[Meta thread] Lord Windos' PokeRole Adventure : Celadon City Vandels

[Lord Windos]

Not to mentioned Gaspar can always become Dusk Mane and gain the Prism armor for better defensive skills, and only be trully hit by Dark and Shadow moves.

About Solgaleon Z...I have to think about it. Having another Z-Crystal would be very cool. But right now my char have 7 Will Points. More than enough to summon the power of a Z-Crystal.

You know what? I pay the price. I already have ended the adventure of Arial, and I have no intention in have any future battles (not to mentioned his battle days is over, so no intention in save to much XP). And by the time Arial ever happened, he will problably have his Will Points restored to normal.

Gaspar right now have 107 XP from all the battles he fough and the XP he gain from becoming Solgaleo. 207 original and used 100 to upgrade Teleport.

Gonna use 100 more XP and 5 Will Points to create Solgaleo Z. Always cool have a Z-move who doesnt require become Ultra Necrozma. Is this acceptable @Lord Windos? I could make a scene later informing Arial, or maybe a scene of Gaspar making a Z-Crystal by against his will or something?

Yeap!

You sure? You could keep saving up that XP to steadily increase his bulk and overall POWER instead, like Full Powering his Ability, His Attributes, His Moves, etc.. SSS on demand is a pretty good last resort/bargening chip , granted, but is it worth increasing the time for Gaspar to become a full fledge Legend? I'll leave that for you to decide!

As for permissions, you have it, but only if you're absolutely sure. Once you confirm, they're not take backs now!

Addressing your previous posts.....

- The likelihood of you/Gaspar running into another Solgaleo is low right now, and exponentially lower with an Alt. Universe version of the Solar Leo that merged with the madman's brother, as the 'Nebby' species line mostly resides/lives in Ultra Space/Weird Dimensions , so you'd have to put a lot of time traveling the gap between worlds in order to stumble upon one. Lunala, however.....

- If you want to more or less completely stone wall Alice from finding Arial, just have Solgaleo Teleport you to an Alt. Universe of My Universe, and start up life there. You may end up running into an alt. version of you that way and/or have to deal with the troubles of being a planes walker, but hey, at least they don't have to keep their eyes peeled for a superboss! .....Maybe. Alice don't give up, so I imagine she'd find a way to track our lovable rouge day eventually, but I guarantee you it take her a long time!

- Necro's still pretty much immortal, even in her human form, so the best Arial could do is put her into an even deeper coma. Killing her wouldn't have the slightest impact on Alice's coming after you, though, nor attracting the attention of other elderitch beings from Ultra Space, save for possibly waking up the Necrozma that is sleeping in Alola right now and spending up that timeline of events.

[Spiritmon]

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Not to mentioned Gaspar can always become Dusk Mane and gain the Prism armor for better defensive skills, and only be trully hit by Dark and Shadow moves.

About Solgaleon Z...I have to think about it. Having another Z-Crystal would be very cool. But right now my char have 7 Will Points. More than enough to summon the power of a Z-Crystal.

You know what? I pay the price. I already have ended the adventure of Arial, and I have no intention in have any future battles (not to mentioned his battle days is over, so no intention in save to much XP). And by the time Arial ever happened, he will problably have his Will Points restored to normal.

Gaspar right now have 107 XP from all the battles he fough and the XP he gain from becoming Solgaleo. 207 original and used 100 to upgrade Teleport.

Gonna use 100 more XP and 5 Will Points to create Solgaleo Z. Always cool have a Z-move who doesnt require become Ultra Necrozma. Is this acceptable @Lord Windos? I could make a scene later informing Arial, or maybe a scene of Gaspar making a Z-Crystal by against his will or something?

Yeap!

You sure? You could keep saving up that XP to steadily increase his bulk and overall POWER instead, like Full Powering his Ability, His Attributes, His Moves, etc.. SSS on demand is a pretty good last resort/bargening chip , granted, but is it worth increasing the time for Gaspar to become a full fledge Legend? I'll leave that for you to decide!

As for permissions, you have it, but only if you're absolutely sure. Once you confirm, they're not take backs now!

Addressing your previous posts.....

- The likelihood of you/Gaspar running into another Solgaleo is low right now, and exponentially lower with an Alt. Universe version of the Solar Leo that merged with the madman's brother, as the 'Nebby' species line mostly resides/lives in Ultra Space/Weird Dimensions , so you'd have to put a lot of time traveling the gap between worlds in order to stumble upon one. Lunala, however.....

- If you want to more or less completely stone wall Alice from finding Arial, just have Solgaleo Teleport you to an Alt. Universe of My Universe, and start up life there. You may end up running into an alt. version of you that way and/or have to deal with the troubles of being a planes walker, but hey, at least they don't have to keep their eyes peeled for a superboss! .....Maybe. Alice don't give up, so I imagine she'd find a way to track our lovable rouge day eventually, but I guarantee you it take her a long time!

- Necro's still pretty much immortal, even in her human form, so the best Arial could do is put her into an even deeper coma. Killing her wouldn't have the slightest impact on Alice's coming after you, though, nor attracting the attention of other elderitch beings from Ultra Space, save for possibly waking up the Necrozma that is sleeping in Alola right now and spending up that timeline of events.

Now that you mentioned...I do have enough XP to make his Ability at his Full Power? Like, I make he have trible stab, critical immunity, and all sheganingans its mentioned in its info? I have 107 xp so i might be able to upgrade something.

Wait. Time traveling between worlds? So Gaspar cannot only travel though space, but also though time? This kinda dont be, I dont know...anger Dialga and Palkia maybe? Since they are the god rulers of time and space?

Well, Gaspar do not completely control his ability to travel between worlds, so I may save that thing in case he stomp with Alice again. Still need some training too. Dont want to warp to a universe where Team Rocket rule the world or something.

*sigh* I begin to regret keeping Necrozma alive. She problably going to summon even more tauros shit than ever.

[Dragonstrike]

Now that you mentioned...I do have enough XP to make his Ability at his Full Power? Like, I make he have trible stab, critical immunity, and all sheganingans its mentioned in its info? I have 107 xp so i might be able to upgrade something.

Wait. Time traveling between worlds? So Gaspar cannot only travel though space, but also though time? This kinda dont be, I dont know...anger Dialga and Palkia maybe? Since they are the god rulers of time and space?

Well, Gaspar do not completely control his ability to travel between worlds, so I may save that thing in case he stomp with Alice again. Still need some training too. Dont want to warp to a universe where Team Rocket rule the world or something.

*sigh* I begin to regret keeping Necrozma alive. She problably going to summon even more tauros shit than ever.

I think it depends on the time period of the dimension you're traveling to, as Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma don't really have much power over Time and Space, just the ability to travel to other dimensions.  I think a good comparison would be the AUs in Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse.  One dimension was ultra futuristic, a few were modern, one was a straight up cartoon, another was set during WWII...

Multiverse shenanigans are messy.

There is kinda a canon universe where TR succeeded in their goals already.  That's the Giovanni that successfully created and controlled Mewtwo (including accessing its Mega Evolutions), then went on to found Team Rainbow Rocket and attempt to counquer many places across multiple universes by exploiting the out of control energy left in the wake of Ultra Necrozma's awakening (including recruiting the villainous team leaders from other alternate universes where they were successful in their own goals and had gained control of their respective Legendary pokemon).

Of course, other versions of Team Rocket could have possibly done the same, minus the multiverse shenanigans.



As some additional food for thought, though: Ultra Megalopolis and many of the Ultra Spaces where the Ultra Beasts can be found in the wild are heavily implied to be the remnants of Alola after it was darkened by Necrozma absorbing all the light.  Standard pokemon were not strong enough to survive in the environment, and thus tougher, stronger ones that would come to be known as Ultra Beasts started to thrive in suitable environments.  They were too strong to control, and humans ended up living in fear of the majority of them instead of living alongside them.  It wasn't until after Ultra Necrozma was tamed and the Ultra Recon Squad worked with Lusamine and the Aether Foundation to develop Beast Balls that 'pokemon' training became a part of the darkened Alola's lifestyle again (with Poipole being a common starter choice due to how tame they are compared to most other Ultra Beasts...to start with, anyways...)

And that's just a few universes out of infinitely many.

[Lord Windos]

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Now that you mentioned...I do have enough XP to make his Ability at his Full Power? Like, I make he have trible stab, critical immunity, and all sheganingans its mentioned in its info? I have 107 xp so i might be able to upgrade something.

Wait. Time traveling between worlds? So Gaspar cannot only travel though space, but also though time? This kinda dont be, I dont know...anger Dialga and Palkia maybe? Since they are the god rulers of time and space?

Well, Gaspar do not completely control his ability to travel between worlds, so I may save that thing in case he stomp with Alice again. Still need some training too. Dont want to warp to a universe where Team Rocket rule the world or something.

*sigh* I begin to regret keeping Necrozma alive. She problably going to summon even more tauros shit than ever.

Nope! You need roughly a ~1000 XP or more for that! It will take a LOT of learning for Gaspar to fully BECOME a mighty Solgaleo, and gameplay wise the moment you get an unrestricted/unnerfed Plot Deviced Pokemon is the moment everything but the Biggest Guns stops posing a serious treat to you, unless I find creative ways to limit you/Gaspar in other aspects so that a challenge could be had. Pretty boring for me and you if you could just ROFL stomp on everything without earning that privlage, right?

Smart idea! Ultra Space travel should come naturally to Gaspar, but getting actual practice and comfort in doing it is just a swell idea!

Too late to take back your decision now! Look on the bright side: You have two Legendary Pokemon that could terrorize all but the toughest badasses into doing what you want, or at least having to work extra hard to get at ya! That, and until Necro's wakes up and you get a handle on her personality/reactions, you don't really know how bad it will be, right? Right?

[Spiritmon]

Spoiler

Now that you mentioned...I do have enough XP to make his Ability at his Full Power? Like, I make he have trible stab, critical immunity, and all sheganingans its mentioned in its info? I have 107 xp so i might be able to upgrade something.

Wait. Time traveling between worlds? So Gaspar cannot only travel though space, but also though time? This kinda dont be, I dont know...anger Dialga and Palkia maybe? Since they are the god rulers of time and space?

Well, Gaspar do not completely control his ability to travel between worlds, so I may save that thing in case he stomp with Alice again. Still need some training too. Dont want to warp to a universe where Team Rocket rule the world or something.

*sigh* I begin to regret keeping Necrozma alive. She problably going to summon even more tauros shit than ever.

I think it depends on the time period of the dimension you're traveling to, as Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma don't really have much power over Time and Space, just the ability to travel to other dimensions.  I think a good comparison would be the AUs in Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse.  One was ultra futuristic, a few were modern, one was a straight up cartoon, another was set during WWII...

Multiverse shenanigans are messy.

There is kinda a canon universe where TR succeeded in their goals already.  That's the Giovanni that successfully created and controlled Mewtwo (including accessing its Mega Evolutions), then went on to found Team Rainbow Rocket and attempt to counquer many places across multiple universes by exploiting the out of control energy left in the wake of Ultra Necrozma's awakening (including recruiting the villainous team leaders from other alternate universes where they were successful in their own goals and had gained control of their respective Legendary pokemon).

Of course, other versions of Team Rocket could have possibly done the same, minus the multiverse shenanigans.


As some additional food for thought, though: Ultra Megalopolis and many of the Ultra Spaces where the Ultra Beasts can be found in the wild are the remnants of Alola after it was darkened by Necrozma absorbing all the light.  Standard pokemon were not strong enough to survive in the environment, and thus tougher, stronger ones that would be come to be known as Ultra Beasts started to thrive in suitable environments.  They were too strong to control, and humans ended up living in fear of the majority of them instead of living alongside them.  It wasn't until after Ultra Necrozma was tamed and the Ultra Recon Squad worked with Lusamine and the Aether Foundation to develop Beast Balls that 'pokemon' training became a part of the darkened Alola's lifestyle again (with Poipole being a common starter choice due to how tame they are compared to most other Ultra Beasts...to start with, anyways...)

And that's just a few universes out of infinitely many.

Nope! You need roughly a ~1000 XP or more for that! It will take a LOT of learning for Gaspar to fully BECOME a mighty Solgaleo, and gameplay wise the moment you get an unrestricted/unnerfed Plot Deviced Pokemon is the moment everything but the Biggest Guns stops posing a serious treat to you, unless I find creative ways to limit you/Gaspar in other aspects so that a challenge could be had. Pretty boring for me and you if you could just ROFL stomp on everything without earning that privlage, right?

Smart idea! Ultra Space travel should come naturally to Gaspar, but getting actual practice and comfort in doing it is just a swell idea!

Too late to take back your decision now! Look on the bright side: You have two Legendary Pokemon that could terrorize all but the toughest badasses into doing what you want, or at least having to work extra hard to get at ya! That, and until Necro's wakes up and you get a handle on her personality/reactions, you don't really know how bad it will be, right? Right?

Man, time travel is complicated. I just hope someday Arial will be able to travel to a Steampunk version of pokemon world. Imagined a world at such style with Industrial style of steam and all with pokemon with such style. This open possibilities of use him as plot device in future campaighs of mine. Who knows? The universe is infinity.

And there is other universes. There is Ash universe (who like I like to call: The failed Red), the mystery Dungeon timeline, The universe where the AZ never uses the Ultimate Weapon, and thus never created the Mega Stones. 

So, Lusamine its not a completely Hollow creature. To be honest, I was so much disapointed already with Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon (witch a I need to mentioned they havent so much things to be called Ultra since they dont add to much New Pokemon, save for Ultra Necrozma), so I dont even cared in buy it or read anything about the story. I prefer fangames or Pokemon roleplay because the plots is way better and the pokemon side is way more explored. Pokemon is the true protagonists, not the humans.

Its fair. But 1000 XP its something I will never able to get ever. Its already a miracle any pokemon of mine to ever go to the house of the hundred. 

Maybe I make some training sheganingas of Arial when everything is more calm, and he be able to travel from universe to another. Arial and Gaspar also need to learn how to travel to one universe, and then return to their origin universe. 

I hope so. Still curious to see how Kelly and companny will handle such situation. But serious you had to put Gaspar land to a place filled with people? Shouldnt be in the middle of the desert/plain place with only pokemon around, where the chance of humans see a fucking metal lion see was less likely to happen?

[Lord Windos]

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Its fair. But 1000 XP its something I will never able to get ever. Its already a miracle any pokemon of mine to ever go to the house of the hundred. 

Maybe I make some training sheganingas of Arial when everything is more calm, and he be able to travel from universe to another. Arial and Gaspar also need to learn how to travel to one universe, and then return to their origin universe. 

I hope so. Still curious to see how Kelly and companny will handle such situation. But serious you had to put Gaspar land to a place filled with people? Shouldnt be in the middle of the desert/plain place with only pokemon around, where the chance of humans see a fucking metal lion see was less likely to happen?

Ixy nay on debating the merits of the main games/anime nay, mate! I believe we've had enough vitriol spewed about that, please!

Who knows? You might achieve that someday, if we keep egging things on....

Grinding in another universe/going on adventures in them could work, but it could also backfire if you/Gaspar 'land' in a 'bad neighborhood', so to speak.

Hehehe! I'll get to that eventually, but I don't think Arial really has much to worry, tbh.

[Spiritmon]

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Ixy nay on debating the merits of the main games/anime nay, mate! I believe we've had enough vitriol spewed about that, please!

Who knows? You might achieve that someday, if we keep egging things on....

Grinding in another universe/going on adventures in them could work, but it could also backfire if you/Gaspar 'land' in a 'bad neighborhood', so to speak.

Hehehe! I'll get to that eventually, but I don't think Arial really has much to worry, tbh.

Like a universe where Viktor failed to stop Curie in create a literal Nuclear Armageddon with his Urayne Final Form, and literally transforming all Tandor Region (and problably the rest of the world) in a literal post-apocalipse world? If Urayne could corrupt a Steel Legendary pokemon, imagine what he could do with Pokemon without that resistance.

[Lord Windos]

Like a universe where Viktor failed to stop Curie in create a literal Nuclear Armageddon with his Urayne Final Form, and literally transforming all Tandor Region (and problably the rest of the world) in a literal post-apocalipse world? If Urayne could corrupt a Steel Legendary pokemon, imagine what he could do with Pokemon without that resistance.

Yup yup! Going there is a one way ticket to Bad Times ® , mate! Imagine, a whole world of Corrupted Nuclear Pokemon, including Corrupted Legendaries! and who knows what else!, all out for EVERYTHING'S BLOOD! Fun for the whole family, am I right?

[Dragonstrike]

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Man, time travel is complicated. I just hope someday Arial will be able to travel to a Steampunk version of pokemon world. Imagined a world at such style with Industrial style of steam and all with pokemon with such style. This open possibilities of use him as plot device in future campaighs of mine. Who knows? The universe is infinity.

And there is other universes. There is Ash universe (who like I like to call: The failed Red), the mystery Dungeon timeline, The universe where the AZ never uses the Ultimate Weapon, and thus never created the Mega Stones. 

So, Lusamine its not a completely Hollow creature. To be honest, I was so much disapointed already with Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon (witch a I need to mentioned they havent so much things to be called Ultra since they dont add to much New Pokemon, save for Ultra Necrozma), so I dont even cared in buy it or read anything about the story. I prefer fangames or Pokemon roleplay because the plots is way better and the pokemon side is way more explored. Pokemon is the true protagonists, not the humans.

Both time travel and multiverses get complex once you start mixing the events of one thing with another, no matter what medium you're talking about.  One thing's for certain with both, though: they're dangerous things to toy with, particularly when in the wrong hands.

Lusamine never was a completely hollow creature, in all honesty.  Her character just developed in a far different way in USUM than it did in SM.  I could talk more about the differences of USUM's story to SM's, but I'll leave it at that for now per Windos's request.

[Spiritmon]

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Like a universe where Viktor failed to stop Curie in create a literal Nuclear Armageddon with his Urayne Final Form, and literally transforming all Tandor Region (and problably the rest of the world) in a literal post-apocalipse world? If Urayne could corrupt a Steel Legendary pokemon, imagine what he could do with Pokemon without that resistance.

Yup yup! Going there is a one way ticket to Bad Times ® , mate! Imagine, a whole world of Corrupted Nuclear Pokemon, including Corrupted Legendaries! and who knows what else!, all out for EVERYTHING'S BLOOD! Fun for the whole family, am I right?

I kinda tried to explore such things in another thread of mine, Nuclear Survive or something, where it was a style of choose your own adventure. Didnt get enough inspiration to continue such thread so its pratically dead by now, like the rest of the nuclear universe after Curie. 

Dont need to tell twice mate. A no-nuclear Ultra Necrozma is already terrifying. Now a Nuclear version? Nope. Gonna avoid at all cost travel to such universe.