[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Dragonstrike]

On to other things, like Iron said I suppose we both got what we wanted out of this: Terra defended Cosh successfully until they surrendered and freed him of his deal, and Nathan got his revenge against Cosh/brought him to task and JUSTICE for all the ill deeds he's committed. Hopefully your as happy with things as I am....? I imagine Nathan's not going to be too well disposed towards Terra for a long time for the stunt he tried to pull, though, but I imagine that feeling will be somewhat mutual between our charas, and we'll work things out eventually.

I'm typing up a response now.

[Spiritmon]

Nathan would have been dead a hundred times over without all four of you. If you don't understand that, it's on you.

Hit. Points. Aren't. Everything.

That, I agree with wholeheartedly. 

Even though what those without a big name Artifact was limited, the fight against the Clones definitely mattered too, and you were definitely able to make some dents in that.

Plus, even a hyper offensive pokemon team needs a little support to work properly, after all.  Any team is only as good as its overall strategies, and pure offense isn't usually a good strategy in the long term.

Easy for you to say. You was one of the ones who get a artefact. And one of the best I need to say. Even Terra get a Legendary Pokemon.

The main point is, if there was the best moment to Moltres finally born would be in this final battle against our final enemy. And now it's gonna be useless when he hatch.

Where I would use Moltres inside a Diceless campaign? A Ratata? You three get artefacts. And Windos get a Legendary. And mine didn't even hatch.

This is kinda salt in the wound with the sword problem back there: "You could have get the sword, but you are not Nathan who is the main character and you didn't had enough XP to win the bide."

*Sigh* All the battles. Everything build...everything throw to a trash can.

[Dragonstrike]

Easy for you to say. You was one of the ones who get a artefact. And one of the best I need to say. Even Terra get a Legendary Pokemon.

The main point is, if there was the best moment to Moltres finally born would be in this final battle against our final enemy. And now it's gonna be useless when he hatch.

Where I would use Moltres inside a Diceless campaign? A Ratata? You three get artefacts. And Windos get a Legendary. And mine didn't even hatch.

This is kinda salt in the wound with the sword problem back there: "You could have get the sword, but you are not Nathan who is the main character and you didn't had enough XP to win the bide."

*Sigh* All the battles. Everything build...everything throw to a trash can.

The Frozen Roar's pretty cool too, ya know.  And it certainly came in handy while we were fighting the Clones.  You don't want to fight something, and it isn't a Legendary?  You have an easy solution to that now.  The Ability to automatically Flinch Legendaries in the right conditions is pretty useful too.  It's a very, very powerful item, basically giving you the intimidating presence of a PD character.

Hey, once that Moltres hatches, there's still a chance they'll be able to help out Heart with his own backstory stuff.  That'd be pretty awesome, right?  And this campaign isn't quite over and completely diceless yet either.

Nobody ever officially said Nathan was the main character.  It just so happens that there's a LOT more focus on things relating to him because he has more of a history with the region itself due to it being his home.  I did specifically design him with a few 'pokemon main character' tropes in mind, though...

[Dragonstrike]

List of our pokemon that can learn CUT (to the best of my memory):

Nathan

Primal Bulbasaur
Charizard
Sandshrew
Delta Parasect
Dragonite*
Furret
Anorith
Primal Tropius
Absol
Metang
Rampardos*
Vespiquen
Gallade
Servine
Zorua
Emolga
Galvantula
Dedenne
Sceptile

Shiva

Gloom
Kabutops*
Chikorita
Furret
All Eevee and their evolutions
Zigzagoon
Tropius
Purrloin
Petilil
Delphox
Pangoro
Meowstic
Klefki

Terra

Meowth
Breloom
Deoxys Clone
Zorua
Diggersby

Heart

Nidorina
Nidorino
Meowth
Delta Steelix
Heracross
Lairon
Kecleon
Metang
Infernape
Watchog
Crustle
Ferrothorn* (I think it still has yet to be traded or anything...)
Eelektross*
Fraxure
Doublade
Trevenant

Spira

Nincada and Shedinja
Drifblim
Archen*

*The pokemon must be restored and/or evolved before it can learn the move

Guess this means we also need the details on the move's power and effects now, don't we?

Also, making this list, I realized something...there's no Cut HM in Uranium. So there's absolutely no data on the wiki concerning which Tandorian pokemon can learn the move. *shrug*

[Spiritmon]

I had some time to think and calm down...And I want to say a few things. I think I should put the cards above the table.
@Iron. @Dragonstrike.
My previous behavior past night over Deoxys Prime ending was inexcusable. I felt angry and disappointed for lot of reasons. And I think I should say already, instead of just...keep to myself and damage the fun of everyone.

One of the main reasons was...the feeling that the ending was some kind of punishment. That Dragonstrike had played the campaign without entering in conflict and been resolute in most decisions. That I had less important because of my previous mistakes in the campaign, and this was my punishment to be a side character in his story.

I also felt...angry and disappointed with you Iron, because I feel like this whole battle was to only glorified your preference for Dragonstrike character, since he was the only one to manage to deal damage against Deoxys. And we only serve as side characters. I think all the players should be treated as equals both in reward moments as long in the punish moments. I felt like that in this whole battle. I know this is not the truth, but unfortunately that the impression you leave yesterday to me.

I was...so much angry and disappointed that I think...you would give the sword to Nathan at the very beginning. That even winning the XP bide, he would be somehow be choose to be the main character...Or get the sword anyway. 

I also feel like...Someone putting salt in the wound about the whole Sword Crisis. I couldn't shake that in my mind: "It could be me or Windos there. If I had saved enough XP, I could have get the Sword, and share the glory of the battle of Deoxys with everyone...But instead I was use as a side character into some bad shonen anime. I made no difference, and was only serve to cement Nathan glorious weather."

I had this feeling of being exclude and left out, and to feel get my hyped get betrayed. I had imagined we all fighting together as equals against Deoxys. Something that according to the previous posts, the Deoxys coming was being planned for more or less 3 years...And in the end, I felt all the hype betrayed, because I feel most of us barely make importance. And the times of Role-playing and building Heart backstory, was all for nothing. That I only serve as a staircase to Nathan reach the heaven of honors. And I see reasons for think that:

Nathan Ralts had a vision of Deoxys coming. Nathan being the person to have the connection with Mesprit. Being the first one to get a Delta Pokemon. And...be the person to wield the sword and deliver the final blow against Deoxys.

All these emotions boiled inside of me. I get angry a bit to Dragonstrike...but I get more annoyed, furious and angry at you Iron. That you as the GM, had to treat everyone equally: Me, Windos, Mika, Phantom and Dragon. I onkn your reasons....But past night I thought more with the emotion instead of reason.

And for last...That everyone get amazing items from this whole Skull Ruins scenario. Mika, Phantom and Nathan get artefacts. Windos get a Genesect. While I get the Frozen Roar, I feel that compare to everyone gifts, my character get the most less important item, instead of a artefact or a Legendary Pokemon, and that spoiled most of my spirit of fun (no pun intended). And this ending had kinda damage my enthusiasm of making good roleplRole-p posts like I do. Feeling pointless in do it.

To the point of almost quit the campaign...Yeah I had though that for a moment. That's why I asked about taking a break from all this to cool down, and decide my course of action....

For all these reasons and others, I want to apologise to you two, Dragonstrike and Iron. I act irrationally to just let those emotions get out of control and explode the way I did past night. As much I hadn't like the ending of the building of Deoxys final battle, and Dragonstrike get most of the honors, this didn't justify the way I act yesterday, with angry and annoyance towards you Iron and you Dragonstrike. I should have just accepted the fact you are the GM Iron, and your decisions is final. The decision of favor more a character is a final decision of you. 

I also want to apologise to you Dragonstrike. I act harsh with you, and for I get resented towards you, who doesn't have any fault on this. I let the past bad blood between us get the best on me, and even without me wanting, I get mad and angry at you too.

I recognize the mistakes I did...and I sorry to all players and GM for the way I behave...

Because of that, and others reasons, I will abstain from the decision of holding the Hauberk. I would lie if I say I don't desire Cosh Artefact...but I think myself don't deserve vote or hold the item after the whole Sword Crisis and the explosion yesterday.

I also want to have a break after everything, to put in order my mind and emotions, to not get in the way of everyone fun. My vote about the Hauberk thing is void, for the reasons I already stated.

Is for wanting the Hauberk that I think I should not carry...I okay with Windos holding the Hauberk, for he be the one to defend Cosh, and give the guy a second chance. Along with the fact he help stop conflicts in the past, so he deserves that honor more than me...And I not using reverse physicology like some people might think, but I been frankly and honest with every word I saying right now...

*SIGH* I gonna take a break for real this time...Gonna go to my college and then finally watch the Joker movie with some friends of mine. To put my mind, spirit and heart to rest.

Again...sorry about...everything.

[Iron]

You could also think about the Hauberk decision when you get back from your break.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Eh, guess I missed all of that drama concerning whether Cosh shall be put behind bars now or not due to me sleeping the night away, but I'm actually glad I did. Me and Shiva agree that he deserves a second chance, but none of us is the type of person who'd adamantly fight for that aka to have things their way.

Though, @Iron, I wanted to ask Cosh something before he'd leave or is brought away - can we assume that Shiva asks for approval from the League Representatives and pulls him away for a short time? I'd send it to you via PrivateMessage tough (once I update-read and posted in GameThread, that is), as it's something that none of the other charas and players need to know, nor does it affect them in a way.

EDIT: Ah, and there are quite a lot of things I want Shiva to do before she's feeling read to face the E4, so you better be prepared for that. It can all gladly be handled diceless though.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Ah, and I still feel that NONE of us is the main character, nor is anyone of us more important than the other regardless what they have done or not done, and we're all EQUALLY important as characters and players. (҂ `з´ )

[Iron]

Though, @Iron, I wanted to ask Cosh something before he'd leave or is brought away - can we assume that Shiva asks for approval from the League Representatives and pulls him away for a short time? I'd send it to you via PrivateMessage tough (once I update-read and posted in GameThread, that is), as it's something that none of the other charas and players need to know, nor does it affect them in a way.

That's against procedure but you're confident you can get away with it by pulling your hero status.

[Lord Windos]

Since I'm going to be busy until later in the evening, I'll just give out Terra's opinion on what to do with Cosh's Artifact: Leave it to them, or if that's not possible, store it away in the Leagues vaults for future need. He's adamant about this, as he feels that the Scimitar has completely earned it due to their actions in and out of the Skull Ruins, despite their misbegotten deeds and dubious morality, and that giving it to another party member is tantamount to stealing and/or plundering it from them and therefore distasteful to him. He also has the opinion the rest of the Artifacts should probably go to the League eventually at some point, but acknowledges the group should hold on to them for a while yet, just in case anything that requires their use (or would greatly help out) in a situation. Trouble seems to be drawn to the group like Combee to Princess, and the rammification of defeating DP and the aftermath thereafter hasn't even begun fully playing out, after all, so it doesn't hurt to practice a measure of precaution for the time being.