, given that first Prize is a boatload of cash and a Safari Zone native Delta Pokemon of your choice.  I'm definitely still considering it, though.  I imagine Heart might potentially be more interested IC than Nathan, though. Would definitely be interesting to see a Delta Corsoreef if enough time was spent bonding with them, I think.

I think I have a guess.  I think Nathan might have some pictures he could compare it to as well, though I doubt they'll be a perfect match. And I won't say any more than that for the time being!

[Spiritmon]

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Dragonstrike, Spiritmon, if you want Delta Corsola, then make me an offer! If not, do you recommend I'd keep them or not? Kinda leaning both ways on them, tbh, so I need to think about it for awhile

You know, I find it ironic and funny that Delta Corsola is an aggressively defensive Water/Poison type, as it's basically an expy of its big predators Marinee/Toxapex, right down to having the same useful HA and general role. The only thing its missing is Baneful Bunker/A Protect Move, in all honesty! On that note, I'll ask again if anyone's interested in having them for a fair price, as they are overall a great Pokemon - just one that Terra might not have much need for, compared to Lapis, Posei, and his Swolturtle.

Anyone have any guess as to what the Safari Crown is, btw?

Oh, and just for the record I'm increasing Terra's Science Chemistry by 2 Points for 18 XP, as fighting Mutant Octillery and all those Poison Pokemon has aroused and got him thinking about the culinary arts + the applications of Poison in food/medicine/weapons etc..

You know, I find it ironic and funny that Delta Corsola is an aggressively defensive Water/Poison type, as it's basically an expy of its big predators Marinee/Toxapex, right down to having the same useful HA and general role. The only thing its missing is Baneful Bunker/A Protect Move, in all honesty! On that note, I'll ask again if anyone's interested in having them for a fair price, as they are overall a great Pokemon - just one that Terra might not have much need for, compared to Lapis, Posei, and his Swolturtle.

Anyone have any guess as to what the Safari Crown is, btw?

Might have to wait until after the tournament before anything is arranged, though, given that first Prize is a boatload of cash and a Safari Zone native Delta Pokemon of your choice.  I'm definitely still considering it, though.  I imagine Heart might potentially be more interested IC than Nathan, though.  Would definitely be interesting to see a Delta Corsoreef if enough time was spent bonding with them, I think.

I think I have a guess.  I think Nathan might have some pictures he could compare it to as well, though I doubt they'll be a perfect match.  And I won't say any more than that for the time being!

Well, I have a slight idea about what is that crow. Maybe its is more or less like that crown back in Mt. Sentry, when Valder evolve his Pawniard in Keenglave. Maybe that crown its a alternative evolution item. But I have no idea for what Pokemon can evolve. Maybe one of our Pokemon can evolve though it. At least its what I think.

Also, I have a few offers for that Delta Corsola: The two Kanghaskan I have capture it, a Gligar (with or without the Razor Claw, but I might keep the Claw), Marowak, or Rhyhorn because you can sell him later or trade for good items/Poke.

I was thinking if you are interested in trade that Mutant octopus, but with such hight level of disobedience, perhaps its not a good idea. 5 of disobedience its quite a lot of disobedience.

[Lord Windos]

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Well, I have a slight idea about what is that crow. Maybe its is more or less like that crown back in Mt. Sentry, when Valder evolve his Pawniard in Keenglave. Maybe that crown its a alternative evolution item. But I have no idea for what Pokemon can evolve. Maybe one of our Pokemon can evolve though it. At least its what I think.

Also, I have a few offers for that Delta Corsola: The two Kanghaskan I have capture it, a Gligar (with or without the Razor Claw, but I might keep the Claw), Marowak, or Rhyhorn because you can sell him later or trade for good items/Poke.

I was thinking if you are interested in trade that Mutant octopus, but with such hight level of disobedience, perhaps its not a good idea. 5 of disobedience its quite a lot of disobedience.

Not sure how much a Delta Corsola is worth, but I'm partial to trading it for Giga Rhydon, if only to start a trend of Terra collecting and/or trading away Giant Pokemon. If Giga Rhyhorn has Rock Head, then even better, since if Terra actually bothered to keep them they'd be able to use Life Orb without suffering its Recoil (As LO gives Moves Recoil along with + 2 Damage, but Rock Head prevents Recoil outright, canceling out the debuff). If it has Reckless, then I'd still be happy, since Reckless synergies with LO rather destructively, to say the least! + 4 Damage on all Moves, since LO gives Recoil to all of them and Reckless boosts the power of Moves with Recoil by 2 Dice? Yes!

Mutant Octillery.....well, I'd argue you'd need to either get 5 Torchic Teeth from somewhere to brainwash it into miserable submission (Which probably be considered some form of abuse in the Modern Era.....), or essentially go Sword of Damacus on it and brow beat the tencaled monstrosity into Loyalty, which is a different flavor of miserable submission. They're powerful and highly useful, don't get me wrong, but using them for anything but trades as is will just be  asking for it to go on a rampage on you and everything around it. In fact, by the rules of the Pokemon Corebook, anything with 5 Disobedience and less than 8 Loyalty + Happiness will outright abandon you (If I recall correctly) if given the chance, so good luck getting over that stumbling block.

[Spiritmon]

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Well, I have a slight idea about what is that crow. Maybe its is more or less like that crown back in Mt. Sentry, when Valder evolve his Pawniard in Keenglave. Maybe that crown its a alternative evolution item. But I have no idea for what Pokemon can evolve. Maybe one of our Pokemon can evolve though it. At least its what I think.

Also, I have a few offers for that Delta Corsola: The two Kanghaskan I have capture it, a Gligar (with or without the Razor Claw, but I might keep the Claw), Marowak, or Rhyhorn because you can sell him later or trade for good items/Poke.

I was thinking if you are interested in trade that Mutant octopus, but with such hight level of disobedience, perhaps its not a good idea. 5 of disobedience its quite a lot of disobedience.

Not sure how much a Delta Corsola is worth, but I'm partial to trading it for Giga Rhydon, if only to start a trend of Terra collecting and/or trading away Giant Pokemon. If Giga Rhyhorn has Rock Head, then even better, since if Terra actually bothered to keep them they'd be able to use Life Orb without suffering its Recoil (As LO gives Moves Recoil along with + 2 Damage, but Rock Head prevents Recoil outright, canceling out the debuff). If it has Reckless, then I'd still be happy, since Reckless synergies with LO rather destructively, to say the least! + 4 Damage on all Moves, since LO gives Recoil to all of them and Reckless boosts the power of Moves with Recoil by 2 Dice? Yes!

Mutant Octillery.....well, I'd argue you'd need to either get 5 Torchic Teeth from somewhere to brainwash it into miserable submission (Which probably be considered some form of abuse in the Modern Era.....), or essentially go Sword of Damacus on it and brow beat the tencaled monstrosity into Loyalty, which is a different flavor of miserable submission. They're powerful and highly useful, don't get me wrong, but using them for anything but trades as is will just be  asking for it to go on a rampage on you and everything around it. In fact, by the rules of the Pokemon Corebook, anything with 5 Disobedience and less than 8 Loyalty + Happiness will outright abandon you (If I recall correctly) if given the chance, so good luck getting over that stumbling block.

Well, this Rhyhorn of mine indeed have Rock Head, its also a Overgrown Pokemon, and have a surprise of +1 HP. With Terra mounstrous vitality, that Rhyhorn its a strong powerhouse. Here the data of Rhyhorn:

Rhyhorn Data

Overgrown, base HP 7.

Surprise, +1 Vitality.

Happiness 2, Loyalty 0, Disobedience 5. : 0

Ability: Rock Head

Permanent held items embedded in his hide: Hard Stone, Metal Coat, Lamp Post, Road Sign, Railroad Track. He can also be given an additional item.

All the Lamp Post can do is provide a free light source. All the Road Sign and Railroad Track can do is...look good?

Rhyhorn won't be League-legal until you get a medical practitioner to remove at least one of the two useful items.



Here are all the moves you didn't get to see:

Horn Attack, Fury Attack, Bulldoze, Chip Away, Head Charge, Drill Run, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Megahorn, Heavy Slam (300kg), Iron Defense, Iron Tail.



In short, he's a powerhouse, but poor typing and monstrous disobedience that will take a lot of work.
His value in 2017 is about the same as that Druddigon.

Just like the Octopus, Rhyhorn have 5 in disobedience too and 0 in Loyoalty. Maybe then we should just ask professor Mallorn to handle such beast instead. None of us can handle the octopus Pokemon, not even Heart can handle a Pokemon with 5 in disobedience. Still, we might do some research in such beast.

[Spiritmon]

Wait, I have a plan! Something who might benefit both of us @Lord Windos. Gonna discuss the details via PM and tell me what you think.

[Iron]

There's no randomness involved nor overflowing nor hitting-dependency. I don't know where you're getting this all from.

Roar does end the round immediately unless it fails, in which case contingencies are fine. I think I've used U-Turn inconsistently - might be simpler just to say the round ends and kinda nerf the move.

When ya said you'd houserule some stuff for Rampage in this post and rolled for how many times Thrash would hit when a Larvitar used it in the Little Cup.  We haven't really seen Rampage moves much since then as I recall, so I kinda assumed that houserule was still in effect.  :/  In any case, I misread that last statement you just made, so *derp* on my part.  If that's what we'll be going with, then I'll edit my notes accordingly.

So...how do you want to handle Rampage?

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Haven't really used Switcher moves in battle much at all from what I recall.  That Zoroark that used U-turn did end the Round, though it didn't switch for any other pokemon, just used it to gain a little distance from the battlefield (which isn't an effect that's listed for it, obviously).  Haven't really seen Volt Switch at all, either (and I question why the writers made it 2 Power when U-turn is 3 due to being 70+ Power and the moves are the same power in the games.  Yeah, most pokemon that learn U-turn naturally don't get STAB on it and all three of the natural Volt Switch users all get STAB on it, but come one, was that nerf really necessary?), but I might consider teaching it to Emolga depending on how we handle the Switcher effect.  Juliet also knows U-turn, but regardless of how we handle Switcher effects, that's a beneficial move for her if she can use it to bow out of her performance/get away from Dark types ASAP.  Also wouldn't make much sense to end the Round if the Switcher effect doesn't work, for obvious reasons.

Whether you send in a new pokemon right away (even though they can't fight until the next Round, making Switcher moves risky/mean to use before the end of a Round) or the Round ends and then you send in a new pokemon (and whether either side of the battlefield can switch pokemon as normal as well) has a big effect on how beneficial/dangerous the Switcher effect is in Pokerole.

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Better to get the clarification on all of this now since we have Roar, Whirlwind, and Thrash using pokemon at our fingertips, and the mechanics of these moves might very well be put to the test very, very soon.

Ah! I remember that. That was more for dealing with my NPC. I will clarify right now that that's not how PC trainers are expected to use Rampage. They can use it 2 or 3 times at the end of which your Pokemon will become confused.

@PhantomUnderYourDesk does this match your understanding of things like Ally Switch? I've talked to you about it more than anyone.

[Dragonstrike]

@Spiritmon and @Mikaruge108 (mostly listing this for Mika's benefit, though), there's one more restriction in this tournament that I forgot to list.

As this is an official League Battle, the 4 unique moves per pokemon rule is also (probably) in effect.  You're free to use any move the pokemon has learned, but once a pokemon has used four, they're locked into using those 4 for the remainder of the battle.

Of course, Disobedient pokemon might not care about this rule either.

[Spiritmon]

@Spiritmon and @Mikaruge108 (mostly listing this for Mika's benefit, though), there's one more restriction in this tournament that I forgot to list.

As this is an official League Battle, the 4 unique moves per pokemon rule is also (probably) in effect.  You're free to use any move the pokemon has learned, but once a pokemon has used four, they're locked into using those 4 for the remainder of the battle.

Of course, Disobedient pokemon might not care about this rule either.

I will try, but lets see if Old Kangas can obey that rule.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

@Phantom does this match your understanding of things like Ally Switch? I've talked to you about it more than anyone.

Huh? Eh, well, we two've been talking about that sort of thing a while ago, I remember, it's been more on a practical than theoretical/mechanical base because I felt Ally Switch of Helios could be useful for my Double Battles.

From what I noted, that move allows me to switch out anytime during an ongoing Round to replace it with a new Pokemon of mine, but neither can that Pokemon take an Action that Round nor does that end the ongoing Round - scenically that means the new Pokemon is 'at the mercy' of the current foe, but if done right it's possible to outplay an advantage  - for example by sending out my bulky Luxi against a foe relying on massive damage-doing - or defuse a disadvantage - for example by switching in Yena or Purrloin into an offensive Psychic Type.