[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Dragonstrike]

@Iron, I said Starmie and Ditto were the two pokemon Nathan was likely to use in a battle with the Marowak. Gallade would be on standby.

[Iron]

@Iron, I said Starmie and Ditto were the two pokemon Nathan was likely to use in a battle with the Marowak.  Gallade would be on standby.

Gotcha. Same roll will apply.

[Lord Windos]

Now then, while I know that it's Terra's duty to keep everyone safe and take extraordinarily good care of Shiva in the means of 'nothing happens to her, or else he'll be fed to Apsis', it does have a slightly bitter aftertaste in this particular case: Doesn't Terra trust her (yet?) enough to let her handle things directly if that's what she desires even if it comes with a risk? It looks to like that's the case, which is...saddening, to be very honest. ( ._.) I wish to work towards him trusting her and him as the tough and experienced fighter to acknowledge her skills in the long shot, even if these don't lie in the field of fighting especially.

Honestly, I kinda agree with Phantom on this one, Windos.  It's nice that Terra is taking the assignment from Ventus seriously and all, but...it does feel like Terra is overdoing it a little.  With regards to the entire group, though, imo.  Our characters are all fairly capable, after all.  Taking your job a little too seriously is something that is possible.

Of course, imo, being in the middle of a war zone is probably a good demonstration of just how capable our characters are...or aren't, if worst comes to worst.

I agree with Phantom in this case Windos. Shiva be feeling overshadowed by our characters, and this battlefield, despite dangerous, its her chance to prove herself she can be strong too. I think she is strong, but its a test for herself. Go get them Phantom :3

Well, isn't this nice, ganging up on me like so.....

Look, it isn't a matter whether or not Terra does or does not trust or respect the overall strength and capability of the group, for that is an entirely mute point since he does. Heart has proved himself from their excrusion to the Skull Ruins and the Electabuzz/Rhydon, Nathan has with the later two, and Shiva with Rhydon and personally accounts from Ven, so that ain't the issue here. Heck, their 'battle' against Siekamater is antecedent evidence enough that everyone can take care of themselves. 

No, the fact of the matter is that no matter how exceptional our characters are, the group is in the middle of a literal bloody Lethal warzone, with the fighters of it being King's Era men/Pokemon. The very same kinds of people and Pokemon Nathan had extensively warned were extremely skilled, powerful and capable in their own right + potentially DANGEROUS to the group, and his own personal interactions/observation with/or them has demonstrated how FIERCE and RELENTLESS in battles. 

Unlike with Rhydon, some big BAD singular/small group of threats, or arguably MEW or Siekamater, the group isn't fighting/fleeing/involved with  some wild beast , but an organized military force that has little conniptions in cutting down their enemies or anyone else that gets in their way. If one of the group members gets serious injured or downed in their Encounters, their is a real chance of that harm being compounded by the CHAOS of the whole scene, and that's not accounting for a whole slew of other factors. And Terra is fully and painfully aware of all of that[/i].

With all that in mind, Terra's own current and potential reactions are not only reasonable, but actually downplayed , as if I was fully playing him IC , he'd personally hunt down every single member of the group + Spira and fight tooth and nail in getting them out of the warzone safely. Fighting a Strong Wild Pokemon, arguably a singular Legendary , or the scattered forces of Almanac is one thing, as with the first and third teamwork or choosing the right Pokemon can take them down relatively painlessly, while with Legends you can always flee or find a puzzle solution. Within the context of in universe, those are dangerous situations, but 'reasonably' so that my character wouldn't mind so much leaving things to them and/or help them without worrying/fretting over their safety/well being. 

In this Scene, where the group is trapped in the King's Era in, and I can not stress this enough, a literal bloody, Lethal warzone, where Healing Supplies and resources are at a premium, and any given Encounter could royally screw over our characters if we aren't careful or lucky? Terra has every reason to be HIGHLY worried about the group, and thus is motivated to take his duty/job more seriously than ever, ESPECIALLY the part about ensuring that his boss' girlfriend isn't squirty murdered by anything. Given his nature is already plain, no-nonsense, and serious..... that's saying something about how he's assessing the situation.

In sum: Terra trust and respects everyone's battle prowess, and is perfectly fine/not bothered too much about them taking on certain threats within certain contexts, but he's still rightfully worried about them in this situation due to it being a warzone, and therefore wants to do everything in his power to ensure their well being and safety. You all might say he's overdoing it or taking his job too seriously, but when it is explicitly keeping the group protected and alive to the full extent of his ability (within reason), how could he not?

[Spiritmon]

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Now then, while I know that it's Terra's duty to keep everyone safe and take extraordinarily good care of Shiva in the means of 'nothing happens to her, or else he'll be fed to Apsis', it does have a slightly bitter aftertaste in this particular case: Doesn't Terra trust her (yet?) enough to let her handle things directly if that's what she desires even if it comes with a risk? It looks to like that's the case, which is...saddening, to be very honest. ( ._.) I wish to work towards him trusting her and him as the tough and experienced fighter to acknowledge her skills in the long shot, even if these don't lie in the field of fighting especially.

Honestly, I kinda agree with Phantom on this one, Windos.  It's nice that Terra is taking the assignment from Ventus seriously and all, but...it does feel like Terra is overdoing it a little.  With regards to the entire group, though, imo.  Our characters are all fairly capable, after all.  Taking your job a little too seriously is something that is possible.

Of course, imo, being in the middle of a war zone is probably a good demonstration of just how capable our characters are...or aren't, if worst comes to worst.

I agree with Phantom in this case Windos. Shiva be feeling overshadowed by our characters, and this battlefield, despite dangerous, its her chance to prove herself she can be strong too. I think she is strong, but its a test for herself. Go get them Phantom :3

Well, isn't this nice, ganging up on me like so.....

Look, it isn't a matter whether or not Terra does or does not trust or respect the overall strength and capability of the group, for that is an entirely mute point since he does. Heart has proved himself from their excrusion to the Skull Ruins and the Electabuzz/Rhydon, Nathan has with the later two, and Shiva with Rhydon and personally accounts from Ven, so that ain't the issue here. Heck, their 'battle' against Siekamater is antecedent evidence enough that everyone can take care of themselves. 

No, the fact of the matter is that no matter how exceptional our characters are, the group is in the middle of a literal bloody Lethal warzone, with the fighters of it being King's Era men/Pokemon. The very same kinds of people and Pokemon Nathan had extensively warned were extremely skilled, powerful and capable in their own right + potentially DANGEROUS to the group, and his own personal interactions/observation with/or them has demonstrated how FIERCE and RELENTLESS in battles. 

Unlike with Rhydon, some big BAD singular/small group of threats, or arguably MEW or Siekamater, the group isn't fighting/fleeing/involved with  some wild beast , but an organized military force that has little conniptions in cutting down their enemies or anyone else that gets in their way. If one of the group members gets serious injured or downed in their Encounters, their is a real chance of that harm being compounded by the CHAOS of the whole scene, and that's not accounting for a whole slew of other factors. And Terra is fully and painfully aware of all of that[/i].

With all that in mind, Terra's own current and potential reactions are not only reasonable, but actually downplayed , as if I was fully playing him IC , he'd personally hunt down every single member of the group + Spira and fight tooth and nail in getting them out of the warzone safely. Fighting a Strong Wild Pokemon, arguably a singular Legendary , or the scattered forces of Almanac is one thing, as with the first and third teamwork or choosing the right Pokemon can take them down relatively painlessly, while with Legends you can always flee or find a puzzle solution. Within the context of in universe, those are dangerous situations, but 'reasonably' so that my character wouldn't mind so much leaving things to them and/or help them without worrying/fretting over their safety/well being. 

In this Scene, where the group is trapped in the King's Era in, and I can not stress this enough, a literal bloody, Lethal warzone, where Healing Supplies and resources are at a premium, and any given Encounter could royally screw over our characters if we aren't careful or lucky? Terra has every reason to be HIGHLY worried about the group, and thus is motivated to take his duty/job more seriously than ever, ESPECIALLY the part about ensuring that his boss' girlfriend isn't squirty murdered by anything. Given his nature is already plain, no-nonsense, and serious..... that's saying something about how he's assessing the situation.

In sum: Terra trust and respects everyone's battle prowess, and is perfectly fine/not bothered too much about them taking on certain threats within certain contexts, but he's still rightfully worried about them in this situation due to it being a warzone, and therefore wants to do everything in his power to ensure their well being and safety. You all might say he's overdoing it or taking his job too seriously, but when it is explicitly keeping the group protected and alive to the full extent of his ability (within reason), how could he not?

Well, when you put that way...its indeed a deadly dangerous situation. In a way, engaging in any of those encounters in such lethal battlefield could mean lethal wounds or even death. In our era, we would might be have dangerous problems to deal such as Almanac, or wild pokemon. Maybe it would be more wise be cautious. Terra is called to be our guardian and protector, and in such place as the King Era, he have than enough reasons to do that.

But if Phantom is confident she can deal with a soldier even if there is a chance of lethal moves, than lets have hope. But if things get problematic, its better run and live another day. I will be also be careful in my battle against Hitmonlee. I was thinking in bring Rose or Typhon to the battle, but with such powerfull fighting-type moves that Hitmonlee possess, even neutral damage is dangerous so better have pokemon capable of dealing damage against him and immunity against most of his moves.

[Spiritmon]

Also @Iron, Viktor is equipped with Leftlovers instead of Miracle Seed. And Golett is equipped with the Luck Egg.

[Dragonstrike]

A little tired still from last night's TRPG shenanigans, but I'm feelin' good regardless and ready to continue with Skull Ruins again!

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

(...) In sum: Terra trust and respects everyone's battle prowess, and is perfectly fine/not bothered too much about them taking on certain threats within certain contexts, but he's still rightfully worried about them in this situation due to it being a warzone, and therefore wants to do everything in his power to ensure their well being and safety. You all might say he's overdoing it or taking his job too seriously, but when it is explicitly keeping the group protected and alive to the full extent of his ability (within reason), how could he not?

Well, my dear, if you put it that way - then you're probably right, given that this is indeed a warzone where natives are fighting the King's soldiers it does feel rather reasoned for Terra to take his duty in keeping everyone safe and sound that serious that it may border to 'too serious' if I'm looking at things from my point of view. Maybe it just hit a nerve of mine that he'd go that far to be mad at Shiva for something she wants to do? It's still having a slightly bitter aftertaste to swallow, but since you're ensuring that he has faith in her capabilty and skills that's something that lessens this aftertaste to a good degree. To me it just feels like barely anything of that is seen! Maybe solely Terra and Shiva engaging in a meaningful Encounter of some sort together could help on that, one where she could soft-proof herself towards him as the tough and fierce battler escpecially.
EDIT: Or, now that I think about it, how Genie allowed her to take a flight on her back after their first playdate when she actually does only allow people she considers worthy of such a thing speaks a lot for itself/for Shiva already. ^^

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Huh, so the mounts of my Encounter can engage in this battle as well? Now that's cool, but I rather not want to imagine what would occur if my Rapidash would end up defeated. Though this arises a question from my side I'd like to have answered by GM please: Does this indeed mean that I can give orders or small commands to my horse in the means of "Use *name of an attack here*" or "Dodge" as long as it's not a Brawl Move? Would it obey me at all in this particular situation (yes, normally Rapidash has Disobediance, but that's why I state in this particular situation), and would it use my Stats or has it its own pool?

Raphael's orders are set in my mind and I can type them up already, but is it alright if I wait with posting them until you've clarified this to me to have everything in one go?

[Dragonstrike]

Notable observation: the fact that Shiva is even able to ride this Rapidash at all without getting Burned by the fiery mane suggests that the horse has been trained to not mind just any old person riding it (which probably translates to having lower Disobedience. Or none at all). A more Disobedient Rapidash would burn anyone they didn't trust without a second thought.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

You dare calling Shiva an old person, she's only 19 :o

Yes, I realized that as well, but that may not automatically mean that it takes commands or orders from whoever mounts it. They're the horses of King Sarimanok's soldiers after all, and Shiva's a stranger.

[Dragonstrike]

Yes, I realized that as well, but that may not automatically mean that it takes commands or orders from whoever mounts it. They're the horses of King Sarimanok's soldiers after all, and Shiva's a stranger.

Well trained horses don't usually care who ride them.  If used for the purpose of transport in any fashion of a constantly changing variety of people, it's all but a requirement, too.  If these horses burn/injure people they don't trust, they're not suitable mounts in a war.

I think the main caveat here is you probably don't know which higher level moves the Rapidash might have unless Iron tells you.